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Mon, 07 January 2019 08:44  |
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Matt Colie
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First Questions for the community:
If you replaced the carpet in your coach, did you go back to carpet?
If yes, what did you put back and how?
And are you happy with it?
If you put in a hard surface floor,
What did you use?
And are you happy with it?
We have decided to finally remove the snag carpet in the Chaumière. It is all beat down, even after cleaning it does not come back up (and my pouring a pint of power steering fluid into it did not help it at all).
Thank you
Matt
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| Re: [GMCnet] Ripping out the Shag.. Questions? [message #339972 is a reply to message #339970] |
Mon, 07 January 2019 08:58  |
Will Albers
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Well, i put down floating vinyl. I'm so so happy with it. The temperature
variations cause significant movement that causes small gaps. The two most
noticeable are as you walk in =) I'd purchase adhesive press together vs
snap together if i were to do it again. Other than that its been a blessing
for cleaning up messes.
I plan to use normal home carpet for the cockpit. Remove as one piece, give
to the local carpet shop to cut you a new one, and re-install.
-Will
On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 9:45 AM Matt Colie wrote:
> First Questions for the community:
> If you replaced the carpet in your coach, did you go back to carpet?
> If yes, what did you put back and how?
> And are you happy with it?
>
> If you put in a hard surface floor,
> What did you use?
> And are you happy with it?
>
> We have decided to finally remove the snag carpet in the Chaumière. It is
> all beat down, even after cleaning it does not come back up (and my
> pouring a pint of power steering fluid into it did not help it at all).
>
> Thank you
>
> Matt
>
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> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: Ripping out the Shag.. Questions? [message #339973 is a reply to message #339970] |
Mon, 07 January 2019 09:29 |
Carl S.
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Matt,
The PO installed teak parquet flooring in our coach:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g3402-wood-flooring-installation.html
I'm reasonably happy with it, but it requires a bit more maintenance than I would have liked.. I have sanded it down and refinished it with Minwax Wipe-On Polyurethane, but it doesn't hold up well to tracked in dirt. I'm not sure anything would.
I recently saw an ad for "Rejuvenate" floor finish and picked up a bottle of that, along with their cleaner. So far, the results have been good.
We have small throw rugs covering most of it which makes cleaning easy. Just take the rugs out and vacuum them and sweep and wipe down the wood floor.
Bruce also did the cockpit and steps in a cut pile carpet, and it looks good.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: Ripping out the Shag.. Questions? [message #339989 is a reply to message #339970] |
Mon, 07 January 2019 12:21 |
kstockwell
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I pulled the carpet, would never put it back in.
I put in floating cork floor. I'm not sure I picked a good underlayment (I might pull it when I redo my seating arrangement). I was worried about moisture so I go this stuff that lets moisture go up and out, but not down.. (I got it at Home Depot, it was basically red plastic with styrofoam beads stuck to it)
The floor has a lot of give because of it and it was messy. Just plastic would have been fine.
I love the cork: looks good, is soft, is warm (like carpet) is easy to clean.
I also would leave the step alone, I pulled carpet off the lower step. Took a lot more work to put flooring on it, do what Justin did above. Somewhere on the photo album I tracked my progress. Also, if I redo it I might choose something different for the entryway, 1' or so of tile, or plank flooring...
Pulling the carpeting was SO satisfying.
Cheers
kelly
1978 Kingsley
Putney VT
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| Re: Ripping out the Shag.. Questions? [message #339992 is a reply to message #339989] |
Mon, 07 January 2019 12:42 |
77Royale
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First thing I did after reinsulating and putting a new ceiling in the coach was flooring. After pulling out 5000 staples that "clean" carpet was nasty when you flipped it over. First thing the boss said after the carpet was gone was how much better the coach smelled inside. I probably vacuumed up 4 cups of sand as well.
I went with Traffic Master Hickory from the Depot. My spreadsheet says 125 bucks, so I must have bought 5 boxes. (26 foot coach). and I had some left over. I did up to the first step and then used a carpet rem that I had been saving for 10 years for "a project". which fit the cockpit and hatch cover. Also the dog has some grip on the carpet and she likes it up there.
I did put a thinner underlayment pad down first, then the floating click in flooring. Im very happy with it. The on board vaccuum gets it all clean in about 5 mins. With little ones and a dog coming and going its been very very easy to take care of. We have a few small area rugs which are easy enough to shake out if they get sandy.
I trimmed it all in with 1/4 round. Its been a very nice upgrade and I dont think I would go back to carpet.
Yes, the floor is a bit colder to the feet. That's about the only downside.
