| Front Axle Replacement (times two) [message #336632] |
Sun, 02 September 2018 10:16  |
LNelson
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I discovered that my drivers side outer boot was totally missing and my right side boot was torn. No symptoms of CV Joint failure but I ordered two complete axles from Applied. I inquired about the flange attach bolts and were told they were not included but that they would send them Priority. Have not received them yet and this was to be my weekend project.....anyway that is not the issue. Those bolts appear to have some sort of special head. Weird. Is that a head that has a socket available.....from someplace? I am going to step away from this until I hear from this Brain Trust  .
Thanks.
Larry Nelson Springfield, MO
Ex GMC'er, then GM Busnut
now '77 Eleganza ARS WB0JOT
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| Re: Front Axle Replacement (times two) [message #336636 is a reply to message #336632] |
Sun, 02 September 2018 11:17  |
Ken Burton
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Depending on the supplier of the bolts, OEM or aftermarket like MCMaster-Carr, that socket is either a 3/8" 12 point or a 7/16" 12 point socket. It should be in most 3/8" socket sets. I carry spare bolts and keep spare socket of the correct size in the same zip-lock bag.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Front Axle Replacement (times two) [message #336639 is a reply to message #336636] |
Sun, 02 September 2018 13:04 |
jimk
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We have the exact head size.
We find that if you clean the bolt and threads and use Blue Loc Tite on
them, and torque to spec. it will be good.
Problem with the one from McMaster is that the head is smaller and the
thread runs the full length.
Minor, but when the correct ones are available, it is good to use as when
one comes into our shop, we hate to search for another socket we never use.
On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 9:18 AM Ken Burton wrote:
> Depending on the supplier of the bolts, OEM or aftermarket like
> MCMaster-Carr, that socket is either a 3/8" 12 point or a 7/16" 12 point
> socket. It
> should be in most 3/8" socket sets. I carry spare bolts and keep spare
> socket of the correct size in the same zip-lock bag.
> --
> Ken Burton - N9KB
> 76 Palm Beach
> Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Front Axle Replacement (times two) [message #336643 is a reply to message #336639] |
Sun, 02 September 2018 13:53 |
LNelson
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Jim, I am just going by the book. I did order yours, just don't have them yet. I have determined that getting the old ones out are going to be most fun. I discovering that I might be too old to be scooting around on the floor under my coach. I have two of the bolts out and am now PB Blasting the rest of them. Yes, I did have the sockets, thanks Ken.
Larry Nelson Springfield, MO
Ex GMC'er, then GM Busnut
now '77 Eleganza ARS WB0JOT
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| Re: [GMCnet] Front Axle Replacement (times two) [message #336644 is a reply to message #336643] |
Sun, 02 September 2018 14:11 |
jimk
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I always use the 3/8 Long ratchet to give me more leverage.
A deep socket.
Sometimes use a close end wrenck and Hit it with a small mallet to break
loose the bolts.
Never hesitate to call me for help.
That is why we are the major supplier and have over 4,000 customer base.
On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 11:54 AM Larry Nelson
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> Jim, I am just going by the book. I did order yours, just don't have them
> yet. I have determined that getting the old ones out are going to be most
> fun. I discovering that I might be too old to be scooting around on the
> floor under my coach. I have two of the bolts out and am now PB Blasting the
> rest of them. Yes, I did have the sockets, thanks Ken.
> --
> Larry Nelson Springfield, MO
> Ex GMC'er, then GM Busnut
> now '77 Eleganza ARS WB0JOT
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| Re: [GMCnet] Front Axle Replacement (times two) [message #336646 is a reply to message #336643] |
Sun, 02 September 2018 14:28 |
Richard Denney
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Use a good quality socket and an 18” pipe on a good quality ratchet handle.
They are torqued to 65 ft-lbs—which slightly overstresses them (to my
thinking, for a reason)—so being stiff to turn does not mean they are
stuck.
Rick “give me along enough lever...” Denney
On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 2:54 PM Larry Nelson
wrote:
> Jim, I am just going by the book. I did order yours, just don't have them
> yet. I have determined that getting the old ones out are going to be most
> fun. I discovering that I might be too old to be scooting around on the
> floor under my coach. I have two of the bolts out and am now PB Blasting the
> rest of them. Yes, I did have the sockets, thanks Ken.
> --
> Larry Nelson Springfield, MO
> Ex GMC'er, then GM Busnut
> now '77 Eleganza ARS WB0JOT
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| Re: [GMCnet] Front Axle Replacement (times two) [message #336651 is a reply to message #336643] |
Sun, 02 September 2018 14:58 |
C Boyd
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Sir, with the front on stands with the tire off I use a 1/2" impact with 1/2" air hose and 2 long extensions on the socket. Make sure the socket and extensions are straight. Find a soft pad to sit on and Turn the axle to next bolt.
LNelson wrote on Sun, 02 September 2018 14:53Jim, I am just going by the book. I did order yours, just don't have them yet. I have determined that getting the old ones out are going to be most fun. I discovering that I might be too old to be scooting around on the floor under my coach. I have two of the bolts out and am now PB Blasting the rest of them. Yes, I did have the sockets, thanks Ken.
C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
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| Re: Front Axle Replacement (times two) [message #336653 is a reply to message #336632] |
Sun, 02 September 2018 15:10 |
jhbridges
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The ones I removed were not even hand tight so getting them out was easy. Theywere, however, shot from movement of the axle on the flange. I ran a thread chaser through the flanges, and replaced them with high strength caps screws (10+) from the local industrial supply place. The length was the same, heads the same diameter. I reused the special thick locks, daubed them with blue LocTite <tm> and set them to 60 ft - lbs. No further problems in two years and some several thousand miles.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: Front Axle Replacement (times two) [message #336731 is a reply to message #336653] |
Tue, 04 September 2018 15:29 |
LNelson
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I did get my RH axle off. I had boogered up one bolt so bad I was about ready to try the dreaded vice grips. Bob Burkitt emailed me with the suggestion to use an 11mm deep socket, that that socket will fit tighter than a 7/16" 12 point. The head was so damaged I had to tap it into place but that socket, a 14" breaker, and some sweat....finally got to see that bolt move.
I did have to pop the upper ball joint loose to get the old axle out. New axle is in place but I was too tired to wrestle with the axle, and the knuckle in order to poke the spline into the hub. Sometimes you have to step away and when you come back, things fall into place. (yeah, sure, THAT is going to happen). Also, I did my bag o' new bolts from Applied today....thanks to all.
Larry
Larry Nelson Springfield, MO
Ex GMC'er, then GM Busnut
now '77 Eleganza ARS WB0JOT
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| Re: Front Axle Replacement (times two) [message #336753 is a reply to message #336632] |
Wed, 05 September 2018 14:31 |
jhbridges
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I fought the driver's side axle going back for two or three hours, Zhookoff took less than five minutes, mostly getting in the ciach, and didn't get his hands dirty. Slipped right in. Tightened it up, been a year and some.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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