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[GMCnet] I've found the bath exhaust fans basiclly worthless. [message #335379] Thu, 19 July 2018 12:39 Go to next message
BobDunahugh is currently offline  BobDunahugh   United States
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The Royales, and GM completed coaches seem to have used that same fan. Since we've never traveled in the GM interior coach. Put the new Carrier roof A/C unit in the center opening. Then I'm putting in two Fan Tactic fan roof vents. One at the front, and then the other in at the rear. Wouldn't that negate the need for the bath fan vent. For our 78 Royale with the rear bath. I put in a maxx fan just outside the handicap wheelchair drive in bath. Bob Duahugh
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Re: [GMCnet] I've found the bath exhaust fans basiclly worthless. [message #335381 is a reply to message #335379] Thu, 19 July 2018 15:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bob,

couple things I can point out- original insulation sucks and the windows allow major heat gain into the coaches. So if you are dealing with a stock coach/stock insulation and stock windows, I am convinced that 2 A/C units are needed. My Coach has a new A/C in mid hole- and it can keep up pretty well. However, when it is 90+ and super humid, I am very happy I have the 2nd A/C to make the inside comfortable. I hope next year when I get window film on, the 2nd A/C can stay off.


the fantastic fan up front in mine, is usually a spring/fall item, or when we have no plug in. I do not rely on it at all.


Now the 14"x14" Bathroom fan I installed 2 years ago, I do not see how we lived without it. It has nothing to do with how much air it moves... The skylight effect it lets into into our side bath makes all the difference in the world. using it to dry off the wet bath, is only a minor bonus.

so with all your other updates you are doing to that 73, I would say installing a 14x14" fan in the bathroom should be on the top of the list.









Jon Roche 75 palm beach EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now. St. Cloud, MN http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
Re: [GMCnet] I've found the bath exhaust fans basiclly worthless. [message #335382 is a reply to message #335379] Thu, 19 July 2018 17:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bob,

I have a '73 x-CL with Fantastic Vent forward and aft and a 13.5 Penguin in the center.
As you can see I live in Florida but have no problems with either. The Fantastic Vents have
hoods from the company. While in storage (w/o power) I leave the hooded vents open along with
my stock round bathroom vent open and have no moisture problems. Hooked up to power, I can exhaust
air thru the bathroom and blow air in thru the two vent fans. Works for me.


jim galbavy
'73 x-CL ANNIE
Lake Mary, Fl
Re: [GMCnet] I've found the bath exhaust fans basiclly worthless. [message #335383 is a reply to message #335379] Thu, 19 July 2018 18:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bob, to answer your question, yes you could do away with the need for using the bathroom vent fan.
.... but I would still keep the working bath fan in place. Cheaper than taking it out and patching
the roof and bath interior ceiling. Besides, you never know if it would come in handy.

All that : Do get Fantastic Fan's vent hood covers. Installs in 5 minutes and worth every dime,
especially when the coach is in storage.

jim galbavy
'73 x-CL ANNIE
Lake Mary, FL
Re: [GMCnet] I've found the bath exhaust fans basiclly worthless. [message #335384 is a reply to message #335383] Thu, 19 July 2018 18:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bob, Some owners have removed the tiny bath fan and replaced it with standard 14 x 14 fans. The internal structure does allow this. Slope of the roof is a minor problem. Or, you can add a bigger fan.
Bath fan helps to vent moisture from bath out of the coach.
Tom


2012 Phoenix Cruiser model 2552 KA4CSG
Re: [GMCnet] I've found the bath exhaust fans basiclly worthless. [message #335385 is a reply to message #335383] Thu, 19 July 2018 19:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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G'day,

Why mess around with Fantastic Fans get a Maxx Fan - you can run them while you're driving down the road or in a downpour!

https://www.adventurerv.net/maxx-fan-maxxair-volt-ventilation-system-white-camper-p-1023.html

https://www.adventurerv.net/maxx-fan-maxxair-volt-ventilation-system-smoke-camper-p-1024.html

https://www.adventurerv.net/maxxfan-maxxair-ventilator-white-lid-remote-p-1676.html

https://www.adventurerv.net/maxxfan-maxxair-ventilator-smoke-lid-wremote-p-1677.html

https://www.adventurerv.net/maxxfan-ventilator-white-p-27208.html

https://www.adventurerv.net/maxxfan-manual-ventilator-smoke-p-27212.html

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Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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Re: [GMCnet] I've found the bath exhaust fans basiclly worthless. [message #335387 is a reply to message #335385] Thu, 19 July 2018 19:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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They don’t call it a fart fan for nothing. Need at least one functional fan
in the bathroom.

