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[GMCnet] radio noise [message #337779] Thu, 11 October 2018 08:02 Go to next message
Dean Hanson is currently offline  Dean Hanson   United States
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Bill;

I was having problems getting my rear battery to charge in the Avion and
thought I would have to run another isolated wire direct. Further
investigation found a 30 amp fuse that looked good was really burned out.
There is no noise from my converter but with the coached on shore power and
the new fuse plugged in, the rear speakers (with the radio off) both hum
like the sound of a battery charger. That drove me nuts until I found the
source. Something is in those speakers to make that happen.



Dean C. Hanson 75 Avion

Fremont, Ca. 94536

(510) 657-9600



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Re: [GMCnet] radio noise [message #337786 is a reply to message #337779] Thu, 11 October 2018 10:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bullitthead is currently offline  Bullitthead   United States
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Not in the speakers, in the amplifier connected to them. What you are hearing is the reverse leakage current through the transistor amplifier that powers those grounded speakers. Indicates a wave of AC current on the charge circuit or weak reverse voltage characteristics of the amplifier.

Terry Kelpien ASE Master Technician 73 Glacier 260 Smithfield, Va.
Re: [GMCnet] radio noise [message #337790 is a reply to message #337786] Thu, 11 October 2018 13:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
NextGenGMC is currently offline  NextGenGMC   United States
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I'm getting the same noise in all of my speakers. PO connected the stereo system to "Hot at all times" wire on the engine battery. Several times in the past my engine battery got drained completely (had to start using the booster battery circuit). I think the battery drain is related to the static noise in the speakers. For now, I just disconnected all of them and made a note in the "Fix this when you have time" list.
What is the best way to deal with this issue? Does it indicate a bad amplifier or the stereo system that needs to be replaced?


Vadim Jitkov '76 Glenbrook 26' Pullman, WA
Re: [GMCnet] radio noise [message #337795 is a reply to message #337790] Thu, 11 October 2018 15:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
k2gkk is currently offline  k2gkk   United States
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Many "12 V" devices in today's world are actually "HOT" all the time but are switched "ON" by internal circuitry. If one or more of those devices in the apparatus goes shorted (or even just leaky), it WILL drain the battery and fairly quickly, at that.

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I'm getting the same noise in all of my speakers. PO connected the stereo system to "Hot at all times" wire on the engine battery. Several times in
the past my engine battery got drained completely (had to start using the booster battery circuit). I think the battery drain is related to the
static noise in the speakers. For now, I just disconnected all of them and made a note in the "Fix this when you have time" list.
What is the best way to deal with this issue? Does it indicate a bad amplifier or the stereo system that needs to be replaced?
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Vadim Jitkov
'76 Glenbrook 26'
Pullman, WA

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Re: [GMCnet] radio noise [message #337797 is a reply to message #337795] Thu, 11 October 2018 16:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
NextGenGMC is currently offline  NextGenGMC   United States
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Do you know what is "acceptable" current bleed on a "typical" CD/Radio unit? My guess if it bleeds due to internal circuitry malfunction it will be above nominal stand-by amp flow.

Vadim Jitkov '76 Glenbrook 26' Pullman, WA
Re: [GMCnet] radio noise [message #337802 is a reply to message #337797] Thu, 11 October 2018 20:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bullitthead is currently offline  Bullitthead   United States
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Standby current needs to be less than 10 ma for a month long storage with enough power left over to start the engine. 20 ma will shorten that time to a week. YMMV, and weak batteries need not apply. Simple radios/cd players, etc. should be about 4 ma or less by themselves.

Terry Kelpien ASE Master Technician 73 Glacier 260 Smithfield, Va.
Re: [GMCnet] radio noise [message #337817 is a reply to message #337802] Fri, 12 October 2018 17:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In the current MFJ catalog, on page 32 are several choices for RFI suppression chokes. Looking at ham radio stuff again. They have a web site. Put 'rfi' in search block. Many different options, cheap enough to try. Any interest, I came bring some to International Rally in Florida.
Tom


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Re: [GMCnet] radio noise [message #337838 is a reply to message #337817] Sat, 13 October 2018 16:34 Go to previous message
tphipps is currently offline  tphipps   United States
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Check Amazon also. RF chokes are there, as well as RFI suppression.
Tom


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