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Macerator setup [message #338150] Sat, 27 October 2018 11:46 Go to next message
tgeiger is currently offline  tgeiger   United States
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Been reading and looking at pics on the macerator setup and I have a question on the hose that is stored next to the generator. Is that separate and needs to be hooked up to the one that runs from the pump?

Tom Geiger 76 Eleganza II KCMO
Re: Macerator setup [message #338151 is a reply to message #338150] Sat, 27 October 2018 12:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Different people have different ways to store the macerator hose. I use a 10ft piece of PCV conduit fastened along the frame under the driver's side. I just pull it out when dumping and then push it back down the conduit when done. No winding and unwinding the hose. Takes less than 10 seconds to pull the hose out and about 20 seconds to put it back in.

JWID


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Re: Macerator setup [message #338152 is a reply to message #338151] Sat, 27 October 2018 12:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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RF_Burns wrote on Sat, 27 October 2018 13:18
Different people have different ways to store the macerator hose. I use a 10ft piece of PCV conduit fastened along the frame under the driver's side. I just pull it out when dumping and then push it back down the conduit when done. No winding and unwinding the hose. Takes less than 10 seconds to pull the hose out and about 20 seconds to put it back in.

JWID
That is what I do and it could not be easier to dump. Less than 5 minutes to empty a full black tank after parking next to the dump station. Plus little to no clean up.




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Re: [GMCnet] Macerator setup [message #338153 is a reply to message #338151] Sat, 27 October 2018 12:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The pump does not allow fluid to flow past, so there is no need to
disconnect it.
If yor looking to empy as much as possible, you need to have the Lynn Clark
reducer as it will pick up 30-40% more lower level fluid.
Using the wrong style pump will not be bennificial as it will address only
the first half of a full tank.
Also never use a stand on/off switch as one never know when you need to
shut off. We use the intermitent switch so it will shut off when one
releases the switch.
Should you need help, contact me.

On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 10:24 AM Bruce Hislop wrote:

> Different people have different ways to store the macerator hose. I use a
> 10ft piece of PCV conduit fastened along the frame under the driver's side.
> I just pull it out when dumping and then push it back down the conduit
> when done. No winding and unwinding the hose. Takes less than 10 seconds to
> pull the hose out and about 20 seconds to put it back in.
>
> JWID
> --
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> ON Canada
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Re: [GMCnet] Macerator setup [message #338154 is a reply to message #338152] Sat, 27 October 2018 14:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dolph Santorine is currently offline  Dolph Santorine   United States
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I’m with Richard. Grey conduit under the coach. (I painted mine black)

I’m thrilled with the “Poop-Shooter”, and the reducer makes it work that much better.

Every year, I fill the tank with ice and go for a ride. It knocks anything that might be sticking loose.

The macerator handles it with aplomb.


Dolph

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> On Oct 27, 2018, at 1:56 PM, RJW wrote:
>
> RF_Burns wrote on Sat, 27 October 2018 13:18
>> Different people have different ways to store the macerator hose. I use a 10ft piece of PCV conduit fastened along the frame under the driver's
>> side. I just pull it out when dumping and then push it back down the conduit when done. No winding and unwinding the hose. Takes less than 10
>> seconds to pull the hose out and about 20 seconds to put it back in.
>>
>> JWID
>
> That is what I do and it could not be easier to dump. Less than 5 minutes to empty a full black tank after parking next to the dump station. Plus
> little to no clean up.
>
>
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Re: Macerator setup [message #338155 is a reply to message #338150] Sat, 27 October 2018 16:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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tgieger:
One thing to note when mounting your pump:

The black tank is mounted to the body of the coach, not the frame. Therefore you should be sure your pump is also mounted to the body of the coach. Otherwise the slight movement between the frame and the body is likely to weaken and break some part of the plumbing between the pump and tank. You don't want this to happen.

JWID


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Re: [GMCnet] Macerator setup [message #338156 is a reply to message #338155] Sat, 27 October 2018 16:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bruce has a good point about relative motion. OR, you can do as I do:
Mount the macerator to the frame and connect it to the tank and its
plumbing with a flexible hose, such as a heavy duty sewer hose (I use a
heavier duty agricultural hose).