Sully
Bellevue

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 5:32 PM Rob Mueller wrote:

> G'day,
>
> Why mess around with Fantastic Fans get a Maxx Fan - you can run them
> while you're driving down the road or in a downpour!
>
>
> https://www.adventurerv.net/maxx-fan-maxxair-volt-ventilation-system-white-camper-p-1023.html
>
>
> https://www.adventurerv.net/maxx-fan-maxxair-volt-ventilation-system-smoke-camper-p-1024.html
>
>
> https://www.adventurerv.net/maxxfan-maxxair-ventilator-white-lid-remote-p-1676.html
>
>
> https://www.adventurerv.net/maxxfan-maxxair-ventilator-smoke-lid-wremote-p-1677.html
>
> https://www.adventurerv.net/maxxfan-ventilator-white-p-27208.html
>
> https://www.adventurerv.net/maxxfan-manual-ventilator-smoke-p-27212.html
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] I've found the bath exhaust fans basiclly worthless. [message #335404 is a reply to message #335379] Fri, 20 July 2018 00:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes Rob. I agree that the Maxx fan is a great unit. We put one in our 78 Royale that we travel in now. Got all their bells/whistles they offered on their fan. Cost has never played into what we put in that Royale. And have now got to about $41,000 in parts only in it. Like to put a MAXX Fan in this GMC that I'm putting together. But it comes down to cost on that GMC. And I've already gone overboard on it's cost. We will never use that GMC. I want to sell it before the Fall GMCMI event in Iowa. Bob Dunahugh


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Subject: I've found the bath exhaust fans basiclly worthless.


The Royales, and GM completed coaches seem to have used that same fan. Since we've never traveled in the GM interior coach. Put the new Carrier roof A/C unit in the center opening. Then I'm putting in two Fan Tactic fan roof vents. One at the front, and then the other in at the rear. Wouldn't that negate the need for the bath fan vent. For our 78 Royale with the rear bath. I put in a maxx fan just outside the handicap wheelchair drive in bath. Bob Duahugh
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Re: [GMCnet] I've found the bath exhaust fans basiclly worthless. [message #335406 is a reply to message #335385] Fri, 20 July 2018 07:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rob, by installing Fantastic Fans' factory hoods you end up with the same as
Maxx. The work well going down the road.

jim Galbavy
'73 x-CL ANNIE
Lake Mary, FL
Re: [GMCnet] I've found the bath exhaust fans basiclly worthless. [message #335412 is a reply to message #335379] Fri, 20 July 2018 08:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm with Sully. After an afternoon of fellowship, pickled eggs, and beer ventilation - preferably forced - is a necessity in the head.

--johnny


Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons. Braselton, Ga. I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
Re: [GMCnet] I've found the bath exhaust fans basiclly worthless. [message #335413 is a reply to message #335404] Fri, 20 July 2018 08:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Bob,

Did you check each of the links I provided?

I sent links to every Maxx fan available and IIRC one of them was $190 can you get a Fantastic fan for less?

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808



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From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Bob Dunahugh
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 12:36 AM
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] I've found the bath exhaust fans basiclly worthless.

Yes Rob. I agree that the Maxx fan is a great unit. We put one in our 78 Royale that we travel in now. Got all their bells/whistles
they offered on their fan. Cost has never played into what we put in that Royale. And have now got to about $41,000 in parts only in
it. Like to put a MAXX Fan in this GMC that I'm putting together. But it comes down to cost on that GMC. And I've already gone
overboard on it's cost. We will never use that GMC. I want to sell it before the Fall GMCMI event in Iowa. Bob Dunahugh



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Re: [GMCnet] I've found the bath exhaust fans basiclly worthless. [message #335415 is a reply to message #335406] Fri, 20 July 2018 08:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jim,

Not really:

1) The Maxx fan folds down and is nice looking, the Fantastic fan cover sticks up like a wart on the roof.

