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New Alternator Installed - Thanks for the tips [message #339881] Tue, 01 January 2019 04:14 Go to next message
Russell K. is currently offline  Russell K.   United States
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Thank you everyone for the helpful tips on installing my alternator. The install was easier than expected. (how often can you say that with a GMC Motorhome?)

They say, without pictures it didn't happen. So here they are.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g7196-replacing-the-alternator.html

Thank you, and Happy New Year!


1978 Eleganza II, Dunedin, Florida
Re: New Alternator Installed - Thanks for the tips [message #339882 is a reply to message #339881] Tue, 01 January 2019 04:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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That is interesting. Every one that I have seen said rebuilt in Mexico. Oh well nothing stays the same for ever. China it is.

Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
Re: New Alternator Installed - Thanks for the tips [message #339884 is a reply to message #339881] Tue, 01 January 2019 07:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
RF_Burns is currently offline  RF_Burns   Canada
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Amazing that they can haul it half-way around the world and back and still rebuild it for cheaper cost than doing it here.

Bruce Hislop
ON Canada
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Re: New Alternator Installed - Thanks for the tips [message #339885 is a reply to message #339881] Tue, 01 January 2019 08:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jhbridges is currently offline  jhbridges   United States
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Bruce, I'm told that $3 Large will ship a container pretty much anyplace with a port. You can stuff a LOT of heathen chinee alternators in one. When the shipping cost over and back is $.50 a unit and the build labor and parts are half those in the US, chinee rebuild makes economic sense. As to qwuality, you get what you pay for Smile

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Re: [GMCnet] New Alternator Installed - Thanks for the tips [message #339886 is a reply to message #339884] Tue, 01 January 2019 09:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Olly Schmidt is currently offline  Olly Schmidt   United States
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On 01.01.19 14:52, Bruce Hislop wrote:
> Amazing that they can haul it half-way around the world and back and still rebuild it for cheaper cost than doing it here.
>

Afaik, the chinese gov is subsidizing chinese post office.

Otherwise it would not be possible to buy some small USB doo dad for
2USD-3USD, with free shipping, and having it in your hands within a week.

--
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Peer Oliver Schmidt
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'73 23' Sequoia - Schleswig-Holstein, Germany

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Re: [GMCnet] New Alternator Installed - Thanks for the tips [message #339887 is a reply to message #339886] Tue, 01 January 2019 09:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dolph Santorine is currently offline  Dolph Santorine   United States
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The issue is shipping to the USA is not as cheap as to China. About half the containers go back to China empty.

Dolph Santorine

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> On Jan 1, 2019, at 10:03 AM, Peer Oliver Schmidt wrote:
>
>> On 01.01.19 14:52, Bruce Hislop wrote:
>> Amazing that they can haul it half-way around the world and back and still rebuild it for cheaper cost than doing it here.
>>
>
> Afaik, the chinese gov is subsidizing chinese post office.
>
> Otherwise it would not be possible to buy some small USB doo dad for
> 2USD-3USD, with free shipping, and having it in your hands within a week.
>
> --
> Best regards
>
> Peer Oliver Schmidt
> PGP KeyID: 0x4196BF22
> '76a 26' Eleganza II - Virginia, US
> '73 23' Sequoia - Schleswig-Holstein, Germany
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Re: [GMCnet] New Alternator Installed - Thanks for the tips [message #339888 is a reply to message #339886] Tue, 01 January 2019 10:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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That's one of the disputes Trump's having with China right now: He's
abrogated the postal agreement which allows them to ship us things prepaid
from China for less than an empty envelope costs to mail across the US via
USPS.

That will hurt our pocketbooks, but is still only fair to our workers.

Ken H.

On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 10:04 AM Peer Oliver Schmidt
wrote:

> On 01.01.19 14:52, Bruce Hislop wrote:
>> Amazing that they can haul it half-way around the world and back and
> still rebuild it for cheaper cost than doing it here.
>>
>
> Afaik, the chinese gov is subsidizing chinese post office.
>
> Otherwise it would not be possible to buy some small USB doo dad for
> 2USD-3USD, with free shipping, and having it in your hands within a week.
>
> --
> Best regards
>
> Peer Oliver Schmidt
> PGP KeyID: 0x4196BF22
> '76a 26' Eleganza II - Virginia, US
> '73 23' Sequoia - Schleswig-Holstein, Germany
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Re: [GMCnet] New Alternator Installed - Thanks for the tips [message #339892 is a reply to message #339888] Tue, 01 January 2019 16:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
tphipps is currently offline  tphipps   United States
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The postal agreement was signed in 1844. China was a 4th World nation. Things have changed quite a bit.

Empty containers do not return to China. Chinese economics on these, it is cheaper to build an new one than to return an empty one. If you live near a port with International shipping, empties are everywhere. Here, in Lower Alabama, you can have an empty 40ft delivered to your site and placed for around $2000. You cannot build anything of that size for that money. Pretty secure also. Local builder just assembled a fast food cluster of 40 footers.


Ask Ken H. about the utility of his 40 footer.


Tom


2012 Phoenix Cruiser model 2552 KA4CSG
Re: [GMCnet] New Alternator Installed - Thanks for the tips [message #339894 is a reply to message #339892] Tue, 01 January 2019 18:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Harry is currently offline  Harry   Canada
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I have bought a few things from China and the quality has changed in the last few years.
It is quite good now.
For a while you could order good brake rotors, and for a few dollars less, you could get not so good brake rotors. Most people went for the cheaper ones then complained about quality.
Re: [GMCnet] New Alternator Installed - Thanks for the tips [message #339895 is a reply to message #339894] Tue, 01 January 2019 19:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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When I first moved to Salem, Oregon in 1958, I went to work as a busboy in
a large Chinese Restaurant. Owned and operated by Chinese immigrants from
Hong Kong. They treated me very well, and some of them became life long
acquaintances. They stated extreme dislike for the Communists, and said
that was the primary reason they left China. They were great cooks, and
taught me a lot about food service. But, alternator rebuilding was NOT one
of their strong suits. I don't think that has improved a great deal. I use
a local rebuilder, who uses USA manufactured parts in their rebuilds. I
have very few problems with their stuff.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or

On Tue, Jan 1, 2019, 4:48 PM David H. Jarvis I have bought a few things from China and the quality has changed in the[/color]
> last few years.
> It is quite good now.
> For a while you could order good brake rotors, and for a few dollars less,
> you could get not so good brake rotors. Most people went for the cheaper
> ones then complained about quality.
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Re: [GMCnet] New Alternator Installed - Thanks for the tips [message #339896 is a reply to message #339892] Tue, 01 January 2019 21:21 Go to previous message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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I have a one time use container here that I use a garage for my John Deere and Zero turn mower. It has doors on both ends. It cost me $2200 delivered from one of the ports in Chicago. Mine was made in Denmark and used once. It was like new when I received it. It was never painted with any company logo and the doors one end were never opened since it left the factory.

The deal on the mail is by international agreement. The origination country set the rates, collects, and keeps the money while the destination country has to receive it at a postal customs facility in their country and deliver it from there for free. The arrangement assumes the mail traveling the other way is handled similarly so it all balances out money wise in the end.

Most of the small light weight stuff travels as air freight on already flying passenger planes. Bigger / heavier postal items have to travel air or surface freight which raises their cost but the rates and transport times are still set by the originating country.

Heavy items are usually not shipped by postal services but by freight / shipping companies which is a completely different system.

A lot of countries use the postal service as a revenue generator and set the rates high. A few do the opposite and set the rates low or subsidize the operation encourage exports.



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