Ken H

On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 5:14 PM Bruce Hislop wrote:

> tgieger:
> One thing to note when mounting your pump:
>
> The black tank is mounted to the body of the coach, not the frame.
> Therefore you should be sure your pump is also mounted to the body of the
> coach.
> Otherwise the slight movement between the frame and the body is likely to
> weaken and break some part of the plumbing between the pump and tank. You
> don't want this to happen.
>
>
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Re: Macerator setup [message #338166 is a reply to message #338150] Sun, 28 October 2018 08:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I found the PO had mounted the macerator using only some rubber connections. Which failed. I mounted it to a floor rail, using two pieces of 1/32 sheet metal sandwiched together. They have a small amount of flexibility, as does the rubber connection to the outlet pipe. There's a piece of PVC inside the rear bumber that the hose slides into. I may replace it with a longer hose and run it along the frame. When I get in from a trip, next day I run the water tank empty which pretty much fills the black tank. Run the coach up to the gas station and back - along a couple of short steep hills - and the pull the rear close to my dump and lower the airbags and let 'er rip. This seems to get the tank pretty empty.

--johnny


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Re: [GMCnet] Macerator setup [message #338167 is a reply to message #338166] Sun, 28 October 2018 08:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have a piece of flexible hose from the plumbing mounted to the tank to the macerator which is mounted the the frame rail.

That relieves much of the stress on the plumbing and the tank.


Dolph

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Wheeling, West Virginia

1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
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> On Oct 28, 2018, at 9:03 AM, Johnny Bridges via Gmclist wrote:
>
> I found the PO had mounted the macerator using only some rubber connections. Which failed. I mounted it to a floor rail, using two pieces of 1/32
> sheet metal sandwiched together. They have a small amount of flexibility, as does the rubber connection to the outlet pipe. There's a piece of PVC
> inside the rear bumber that the hose slides into. I may replace it with a longer hose and run it along the frame. When I get in from a trip, next
> day I run the water tank empty which pretty much fills the black tank. Run the coach up to the gas station and back - along a couple of short steep
> hills - and the pull the rear close to my dump and lower the airbags and let 'er rip. This seems to get the tank pretty empty.
>
> --johnny
> --
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Re: Macerator setup [message #338171 is a reply to message #338150] Sun, 28 October 2018 08:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Interestingly, mine came loose on the way home from a show. Held up by a scrap of rubber connector and the wiring. No skid marks on the unit, but I have to assume I dumped tank coming down I 75. Nobody honked or hollered....

--johnny


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Re: Macerator setup [message #338172 is a reply to message #338150] Sun, 28 October 2018 08:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Good info guys. Yikes, did not realize the black tank is not attached to the frame. At first read I had a image of my tank dropping off its mounts when traveling down the road. I know this is not true but still had the image.

So I guess I'm not clear how the hose in the conduit is connected to the hose coming from the pump? Or is it all one hose. Could be still thinking like the old dump hose where you disconnect it and rinse it before you put it back in storage.

Tom


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Re: Macerator setup [message #338173 is a reply to message #338150] Sun, 28 October 2018 09:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tom,
The macerator hose is not connected to the conduit. The conduit is fastened to the frame and is used as a storage space for the macerator hose.

See photo here:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/macerator-install/p52805-view-facing-forward.html

The macerator hose is permanently connected to the pump. The hose is pulled out of the conduit during dumping, then pushed back inside the conduit for storage. The conduit inner size is larger than the hose to permit easy removal and storage.

JWID



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Re: Macerator setup [message #338174 is a reply to message #338150] Sun, 28 October 2018 09:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ok got it Bruce, thanks. So do you just rinse out that hose as best as you can before storing it away? I always kept one end of the old dump hose in the dump hole and rinsed diwn the hose with the water hose they provide. Guess you just back rinse this hose when its finish dumping then?

Tom Geiger 76 Eleganza II KCMO
Re: Macerator setup [message #338176 is a reply to message #338150] Sun, 28 October 2018 09:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tom,
I use an agricultural grade 1" rubber hose. It is smooth on the inside so there is no ribs for stuff to catch on.

I do pick the hose up at the coach end, then continue to raise the hose along to the end to chase the remaining liquid out of the hose. Then I just stuff it back down the conduit for storage. There is likely to be far less stuff inside my small smooth hose than is left in most large slinky hoses even after a thorough cleaning.

JWID




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77PB, 455 Dick P. rebuilt, DynamicEFI EBL EFI & ESC.
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http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=29001
My Staff says I never listen to them, or something like that
Re: [GMCnet] Macerator setup [message #338180 is a reply to message #338171] Sun, 28 October 2018 11:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So many good jokes about this….. all cliche.

Johnny, we should have outgrown poop jokes by now, but hey!