2) The Maxx fan with the smoke cover lets in light, I doubt as much light will get through the smoke Fantastic fan factory hood and
a Fantastic fan with a smoke cover.

3) The Fantastic fan with a hood is open on one end, if you have a rain storm with wind that is coming at the open end it will blow
in that end and get in your coach. The inlet to the Maxx fan faces the roof and I reckon it will be damn near impossible to get in
no matter how windy it is.

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808


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Rob, by installing Fantastic Fans' factory hoods you end up with the same as
Maxx. The work well going down the road.

jim Galbavy
'73 x-CL ANNIE
Lake Mary, FL

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Re: [GMCnet] I've found the bath exhaust fans basiclly worthless. [message #335416 is a reply to message #335379] Fri, 20 July 2018 09:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The stock fan or stock replacement fan moves a lot of air for the size of room. Put your hand down ny the door threshold and feel how much make up air comes in. As does the cold draft on your feet when showering. Without supplying some additional source of make up air I see no reason to try to increase exhaust air. When you open the door the RPM on the fan drops (moving more air) showing it is allready restricted with the door shut. The added light of the skylite is nice though. But I rarely turn on more than one bulb per side on OE lighting.

John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
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[GMCnet] What's going into/why this GMC that I'm going to sell [message #335420 is a reply to message #335404] Fri, 20 July 2018 10:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rob. I found 2 basic Fantastic fans for $124 each. If I could expect to get over $35,000 to $40,000 for this GMC when completed. And was a Royale. Then I would put the best MAXX fans in at $390 each. I'm going to sell this GMC in the $20,000, to $25,000 range. All new appliances, Roof A/C, frig, furnace, cook top,12V converter, all seats/cushions redone, entire interior taken out to be redone down to the last board, head liner, carpet, walnut wall paneling, all LED lighting controlled by wall switches, exhaust, all brake/wheel bearings, 78 rear suspention, timing chain, tires/rims, new Howell EFI, gas tanks, fuel lines, 2 fuel pumps, rear disc brakes, and it has a decent paint job. This list is only the bigger items. Go find a GMC like this in that price range. As to labor. I like building things. Now I need to be looking for a buyer. Bob Dunahugh


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Yes Rob. I agree that the Maxx fan is a great unit. We put one in our 78 Royale that we travel in now. Got all their bells/whistles they offered on their fan. Cost has never played into what we put in that Royale. And have now got to about $41,000 in parts only in it. Like to put a MAXX Fan in this GMC that I'm putting together. But it comes down to cost on that GMC. And I've already gone overboard on it's cost. We will never use that GMC. I want to sell it before the Fall GMCMI event in Iowa. Bob Dunahugh

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Re: [GMCnet] What's going into/why this GMC that I'm going to sell [message #335424 is a reply to message #335420] Fri, 20 July 2018 10:58 Go to previous message
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Will be done before Amana in Sept. And will be there for sale. Bob


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Rob. I found 2 basic Fantastic fans for $124 each. If I could expect to get over $35,000 to $40,000 for this GMC when completed. And was a Royale. Then I would put the best MAXX fans in at $390 each. I'm going to sell this GMC in the $20,000, to $25,000 range. All new appliances, Roof A/C, frig, furnace, cook top,12V converter, all seats/cushions redone, entire interior taken out to be redone down to the last board, head liner, carpet, walnut wall paneling, all LED lighting controlled by wall switches, exhaust, all brake/wheel bearings, 78 rear suspention, timing chain, tires/rims, new Howell EFI, gas tanks, fuel lines, 2 fuel pumps, rear disc brakes, and it has a decent paint job. This list is only the bigger items. Go find a GMC like this in that price range. As to labor. I like building things. Now I need to be looking for a buyer. Bob Dunahugh


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Subject: RE: I've found the bath exhaust fans basiclly worthless.


Yes Rob. I agree that the Maxx fan is a great unit. We put one in our 78 Royale that we travel in now. Got all their bells/whistles they offered on their fan. Cost has never played into what we put in that Royale. And have now got to about $41,000 in parts only in it. Like to put a MAXX Fan in this GMC that I'm putting together. But it comes down to cost on that GMC. And I've already gone overboard on it's cost. We will never use that GMC. I want to sell it before the Fall GMCMI event in Iowa. Bob Dunahugh

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