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[GMCnet] Removing Kool Seal [message #339441] Sun, 09 December 2018 21:05 Go to next message
Dolph Santorine is currently offline  Dolph Santorine   United States
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The PO put Kool Seal on the roof of the coach.

I’m looking at options to remove it.

Does anyone have experience with any of these drum style paint removers?

Eastwood Contour SCT “Surface Conditioning Tool”
Porter-Cable “Restorer”
Black and Decker “Multi Surface Restoration Tool”

All about the same. The Eastwood is a little larger, but the consumables are EXPENSIVE.

Of course, comparing them to a Angle Grinder with a 3M Clean-N-Strip disc (a.k.a. “Lava Pad”)

Thanks.

Dolph

DE AD0LF

Wheeling, West Virginia

1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
Howell EFI & EBL, Reaction Arms, Sullybilt Bags, Manny Transmission

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Re: [GMCnet] Removing Kool Seal [message #339443 is a reply to message #339441] Mon, 10 December 2018 00:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What is the preferred way to seal the roof seams?


On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 7:06 PM Dolph Santorine wrote:

> The PO put Kool Seal on the roof of the coach.
>
> I’m looking at options to remove it.
>
> Does anyone have experience with any of these drum style paint removers?
>
> Eastwood Contour SCT “Surface Conditioning Tool”
> Porter-Cable “Restorer”
> Black and Decker “Multi Surface Restoration Tool”
>
> All about the same. The Eastwood is a little larger, but the consumables
> are EXPENSIVE.
>
> Of course, comparing them to a Angle Grinder with a 3M Clean-N-Strip disc
> (a.k.a. “Lava Pad”)
>
> Thanks.
>
> Dolph
>
> DE AD0LF
>
> Wheeling, West Virginia
>
> 1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
> Howell EFI & EBL, Reaction Arms, Sullybilt Bags, Manny Transmission
>
> “The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Removing Kool Seal [message #339445 is a reply to message #339443] Mon, 10 December 2018 11:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sgltrac is currently offline  sgltrac   United States
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Google eternabond seam tape roofing. I have not used it on an rv but have
heard good reports from some I know who had. I also used it to seal
flashing on a cargo container turned storage shed and it worked very
nicely.

Sully
Bellevue wa

On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 10:06 PM John Phillips
wrote:

> What is the preferred way to seal the roof seams?
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 7:06 PM Dolph Santorine
> wrote:
>
>> The PO put Kool Seal on the roof of the coach.
>>
>> I’m looking at options to remove it.
>>
>> Does anyone have experience with any of these drum style paint removers?
>>
>> Eastwood Contour SCT “Surface Conditioning Tool”
>> Porter-Cable “Restorer”
>> Black and Decker “Multi Surface Restoration Tool”
>>
>> All about the same. The Eastwood is a little larger, but the consumables
>> are EXPENSIVE.
>>
>> Of course, comparing them to a Angle Grinder with a 3M Clean-N-Strip disc
>> (a.k.a. “Lava Pad”)
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Dolph
>>
>> DE AD0LF
>>
>> Wheeling, West Virginia
>>
>> 1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
>> Howell EFI & EBL, Reaction Arms, Sullybilt Bags, Manny Transmission
>>
>> “The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"
>>
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Re: [GMCnet] Removing Kool Seal [message #339446 is a reply to message #339445] Mon, 10 December 2018 11:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dolph Santorine is currently offline  Dolph Santorine   United States
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How did you seal up your roof before paint, Sully?