I’m soooo happy that I don’t have to deal with the “stinky slinky”


Dolph

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“The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"

> On Oct 28, 2018, at 9:30 AM, Johnny Bridges via Gmclist wrote:
>
> Interestingly, mine came loose on the way home from a show. Held up by a scrap of rubber connector and the wiring. No skid marks on the unit, but I
> have to assume I dumped tank coming down I 75. Nobody honked or hollered....
>
> --johnny
> --
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Re: Macerator setup [message #338183 is a reply to message #338150] Sun, 28 October 2018 12:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh we all our stories in dealing with this stuff. Mine was a time when some friends we were camping with had pulled up and were trying to take a picture of me doing the big dump. I kept telling her she better not, but she kept clicking away with her phone, so I started shooting a water stream from my water hose I was using to rinse to which she paniced thinking it was turd wster and screamed at her driver to GO Go Go! They pealed out with gravel flying everywhere. God my stomache hurt from laughing so hard. Anyhow, will look foreard to this improvement!

Tom


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Re: [GMCnet] Macerator setup [message #338188 is a reply to message #338174] Sun, 28 October 2018 16:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I use industrial 3/4” hose with garden hose fittings, and screw a gasketed
brass cap on the end before sliding it into the PVC pipe I strapped under
the coach. Mine extends all the way to the angled strut under the front
clip—about 18 feet.

I pull it out, hold the end high, unscrew the cap, insert into dump
station, run macerator until empty, hold the hose high end again, replace
cap, and slide back into storage. That keeps the nasty stuff inside the
hose.

Rick “driving the coach down 81 this afternoon” Denney

On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 10:15 AM tom geiger wrote:

> Ok got it Bruce, thanks. So do you just rinse out that hose as best as you
> can before storing it away? I always kept one end of the old dump hose in
> the dump hole and rinsed diwn the hose with the water hose they provide.
> Guess you just back rinse this hose when its finish dumping then?
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Re: [GMCnet] Macerator setup [message #338200 is a reply to message #338151] Mon, 29 October 2018 11:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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About the same as what I have, except I use a 25 foot 3/4” garden hose with a 20 foot piece of 1-1/4” PVC alongside of the frame.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/macerator-and-storage-for-hose/p3559.htm

Emery Stora
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Frederick, CO

> On Oct 27, 2018, at 11:18 AM, Bruce Hislop wrote:
>
> Different people have different ways to store the macerator hose. I use a 10ft piece of PCV conduit fastened along the frame under the driver's side.
> I just pull it out when dumping and then push it back down the conduit when done. No winding and unwinding the hose. Takes less than 10 seconds to
> pull the hose out and about 20 seconds to put it back in.
>
> JWID
> --
> Bruce Hislop
> ON Canada
> 77PB, 455 Dick P. rebuilt, DynamicEFI EBL EFI & ESC.1 ton front end
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Re: [GMCnet] Macerator setup [message #338203 is a reply to message #338200] Mon, 29 October 2018 18:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Emery, your link shows a 404 error.

JerryW wrote on Mon, 29 October 2018 09:55
About the same as what I have, except I use a 25 foot 3/4" garden hose with a 20 foot piece of 1-1/4" PVC alongside of the frame.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/macerator-and-storage-for-hose/p3559.htm

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO

> On Oct 27, 2018, at 11:18 AM, Bruce Hislop wrote:
>
> Different people have different ways to store the macerator hose. I use a 10ft piece of PCV conduit fastened along the frame under the driver's side.
> I just pull it out when dumping and then push it back down the conduit when done. No winding and unwinding the hose. Takes less than 10 seconds to
> pull the hose out and about 20 seconds to put it back in.
>
> JWID
> --
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> ON Canada
> 77PB, 455 Dick P. rebuilt, DynamicEFI EBL EFI & ESC.1 ton front end
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I’ll send it again

Emery

> On Oct 29, 2018, at 5:13 PM, Jerry Burt wrote:
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> Emory, your link shows a 404 error.
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> JerryW wrote on Mon, 29 October 2018 09:55
>> About the same as what I have, except I use a 25 foot 3/4" garden hose with a 20 foot piece of 1-1/4" PVC alongside of the frame.
>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/macerator-and-storage-for-hose/p3559.htm
>>
>> Emery Stora
>> 77 Kingsley
>> Frederick, CO
>>
>>> On Oct 27, 2018, at 11:18 AM, Bruce Hislop wrote:
>>>
>>> Different people have different ways to store the macerator hose. I use a 10ft piece of PCV conduit fastened along the frame under the
>>> driver's side.
>>> I just pull it out when dumping and then push it back down the conduit when done. No winding and unwinding the hose. Takes less than 10
>>> seconds to
>>> pull the hose out and about 20 seconds to put it back in.
>>>
>>> JWID
>>> --
>>> Bruce Hislop
>>> ON Canada
>>> 77PB, 455 Dick P. rebuilt, DynamicEFI EBL EFI & ESC.1 ton front end
>>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=29001
>>> My Staff says I never listen to them, or something like that
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