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1973 Canyonland rear end not raising???? [message #339379] Fri, 07 December 2018 13:21 Go to next message
Gregor is currently offline  Gregor   United States
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Hello,

I have a '73 Canyonland that won't raise in the rear end. I am new to these. Just getting this thing tuned up for my cousin to sell. Divorces are hard on the pocketbook. I started it up and let it warm up and the rear end did not raise. I turned the dials to raise for a minute or so and nothing. Googled and found this site but no instructions on how to operate the system. It has been sitting for two years but fired up and sounds great.

Thanks,
Gregor Bailey
Re: 1973 Canyonland rear end not raising???? [message #339380 is a reply to message #339379] Fri, 07 December 2018 13:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jhbridges is currently offline  jhbridges   United States
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Gregor -
Where are you? There's probably someone here or a friend of a friend who is close enough to help you. If therer are shutoffs and Schrader valves in back at the end of each airbag shut the valve off and fill to level with a portable compressor.

--johnny


Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons. Braselton, Ga. I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
Re: [GMCnet] 1973 Canyonland rear end not raising???? [message #339381 is a reply to message #339379] Fri, 07 December 2018 13:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Len Novak is currently offline  Len Novak   United States
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Does the compressor run?

There may be a gauge on the air tank. If so does it have a reading?

Len and Pat Novak
1978 GMC Kingsley
The Beast II with dash lights that work and labels you can see!
Fallbrook, CA new email: B52Rule@Roadrunner.Com
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Subject: [GMCnet] 1973 Canyonland rear end not raising????

Hello,

I have a '73 Canyonland that won't raise in the rear end. I am new to
these. Just getting this thing tuned up for my cousin to sell. Divorces are
hard on the pocketbook. I started it up and let it warm up and the rear end
did not raise. I turned the dials to raise for a minute or so and nothing.
Googled and found this site but no instructions on how to operate the
system. It has been sitting for two years but fired up and sounds great.

Thanks,
Gregor Bailey


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Len and Pat Novak 1978 GMC Kingsley The Beast II with dash lights that work and labels you can see! Las Vegas, NV new email: B52sRule@Gmail.com http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4375 www.bdub.net/novak/
Re: 1973 Canyonland rear end not raising???? [message #339389 is a reply to message #339379] Fri, 07 December 2018 15:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gregor is currently offline  Gregor   United States
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I am in Barnes Kansas. I let it run on raise for 20 min or so and nothing. Where is the compressor? If it is in the rear I did not hear it. Belt driven? Thanks for the advice on filling with a compressor to get it moved! I still want to fix the air issue figure it will sell for more with that going.
Re: [GMCnet] 1973 Canyonland rear end not raising???? [message #339390 is a reply to message #339389] Fri, 07 December 2018 15:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Len Novak is currently offline  Len Novak   United States
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The compressor should be up front on the frame, drivers side visible when
the drivers hood is open. It should be blue, sitting on top of a small air
tank.

Len and Pat Novak
1978 GMC Kingsley
The Beast II with dash lights that work and labels you can see!
Fallbrook, CA new email: B52Rule@Roadrunner.Com
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4375

www.bdub.net/novak/





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I am in Barnes Kansas. I let it run on raise for 20 min or so and nothing.
Where is the compressor? If it is in the rear I did not hear it. Belt
driven? Thanks for the advice on filling with a compressor to get it moved!
I still want to fix the air issue figure it will sell for more with that
going.

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Len and Pat Novak 1978 GMC Kingsley The Beast II with dash lights that work and labels you can see! Las Vegas, NV new email: B52sRule@Gmail.com http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4375 www.bdub.net/novak/
Re: 1973 Canyonland rear end not raising???? [message #339393 is a reply to message #339379] Fri, 07 December 2018 17:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
C Boyd is currently offline  C Boyd   United States
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Sometimes an extra switch is added around the dash area so the air system can be turned off.

C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
Re: [GMCnet] 1973 Canyonland rear end not raising???? [message #339408 is a reply to message #339390] Fri, 07 December 2018 21:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Richard Denney is currently offline  Richard Denney   United States
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Len, it’s a ‘73 Power Level system. The tank will be large and under the
batteries in the front passenger-side corner, and the compressor will be
under the driver’s foot where you said.

Greg, several things to check:

1. Look at where the air line (1/4” nylon) goes into one of the rear
airbags. Is there a valve there, with a handle? If so, make sure these are
open. These are not factory but are popular additions.

2. Look on the tank—you’ll have to get on your back in front of the right
front tire and look up. Is there a tire valve anywhere on the tank? If so,
use a shop compressor and put 100 psi in the tank. If the bags fill up, put
the dash valves in Travel and keep filling the tank with shop air until the
rear stabilizes and the tank is higher than about 90 psi. If it holds air
there reasonably, you have a working air system, except maybe for the
compressor. If it never raises, listen for where air is escaping to find
the problem.

3. Does the compressor run? If not, is it getting 12 volts? If not, flip
the lever on the nearby pressure switch to manually force it on, and see if
that makes the compressor run. If so, replace the pressure switch with one
that has a target range of 90-125 psi. If that doesn’t fix it, check the
fuse or look for an add-on switch. If the compressor runs but the tank
never builds pressure, the compressor needs to be rebuilt or replaced. If
the tank fills but the bags don’t, and the dash valves are in Raise or
Travel, the problem is more complex. But one thing at a time.

This article describes how your system works:
http://www.gmceast.com/technical/Denney_Power_Level_System.pdf

The advice to find a local mentor is important. Go to Bdub’s site linked
below and look for the link to the Black List (aka GMC Assist List), in the
upper right corner. You have, as Matt will tell you in a little while, a
whole bunch of new, old friends who want you to have success with your
coach. Be sure to bookmark Bdub’s site—it has everything.

http://www.bdub.net/GMCLinks.html

Rick “usually it’s the compressor or its switchery” Denney

On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 4:50 PM Len Novak wrote:

> The compressor should be up front on the frame, drivers side visible when
> the drivers hood is open. It should be blue, sitting on top of a small
> air
> tank.
>
> Len and Pat Novak
> 1978 GMC Kingsley
> The Beast II with dash lights that work and labels you can see!
> Fallbrook, CA new email: B52Rule@Roadrunner.Com
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4375
>
> www.bdub.net/novak/
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> gregorb23@gmail.com
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2018 1:24 PM
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 1973 Canyonland rear end not raising????
>
> I am in Barnes Kansas. I let it run on raise for 20 min or so and nothing.
> Where is the compressor? If it is in the rear I did not hear it. Belt
> driven? Thanks for the advice on filling with a compressor to get it moved!
> I still want to fix the air issue figure it will sell for more with that
> going.
>
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Re: [GMCnet] 1973 Canyonland rear end not raising???? [message #339420 is a reply to message #339408] Sat, 08 December 2018 10:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gregor is currently offline  Gregor   United States
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Thanks for the help. I am not going to be able to look at it again till Monday morning. I will keep you guys updated.
Re: 1973 Canyonland rear end not raising???? [message #339669 is a reply to message #339379] Thu, 20 December 2018 10:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gregor is currently offline  Gregor   United States
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I was finally able to look at the truck and it was just a loose ground wire on the compressor!
Re: 1973 Canyonland rear end not raising???? [message #339675 is a reply to message #339669] Thu, 20 December 2018 12:17 Go to previous message
tphipps is currently offline  tphipps   United States
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So all those electrons were falling on the wrong ground. Sometimes it is the simple things.
Tom


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