Dolph Santorine

DE AD0LF

Wheeling, West Virginia

1977 ex-Palm Beach TZE167V100820
Sullybuilt Bags, Reaction Arms, Manny Transmission


> On Dec 10, 2018, at 12:12 PM, Todd Sullivan wrote:
>
> Google eternabond seam tape roofing. I have not used it on an rv but have
> heard good reports from some I know who had. I also used it to seal
> flashing on a cargo container turned storage shed and it worked very
> nicely.
>
> Sully
> Bellevue wa
>
> On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 10:06 PM John Phillips
> wrote:
>
>> What is the preferred way to seal the roof seams?
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 7:06 PM Dolph Santorine
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The PO put Kool Seal on the roof of the coach.
>>>
>>> I’m looking at options to remove it.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have experience with any of these drum style paint removers?
>>>
>>> Eastwood Contour SCT “Surface Conditioning Tool”
>>> Porter-Cable “Restorer”
>>> Black and Decker “Multi Surface Restoration Tool”
>>>
>>> All about the same. The Eastwood is a little larger, but the consumables
>>> are EXPENSIVE.
>>>
>>> Of course, comparing them to a Angle Grinder with a 3M Clean-N-Strip disc
>>> (a.k.a. “Lava Pad”)
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Dolph
>>>
>>> DE AD0LF
>>>
>>> Wheeling, West Virginia
>>>
>>> 1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
>>> Howell EFI & EBL, Reaction Arms, Sullybilt Bags, Manny Transmission
>>>
>>> “The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> GMCnet mailing list
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>>
>>
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Re: [GMCnet] Removing Kool Seal [message #339457 is a reply to message #339446] Mon, 10 December 2018 15:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sgltrac is currently offline  sgltrac   United States
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3m 08369 single part moisture curing seam sealer. It works well but is not
terribly easy to tool as it skins fast. I chose it because I wanted a
sealant that was direct to metal as well as paintable and forever flexible.
If I had known about Eternabond then I would likely have chosen it instead.
Way less $ and hassle.

Sully
Bellevue wa

On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 9:24 AM Adolph Santorine
wrote:

> How did you seal up your roof before paint, Sully?
>
> Dolph Santorine
>
> DE AD0LF
>
> Wheeling, West Virginia
>
> 1977 ex-Palm Beach TZE167V100820
> Sullybuilt Bags, Reaction Arms, Manny Transmission
>
>
>> On Dec 10, 2018, at 12:12 PM, Todd Sullivan wrote:
>>
>> Google eternabond seam tape roofing. I have not used it on an rv but have
>> heard good reports from some I know who had. I also used it to seal
>> flashing on a cargo container turned storage shed and it worked very
>> nicely.
>>
>> Sully
>> Bellevue wa
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 10:06 PM John Phillips
>> wrote:
>>
>>> What is the preferred way to seal the roof seams?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 7:06 PM Dolph Santorine
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The PO put Kool Seal on the roof of the coach.
>>>>
>>>> I’m looking at options to remove it.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have experience with any of these drum style paint
> removers?
>>>>
>>>> Eastwood Contour SCT “Surface Conditioning Tool”
>>>> Porter-Cable “Restorer”
>>>> Black and Decker “Multi Surface Restoration Tool”
>>>>
>>>> All about the same. The Eastwood is a little larger, but the
> consumables
>>>> are EXPENSIVE.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, comparing them to a Angle Grinder with a 3M Clean-N-Strip
> disc
>>>> (a.k.a. “Lava Pad”)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Dolph
>>>>
>>>> DE AD0LF
>>>>
>>>> Wheeling, West Virginia
>>>>
>>>> 1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
>>>> Howell EFI & EBL, Reaction Arms, Sullybilt Bags, Manny Transmission
>>>>
>>>> “The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>
>>>
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Re: [GMCnet] Removing Kool Seal [message #339461 is a reply to message #339457] Mon, 10 December 2018 17:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dolph Santorine is currently offline  Dolph Santorine   United States
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The usual application allowing it to self level between tape strips?


