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| Re: [GMCnet] new block [message #339587 is a reply to message #339586] |
Sun, 16 December 2018 19:12   |
Bruce Hart
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So, what side is the starter located on?
On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 5:32 PM Ken Henderson
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> VERY Interesting. Now we can build 600Old's instead of Cad500's!
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> (but I don't even want to hear the price)
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> Ken H.
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> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 7:00 PM Gary Kosier
> wrote:
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>> Has anyone noticed the new 455 block from Rocket Racing? It has many
>> improvements.
>>
>> Gary Kosier
>> 77PB w/500Cad
>> Newark, Ohio
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| Re: [GMCnet] new block [message #339588 is a reply to message #339587] |
Sun, 16 December 2018 19:31 |
jimk
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Bruce,
the side the starter is based on the transmission.
Our 425 trans is on the passenger side. the non front drive unit is on the
driver side.
On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 5:13 PM Bruce Hart wrote:
> So, what side is the starter located on?
>
> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 5:32 PM Ken Henderson
> wrote:
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>> VERY Interesting. Now we can build 600Old's instead of Cad500's!
>>
>> (but I don't even want to hear the price)
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 7:00 PM Gary Kosier
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Has anyone noticed the new 455 block from Rocket Racing? It has many
>>> improvements.
>>>
>>> Gary Kosier
>>> 77PB w/500Cad
>>> Newark, Ohio
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| Re: [GMCnet] new block [message #339590 is a reply to message #339589] |
Mon, 17 December 2018 06:16 |
Bruce Hart
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Jim K.,
That is what I was getting at. Do they have castings for both left and
right side starters?
Same for the Cadillac bock.
On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 8:11 PM Gary Kosier wrote:
> Ken,
>
> There is also a new Cadillac block supposedly being prototyped.
> It will also be an improved version. Not a lot of details as of yet.
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> Gary Kosier
> 77PB w/500Cad
> Newark, Ohio
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Ken Henderson"
> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 7:30 PM
> To: "GMC Mail List"
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] new block
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>> VERY Interesting. Now we can build 600Old's instead of Cad500's!
>>
>> (but I don't even want to hear the price)
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 7:00 PM Gary Kosier
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Has anyone noticed the new 455 block from Rocket Racing? It has many
>>> improvements.
>>>
>>> Gary Kosier
>>> 77PB w/500Cad
>>> Newark, Ohio
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| Re: [GMCnet] new block [message #339593 is a reply to message #339586] |
Mon, 17 December 2018 07:57 |
midlf
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Ken Henderson wrote on Sun, 16 December 2018 18:30VERY Interesting. Now we can build 600Old's instead of Cad500's!
(but I don't even want to hear the price)
Ken H.
On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 7:00 PM Gary Kosier wrote:
$4995 on the web site. They have a quantity field. How many do you want?
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] new block [message #339597 is a reply to message #339595] |
Mon, 17 December 2018 09:29 |
James Hupy
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I believe that the question was being asked of the new engine block. Not
the existing ones. Originally, Olds stuck with a drivers side location for
the starter, it was a pain in the butt when swapping the engine into older
cars, particularly Fords of the 30's, 40's, due to interference with the
steering boxes.
When the 455's came out in the front wheel drive cars, engine swappers
rejoiced, for they switched the starter to the passenger side. They liked
the ELDORADO engines for the same reason.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403
On Mon, Dec 17, 2018, 6:52 AM Les Burt Bruce,[/color]
> The starter bolts to the block on the left for rear drive setups, and
> bolts to the trans belhousing on the right side for the TH425. The blocks
> are all the same irregardless of drive configuration.
>
> Les Burt
> Montreal
> '75 Eleganza 26'
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>
>> On Dec 17, 2018, at 8:57 AM, Steve Southworth
> wrote:
>>
>> Ken Henderson wrote on Sun, 16 December 2018 18:30
>>> VERY Interesting. Now we can build 600Old's instead of Cad500's!
>>>
>>> (but I don't even want to hear the price)
>>>
>>> Ken H.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 7:00 PM Gary Kosier wrote:
>>
>> $4995 on the web site. They have a quantity field. How many do you
> want?
>> --
>> Steve Southworth
>> 1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
>> 1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
>> Palmyra WI
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] new block [message #339603 is a reply to message #339597] |
Mon, 17 December 2018 12:57 |
Sammy Williams
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The starter mounts on the drivers side. However there looks to be enough
"meat" to drill and tap holes on the right side.
Sammy Williams
On Mon, Dec 17, 2018, 09:27 James Hupy I believe that the question was being asked of the new engine block. Not[/color]
> the existing ones. Originally, Olds stuck with a drivers side location for
> the starter, it was a pain in the butt when swapping the engine into older
> cars, particularly Fords of the 30's, 40's, due to interference with the
> steering boxes.
> When the 455's came out in the front wheel drive cars, engine swappers
> rejoiced, for they switched the starter to the passenger side. They liked
> the ELDORADO engines for the same reason.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Or
> 78 GMC ROYALE 403
>
> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018, 6:52 AM Les Burt
>> Bruce,
>> The starter bolts to the block on the left for rear drive setups, and
>> bolts to the trans belhousing on the right side for the TH425. The blocks
>> are all the same irregardless of drive configuration.
>>
>> Les Burt
>> Montreal
>> '75 Eleganza 26'
>>
>>
>>> On Dec 17, 2018, at 8:57 AM, Steve Southworth
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ken Henderson wrote on Sun, 16 December 2018 18:30
>>>> VERY Interesting. Now we can build 600Old's instead of Cad500's!
>>>>
>>>> (but I don't even want to hear the price)
>>>>
>>>> Ken H.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 7:00 PM Gary Kosier wrote:
>>>
>>> $4995 on the web site. They have a quantity field. How many do you
>> want?
>>> --
>>> Steve Southworth
>>> 1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
>>> 1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
>>> Palmyra WI
>>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] new block [message #339606 is a reply to message #339604] |
Mon, 17 December 2018 17:38 |
jimk
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The right side needs the toronado starter as the block does not have the
holes as it mounts to the trans.
On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 12:04 PM Matt Colie wrote:
> midlf wrote on Mon, 17 December 2018 08:57
>> $4995 on the web site. They have a quantity field. How many do you
> want?
>
> Well,
> Toss in:
> 4.500 billet crank 1895
> 7.100 Rods 545
> Edelbrock heads 2390
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> And we don't even have the 4.400 pistons yet......
>
> I think I'll just stick with my 461 thanks.
>
> Matt
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