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Dave Stragand
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So it turns out that I have a '17058253' carburetor, which appears to be a for a 77-79 BOP car 403. It's a car carb, so I will replace it with a '17038254' or EFI. The distributor is the correct 1103267.
Funny -- when I opened the hatch I immediately spotted a big snake that was curled around the carb. I took a video as I removed the air cleaner. He went around the back of the carb then curled up around the fan clutch, where the curious little guy stayed watching me very intently. He appeared to be much more interested in GMC repair than my friends and family, so I explained Quadrajets to him while I worked.
Even when I spun the fan around to try to get him to go down from the engine, he kept coming back up to watch me for almost the whole time. I say almost, as when I was trying to photograph the part number on the distributor, he came back up over the top of the engine, right over my arm, back around the carb -- staring at me the whole time -- then zipped up the radiator hose out of sight. I think he may have gone into my airbox, as the fan resistor is out at the moment, so I'll have to pull the fan out and make sure he doesn't get stuck in there.
I don't mind snakes at all, but I did find it very unusual that he seemed so unafraid. I looked up PA snakes and it seems to be a copperhead! Can any of you GMC'ers ID a snake from a video and a couple of pics? I don't mind if he stays around eating mice, but I will have to remain vigilant that he might be hiding somewhere, and to open the hatch to check for him before I start the engine.
-Dave
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| Re: [GMCnet] Carburetor and distributor ID'ed, but not the snake,.. [message #334065 is a reply to message #334064] |
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Dave Stragand wrote on Tue, 26 June 2018 20:27So it turns out that I have a '17058253' carburetor, which appears to be a for a 77-79 BOP car 403. It's a car carb, so I will replace it with a '17038254' or EFI. The distributor is the correct 1103267.
Funny -- when I opened the hatch I immediately spotted a big snake that was curled around the carb. I took a video as I removed the air cleaner. He went around the back of the carb then curled up around the fan clutch, where the curious little guy stayed watching me very intently. He appeared to be much more interested in GMC repair than my friends and family, so I explained Quadrajets to him while I worked.
Even when I spun the fan around to try to get him to go down from the engine, he kept coming back up to watch me for almost the whole time. I say almost, as when I was trying to photograph the part number on the distributor, he came back up over the top of the engine, right over my arm, back around the carb -- staring at me the whole time -- then zipped up the radiator hose out of sight. I think he may have gone into my airbox, as the fan resistor is out at the moment, so I'll have to pull the fan out and make sure he doesn't get stuck in there.
I don't mind snakes at all, but I did find it very unusual that he seemed so unafraid. I looked up PA snakes and it seems to be a copperhead! Can any of you GMC'ers ID a snake from a video and a couple of pics? I don't mind if he stays around eating mice, but I will have to remain vigilant that he might be hiding somewhere, and to open the hatch to check for him before I start the engine.
ohh man! sounds like a close call. not familiar with PA but copperheads and water snakes in the S.E. look very similar but the copperheads are short and fat, the water snakes are long and slim.
they are both very fast movers when its hot. the copperheads stay their spot, the water snakes usually do not and flee quickly.
copper heads are very strong too so if you try to catch it and then hold it by squeezing his neck you better have a death grip on it! I learned this first hand (gloved thankfully)
Edit to add: oh yeah, the CH has cat eyes, the WS has round pupils.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Carburetor and distributor ID'ed, but not the snake, .. [message #334068 is a reply to message #334067] |
Tue, 26 June 2018 21:43 |
Rob
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Not a good place to be during startup!
Rob
Victoria, BC
76 Royale - Rear Twins/Dry Bath
> On Jun 26, 2018, at 7:34 PM, Dave Stragand wrote:
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> Thanks for the links. I still can't tell, though. Sure seems to have the head shape and the markings. It's a little bit confusing on the video as for the first part he is moving backwards and under the carb linkage, then he loops around the back of the carb and around the fan. His return trip was the opposite.
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> http://www.forwardlook.net/images/GMC/IMG_3939.MOV
> http://www.forwardlook.net/images/GMC/IMG_3940.jpg
> http://www.forwardlook.net/images/GMC/IMG_3941.jpg
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> -Dave
> 1978 SnakeMode near PitVipersBurg
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| Re: [GMCnet] Carburetor and distributor ID'ed, but not the snake, .. [message #334070 is a reply to message #334068] |
Tue, 26 June 2018 22:30 |
Dave Stragand
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He hissed that he could sell me something that would make the engine run smoother, but I think it was just some kind of snake oil...
But seriously, I'd hate for the poor guy to get caught up in there. I had a neighbor who got a groundhog all caught up in the belts of his Peugeot 505 and asked me to come over and help because I "knew cars". That poor creature was screaming in pain but was still able to run away after I cut the belt to get him free.
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Not a good place to be during startup!
Rob
Victoria, BC
76 Royale - Rear Twins/Dry Bath
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| Re: [GMCnet] Carburetor and distributor ID'ed, but not the snake,.. [message #334079 is a reply to message #334064] |
Wed, 27 June 2018 07:07 |
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From what I see of the head, you have what we call a rat suh-nake or a corn snake. I can't see closely enough, if the head appears triangular and pulls in for the neck and there's a dimple behind each eye, you have a copperhead, which you should dispatch before you get bit. The reason he's there is the engine holds the day's heat from yesterday and he's keeping warm.