Dolph

DE AD0LF

Wheeling, West Virginia

1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
Howell EFI & EBL, Reaction Arms, Sullybilt Bags, Manny Transmission

“The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"

> On Dec 10, 2018, at 4:33 PM, Todd Sullivan wrote:
>
> 3m 08369 single part moisture curing seam sealer. It works well but is not
> terribly easy to tool as it skins fast. I chose it because I wanted a
> sealant that was direct to metal as well as paintable and forever flexible.
> If I had known about Eternabond then I would likely have chosen it instead.
> Way less $ and hassle.
>
> Sully
> Bellevue wa
>
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 9:24 AM Adolph Santorine
> wrote:
>
>> How did you seal up your roof before paint, Sully?
>>
>> Dolph Santorine
>>
>> DE AD0LF
>>
>> Wheeling, West Virginia
>>
>> 1977 ex-Palm Beach TZE167V100820
>> Sullybuilt Bags, Reaction Arms, Manny Transmission
>>
>>
>>> On Dec 10, 2018, at 12:12 PM, Todd Sullivan wrote:
>>>
>>> Google eternabond seam tape roofing. I have not used it on an rv but have
>>> heard good reports from some I know who had. I also used it to seal
>>> flashing on a cargo container turned storage shed and it worked very
>>> nicely.
>>>
>>> Sully
>>> Bellevue wa
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 10:06 PM John Phillips
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What is the preferred way to seal the roof seams?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 7:06 PM Dolph Santorine
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > The PO put Kool Seal on the roof of the coach.
>>>> >
>>>> > I’m looking at options to remove it.
>>>> >
>>>> > Does anyone have experience with any of these drum style paint
>> removers?
>>>> >
>>>> > Eastwood Contour SCT “Surface Conditioning Tool”
>>>> > Porter-Cable “Restorer”
>>>> > Black and Decker “Multi Surface Restoration Tool”
>>>> >
>>>> > All about the same. The Eastwood is a little larger, but the
>> consumables
>>>> > are EXPENSIVE.
>>>> >
>>>> > Of course, comparing them to a Angle Grinder with a 3M Clean-N-Strip
>> disc
>>>> > (a.k.a. “Lava Pad”)
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks.
>>>> >
>>>> > Dolph
>>>> >
>>>> > DE AD0LF
>>>> >
>>>> > Wheeling, West Virginia
>>>> >
>>>> > 1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
>>>> > Howell EFI & EBL, Reaction Arms, Sullybilt Bags, Manny Transmission
>>>> >
>>>> > “The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"
>>>> >
>>>> > _______________________________________________
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>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [GMCnet] Removing Kool Seal [message #339463 is a reply to message #339461] Mon, 10 December 2018 19:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sgltrac is currently offline  sgltrac   United States
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Nope. I sprayed epoxy primer and let it cure overnight then I masked and
then spread it with a filler spreader then pulled the tape prior to
skinning over then went right into paint.

Sully
Bellevue wa.

On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 3:40 PM Dolph Santorine
wrote:

> The usual application allowing it to self level between tape strips?
>
>
> Dolph
>
> DE AD0LF
>
> Wheeling, West Virginia
>
> 1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
> Howell EFI & EBL, Reaction Arms, Sullybilt Bags, Manny Transmission
>
> “The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"
>
>> On Dec 10, 2018, at 4:33 PM, Todd Sullivan wrote:
>>
>> 3m 08369 single part moisture curing seam sealer. It works well but is
> not
>> terribly easy to tool as it skins fast. I chose it because I wanted a
>> sealant that was direct to metal as well as paintable and forever
> flexible.
>> If I had known about Eternabond then I would likely have chosen it
> instead.
>> Way less $ and hassle.
>>
>> Sully
>> Bellevue wa
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 9:24 AM Adolph Santorine
>> wrote:
>>
>>> How did you seal up your roof before paint, Sully?
>>>
>>> Dolph Santorine
>>>
>>> DE AD0LF
>>>
>>> Wheeling, West Virginia
>>>
>>> 1977 ex-Palm Beach TZE167V100820
>>> Sullybuilt Bags, Reaction Arms, Manny Transmission
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Dec 10, 2018, at 12:12 PM, Todd Sullivan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Google eternabond seam tape roofing. I have not used it on an rv but
> have
>>>> heard good reports from some I know who had. I also used it to seal
>>>> flashing on a cargo container turned storage shed and it worked very
>>>> nicely.
>>>>
>>>> Sully
>>>> Bellevue wa
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 10:06 PM John Phillips john.phillips0@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > What is the preferred way to seal the roof seams?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 7:06 PM Dolph Santorine
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> The PO put Kool Seal on the roof of the coach.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I’m looking at options to remove it.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Does anyone have experience with any of these drum style paint
>>> removers?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Eastwood Contour SCT “Surface Conditioning Tool”
>>>> >> Porter-Cable “Restorer”
>>>> >> Black and Decker “Multi Surface Restoration Tool”
>>>> >>
>>>> >> All about the same. The Eastwood is a little larger, but the
>>> consumables
>>>> >> are EXPENSIVE.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Of course, comparing them to a Angle Grinder with a 3M Clean-N-Strip
>>> disc
>>>> >> (a.k.a. “Lava Pad”)
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Thanks.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Dolph
>>>> >>
>>>> >> DE AD0LF
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Wheeling, West Virginia
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
>>>> >> Howell EFI & EBL, Reaction Arms, Sullybilt Bags, Manny Transmission
>>>> >>
>>>> >> “The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"
>>>> >>
>>>> >> _______________________________________________
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>>>> >
>>>> >
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Re: [GMCnet] Removing Kool Seal [message #339467 is a reply to message #339441] Mon, 10 December 2018 21:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jerry Sitzlar is currently offline  Jerry Sitzlar   United States
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Dolph,