77 Royale, Rear Dry Bath. 403, 3.55 Final Drive, Lenzi goodies, Patterson carb and dizzy.
Mid Michigan
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| Re: [GMCnet] Ripping out the Shag.. Questions? [message #339997 is a reply to message #339992] |
Mon, 07 January 2019 13:16 |
Olly Schmidt
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On 07.01.19 19:42, Wayne Rogewski wrote:
> Yes, the floor is a bit colder to the feet. That's about the only downside.
That's why I got some bathroom rags to throw on my tiles. Great
addition, and you can easily throw them in the washer. SWMBO and I love
them.
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| Re: Ripping out the Shag.. Questions? [message #339998 is a reply to message #339970] |
Mon, 07 January 2019 13:54 |
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Tom Lins
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Matt Colie wrote on Mon, 07 January 2019 09:44First Questions for the community:
If you replaced the carpet in your coach, did you go back to carpet?
If yes, what did you put back and how?
And are you happy with it?
If you put in a hard surface floor,
What did you use?
And are you happy with it?
We have decided to finally remove the snag carpet in the Chaumière. It is all beat down, even after cleaning it does not come back up (and my pouring a pint of power steering fluid into it did not help it at all).
Thank you
Matt
I put down Armstrong Laminate on the main area that was left over from when we did our kitchen floor. This is the type you glue the pieces together and we use rubber backed throw rugs in places. That way we can sweep the bulk of the floor and just shake out the rugs.
In the cab I used commercial carpet tiles that way when they get dirty we take them out and can take a shampooer to them. Both work out well to keep the inside clean.
Tom Lins
St Augustine, FL
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| Re: [GMCnet] Ripping out the Shag.. Questions? [message #340000 is a reply to message #339970] |
Mon, 07 January 2019 14:22 |
Len Novak
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We ripped out outs when we did the ceiling. Interesting as to what was in the old carpet. I sealed the wood floor twice, bought some sound deadening padding (used in condo's) and used left over laminate from the house. Add two runners and good to go. I did use carpet in the cab. Great decision!
Cheers,
Len and Pat Novak
1978 GMC Kingsley
The Beast II with dash lights that work and labels you can see!
Fallbrook, CA new email: B52Rule@Roadrunner.Com
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4375
www.bdub.net/novak/
-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Matt Colie
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2019 6:44 AM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: [GMCnet] Ripping out the Shag.. Questions?
First Questions for the community:
If you replaced the carpet in your coach, did you go back to carpet?
If yes, what did you put back and how?
And are you happy with it?
If you put in a hard surface floor,
What did you use?
And are you happy with it?
We have decided to finally remove the snag carpet in the Chaumière. It is all beat down, even after cleaning it does not come back up (and my
pouring a pint of power steering fluid into it did not help it at all).
Thank you
Matt
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OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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1978 GMC Kingsley
The Beast II with dash lights that work and labels you can see!
Las Vegas, NV new email: B52sRule@Gmail.com
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| [GMCnet] Fwd: Ripping out the Shag.. Questions? [message #340002 is a reply to message #340000] |
Mon, 07 January 2019 15:52 |
Rollerg
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I just redid my interior last winter.
I used a product called “fat mat” sound deadening material throughout the coach. 3 - 50 sf rolls will do the job with some left over.
Found some 3/8” mineral fiber material with aluminum backing that I used for carpet padding up front.
This material is used as a firewall material under the hoods of cars.
Has great sound deadening qualities.
Went with carpet up front and one piece vinyl throughout the remainder of the coach.
The one piece vinyl was from Home Depot. A wood grain pattern we really liked.
Made a template from cardboard moving boxes taped together. Cut to within 1/2 in of perimeter.
Scribed some cross lines for general layout and then use a 2’ and 6’ level as an offset around the perimeter.
Reconstructed template outside the coach and used levels to scribe cut line.
I was a bit nervous. When I laid it in it was all within an 1/8”. Happy Happy.
I used a flexible cover base.
I wish I had glued it down but still turned out fine but have a few ripples.
The coach is very quiet. We use some floor rugs.
Very satisfied!!!
Gary Coaster / Reno, NV
1977 GMC Eleganza ll
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> From: "Len Novak"
> Date: January 7, 2019 at 12:22:36 PM PST
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> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Ripping out the Shag.. Questions?
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> We ripped out outs when we did the ceiling. Interesting as to what was in the old carpet. I sealed the wood floor twice, bought some sound deadening padding (used in condo's) and used left over laminate from the house. Add two runners and good to go. I did use carpet in the cab. Great decision!
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> Cheers,
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> Len and Pat Novak
> 1978 GMC Kingsley
> The Beast II with dash lights that work and labels you can see!
> Fallbrook, CA new email: B52Rule@Roadrunner.Com
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4375
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> www.bdub.net/novak/
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Matt Colie
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2019 6:44 AM
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: [GMCnet] Ripping out the Shag.. Questions?