I've a black snake which resides in the back yard and shop at times. I seldom see him but I allow his presence because he thinks other snakes - we have copperheads and rattling snakes here in the hills - are delicious.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: [GMCnet] Carburetor and distributor ID'ed, but not the snake, .. [message #334085 is a reply to message #334067] |
Wed, 27 June 2018 10:16 |
Richard Denney
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Looks like an eastern rat snake, which has the diamond markings as a
juvenile and becomes black on top and up to six feet long as an adult. Also
known as a black snake. Not poisonous, but can still carry rabies and the
like. Generally safe, and they eat mice. Any non-poisonous snake that eats
mice can be my friend, but I don’t want him in the engine compartment or
interior of any of my vehicles.
And the Redhead can become an ICBM upon a snake encounter.
Rick “who has been required to dispatch a couple of them” Denney
On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 10:34 PM Dave Stragand <
dave.stragand@forwardlook.net> wrote:
> Thanks for the links. I still can't tell, though. Sure seems to have the
> head shape and the markings. It's a little bit confusing on the video as
> for the first part he is moving backwards and under the carb linkage, then
> he loops around the back of the carb and around the fan. His return trip
> was the opposite.
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> http://www.forwardlook.net/images/GMC/IMG_3939.MOV
> http://www.forwardlook.net/images/GMC/IMG_3940.jpg
> http://www.forwardlook.net/images/GMC/IMG_3941.jpg
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> -Dave
> 1978 SnakeMode near PitVipersBurg
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| Re: [GMCnet] Carburetor and distributor ID'ed, but not the snake,.. [message #334087 is a reply to message #334079] |
Wed, 27 June 2018 10:34 |
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Laurie had one here two summers ago in the back yard that she put 17 rounds of .22 into. Why 17 rounds? Because that is what the magazine on that particular rifle holds. I'm just happy that she did not use my 10-22 with a 50 round or my mini-14 with a 50 round magazine. All of these solutions were definitely over kill for one snake.
Ken Burton - N9KB
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| Re: [GMCnet] Carburetor and distributor ID'ed, but not the snake,.. [message #334092 is a reply to message #334064] |
Wed, 27 June 2018 12:43 |
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Definitely non-poisonous. Try to shoo away or catch it, but keep it around the house. They do come in handy.
Scott Nutter
1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final drive, Quad bags, Dave Lenzi super duty mid axle disc brakes, tankless water heater, everything Lenzi. Alex Ferrera installed MSD Atomic EFI
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| Re: [GMCnet] Carburetor and distributor ID'ed, but not the snake, .. [message #334100 is a reply to message #334092] |
Wed, 27 June 2018 14:10 |
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I'll be sure to send you any of them I encounter. (Grin) I have a very
efficient cat that leaves me mouse "treasures" nearly every day.
Jim Hupy
On Wed, Jun 27, 2018, 10:54 AM Scott Nutter wrote:
> Definitely non-poisonous. Try to shoo away or catch it, but keep it
> around the house. They do come in handy.
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> Scott Nutter
> 1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final
> drive, Quad bags, tankless water heater, everything Lenzi. Alex Ferrera
> installed MSD Atomic EFI
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| Re: [GMCnet] Carburetor and distributor ID'ed, but not the snake,.. [message #334127 is a reply to message #334064] |
Wed, 27 June 2018 23:08 |
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Ok ok ok......
You got me there.... but cats. OMG!!!
Scott Nutter
1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final drive, Quad bags, Dave Lenzi super duty mid axle disc brakes, tankless water heater, everything Lenzi. Alex Ferrera installed MSD Atomic EFI
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Wed, 27 June 2018 23:53 |
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Triangular head: better off dead. Oval head: just needs to be fed. None are welcome in any of the vehicles or dwellings. Chase them away in close quarters with a compressed air extension wand and outside move them back to the woods with the leaf blower. Much more entertaining than trying to pick the friendly ones up with the garden rake.
Terry Kelpien
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| Re: [GMCnet] Carburetor and distributor ID'ed, but not the snake, .. [message #334144 is a reply to message #334134] |
Thu, 28 June 2018 14:26 |
Dave Stragand
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Yes, I saw him again when I opened the hatch, and that’s why I took the video this time.
I didn’t know he was hiding inside of the air cleaner last month, though. Really startled me when he came out of the air horn and out across the floor. Saw him again by the batteries a week ago, too.
I give him proper respect and admiration as he apparently full-times in a GMC motorhome, and we can all agree that’s a pretty awesome lifestyle. :-)
> On Jun 28, 2018, at 9:22 AM, Justin Brady wrote:
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> My question is did you already know it was there when you took the video?
> If I took my air cleaner off and there was a snake underneath there would be some very choice language and probably a very entertaining fall off the
> cockpit steps to watch.
> --
> Justin Brady
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