I have the Eastwood SCT unit that I got to remove the paint from an old VW Beetle (4 coats of paint!). I tested it on one spot and it stripped down to bare metal in mere seconds. The downside is that it is expensive ($199 unless you get it on sale). The drums are expensive (it only comes with the fine grit drum), and it is large, bulky, and it's heavy. However, it doesn't try to twist out of your grip like an angle grinder.

Jerry




Jerry Sitzlar..... 77 Eleganza II, Twin bed, dry bath...... Lenoir City, TN (near Knoxville)
Re: [GMCnet] Removing Kool Seal [message #339468 is a reply to message #339467] Mon, 10 December 2018 23:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sgltrac is currently offline  sgltrac   United States
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Dolf,

Is the coating still rubbery or hard and brittle?

Sully
Bellevue wa

On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 8:03 PM Jerry Sitzlar via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:

> Dolph,
>
> I have the Eastwood SCT unit that I got to remove the paint from an old VW
> Beetle (4 coats of paint!). I tested it on one spot and it stripped down
> to bare metal in mere seconds. The downside is that it is expensive ($199
> unless you get it on sale). The drums are expensive (it only comes with
> the fine grit drum), and it is large, bulky, and it's heavy. However, it
> doesn't try to twist out of your grip like an angle grinder.
>
> Jerry
>
>
>
> --
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> 77 Eleganza II, Twin bed, dry bath......
> Lenoir City, TN (near Knoxville)
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Removing Kool Seal [message #339478 is a reply to message #339468] Tue, 11 December 2018 10:22 Go to previous message
Will Albers is currently offline  Will Albers   United States
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I used EternaBond Tape in a bind. If i were to do it again, I would choose
the same, but 1" wide compared to 2". Mine looks beige like a long
band-aid. Not a huge fan of the look. Huge fan of the seal however.


On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 12:07 AM Todd Sullivan wrote:

> Dolf,
>
> Is the coating still rubbery or hard and brittle?
>
> Sully
> Bellevue wa
>
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 8:03 PM Jerry Sitzlar via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Dolph,
>>
>> I have the Eastwood SCT unit that I got to remove the paint from an old
> VW
>> Beetle (4 coats of paint!). I tested it on one spot and it stripped down
>> to bare metal in mere seconds. The downside is that it is expensive
> ($199
>> unless you get it on sale). The drums are expensive (it only comes with
>> the fine grit drum), and it is large, bulky, and it's heavy. However, it
>> doesn't try to twist out of your grip like an angle grinder.
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jerry Sitzlar.....
>> 77 Eleganza II, Twin bed, dry bath......
>> Lenoir City, TN (near Knoxville)
>>
>>
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