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> First Questions for the community:
> If you replaced the carpet in your coach, did you go back to carpet?
> If yes, what did you put back and how?
> And are you happy with it?
>
> If you put in a hard surface floor,
> What did you use?
> And are you happy with it?
>
> We have decided to finally remove the snag carpet in the Chaumière. It is all beat down, even after cleaning it does not come back up (and my
> pouring a pint of power steering fluid into it did not help it at all).
>
> Thank you
>
> Matt
>
> --
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> Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
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| Re: Ripping out the Shag.. Questions? [message #340012 is a reply to message #339970] |
Tue, 08 January 2019 23:23 |
KB
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I put in a floating click-together cork floor. It's OK, though I'm not wild about the pattern. I think there are prettier versions available.
It's held up pretty well in the ~6 years it's been in there though. I sealed all the edges with varnish before assembly to keep it from absorbing moisture.
But, the best part was I put radiant heat under it. Got some mats from https://www.thermosoft.com/. (They often have sales, btw).
There are lots of other places to buy the stuff too.
I put a radiant barrier film under the mats (aluminum coated housewrap stuff; aluminum foil would probably work). May not do much, but doesn't hurt.
The mats don't get particularly hot, but they do keep the floor from being so darned cold. It's most noticeable if you feel under a rug or mat.
I used the felt underlayment version they have, but recently got some of the thermofilm stuff to play with.
More fun though, I've continued the theme by putting radiant heat under the rear window and in the bathroom walls. Mucho better.
jwid,
Karen
1975 26'
PS: DO NOT glue the flooring to the sub floor. Future owners will thank you. When I pulled up the damaged hardwood plank flooring in our 23,
it made a real mess of the subfloor because of the glue. Flooring is deciduous.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Ripping out the Shag.. Questions? [message #340020 is a reply to message #340016] |
Wed, 09 January 2019 06:01 |
Ken Henderson
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One more floor covering experience: When SHE refused to sleep in the
new-to-us GMC in '98, I had to gut it completely. After covering the walls
and ceiling with white-side-out "tile board" (melamine-coated masonite), I
covered the ceiling with indoor-outdoor carpet (the cheap kind that's that'
similar to, but heavier than, boat headliner material) from HER family
furniture store. All the floors got a layer of anti-allergent carpet pad
(3/4" foam with plastic sheet on both sides). On top of that, extending up
to the bottoms of the windows, a layer of Berber-weave polypropylene
indoor-outdoor carpet still looks like brand new. Above the carpet the
walls were wall-papered with a textured vinyl. That carpet has been
GREAT. The weave is tight enough that it doesn't collect dirt badly (since
our tour in Hawaii, we NEVER wear shoes in a residence anyway). And the
polypropylene is so durable that I've literally cleaned bad spill spots
from it with lacquer thinner -- with no residual signs. I've had steam
carpet cleaners go through it twice in the past 20 years for about $50 per
session. The carpet-up-the-walls idea was one of the best I've ever had:
The walls never feel cold at night when we roll up against them. If I had
kids trooping in & out, I'd probably prefer hard floors, but would stick
with the carpeted walls for that reason.
Ken H.
walls for that reason.Ken H.
On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 1:03 AM KB wrote:
> If you do put carpet in the cockpit (easiest solution, imho)...
> While it's very tempting to just cut out the carpet around the hatch and
> then attach that piece to the hatch itself,
> it looks a whole lot better if you cut a larger piece for the hatch and
> fold the edges under. Also cut the hatch hole
> a couple inches smaller all around so you can fold the edges under at the
> opening. Make up for the double thickness
> of carpet by not putting the foam padding under that part. Also, if you
> do have exposed edges of carpet, you can sorta
> finish the edges (or at least keep them from unraveling) with a quick
> blast from a heat gun (for synthetic carpets).
> Careful though, it melts very quickly...
>
> jwid,
> Karen
> 1975 26'
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| Re: Ripping out the Shag.. Questions? [message #340023 is a reply to message #339970] |
Wed, 09 January 2019 07:43 |
jhbridges
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Justin - did the noise level go up in the coach when you put the hard surfaces (floor, ceiling) in?
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
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| Re: Ripping out the Shag.. Questions? [message #340024 is a reply to message #340023] |
Wed, 09 January 2019 09:32 |
Justin Brady
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Johnny Bridges wrote on Wed, 09 January 2019 07:43Justin - did the noise level go up in the coach when you put the hard surfaces (floor, ceiling) in?
--johnny
Johnny I didn't spend a lot of time in the coach before, but I would say it's minimal difference. We have no issue with noise either driving or camping. We also put mass loaded vinyl sound deadening under the cab carpet which helped tremendously with driving noise, as well as the spray foam insulation
Justin Brady
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1976 Palm Beach 455
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