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Cabinet Rivnuts [message #333394] |
Tue, 12 June 2018 10:03 |
jknezek
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I'm pulling down my cabinets to wire a new AC unit to the front hole. The last time the cabinets came down, I realized 2 of the bolts, one in each cabinet, was not pulling tight. I want to pop in some rivnuts and I think I need 1/4"-14 but can't seem to find that size anywhere. Anybody know off the top of their heads the correct rivnut size? Otherwise I guess I'll just pick up new bolts to match 1/4"-20 which seems a common size.
Thanks,
Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
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Re: Cabinet Rivnuts [message #333405 is a reply to message #333394] |
Tue, 12 June 2018 10:58 |
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Matt Colie
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jknezek wrote on Tue, 12 June 2018 11:03I'm pulling down my cabinets to wire a new AC unit to the front hole. The last time the cabinets came down, I realized 2 of the bolts, one in each cabinet, was not pulling tight. I want to pop in some rivnuts and I think I need 1/4"-14 but can't seem to find that size anywhere. Anybody know off the top of their heads the correct rivnut size? Otherwise I guess I'll just pick up new bolts to match 1/4"-20 which seems a common size.
Jeremy,
Replacing rivnuts is usually a bear. They don't like to be removed, but!!!
It seems that they get loose with vibration.
They can often be re-tightened.
You need a screw (bolt) with a lot of thread, a spacer to get clear of the ceiling, a washer and another 1/4-20 nut.
If you can get hardware that is Grade 8, get that.
Put some good grease on the washer and the threads of the long screw.
Put the nut, washer and spacer on the long screw so that there is at least 1/2" of thread open.
Now, thread that all into the overhead rivnut.
Holding the head of the long screw, wrench the nut down until the whole thing gets solid.
I've actually done this more than a few times, but my 73 has self drill screws for the overhead stuff.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
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Re: [GMCnet] Cabinet Rivnuts [message #333406 is a reply to message #333394] |
Tue, 12 June 2018 10:49 |
Ken Henderson
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Jeremy,
1/4"-14 is a self-tapping screw size; I'm sure you don't want that.
1/4"-20 is much more likely for those machine screws -- or 1/4"-28 if
they're National Fine threads (unlikely).
Ken H.
On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 11:12 AM Jeremy wrote:
> I'm pulling down my cabinets to wire a new AC unit to the front hole. The
> last time the cabinets came down, I realized 2 of the bolts, one in each
> cabinet, was not pulling tight. I want to pop in some rivnuts and I think
> I need 1/4"-14 but can't seem to find that size anywhere. Anybody know off
> the top of their heads the correct rivnut size? Otherwise I guess I'll
> just pick up new bolts to match 1/4"-20 which seems a common size.
> --
> Thanks,
> Jeremy Knezek
> 1976 Glenbrook
> Birmingham, AL
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Re: Cabinet Rivnuts [message #333412 is a reply to message #333405] |
Tue, 12 June 2018 12:28 |
jknezek
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Matt Colie wrote on Tue, 12 June 2018 11:58jknezek wrote on Tue, 12 June 2018 11:03I'm pulling down my cabinets to wire a new AC unit to the front hole. The last time the cabinets came down, I realized 2 of the bolts, one in each cabinet, was not pulling tight. I want to pop in some rivnuts and I think I need 1/4"-14 but can't seem to find that size anywhere. Anybody know off the top of their heads the correct rivnut size? Otherwise I guess I'll just pick up new bolts to match 1/4"-20 which seems a common size.
Jeremy,
Replacing rivnuts is usually a bear. They don't like to be removed, but!!!
It seems that they get loose with vibration.
They can often be re-tightened.
You need a screw (bolt) with a lot of thread, a spacer to get clear of the ceiling, a washer and another 1/4-20 nut.
If you can get hardware that is Grade 8, get that.
Put some good grease on the washer and the threads of the long screw.
Put the nut, washer and spacer on the long screw so that there is at least 1/2" of thread open.
Now, thread that all into the overhead rivnut.
Holding the head of the long screw, wrench the nut down until the whole thing gets solid.
I've actually done this more than a few times, but my 73 has self drill screws for the overhead stuff.
Matt
Mine aren't loose so much as they are stripped. Retightening won't solve the problem. The bolt just slides in and out for 2 of the overhead connections.
Thanks,
Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
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Re: [GMCnet] Cabinet Rivnuts [message #333413 is a reply to message #333406] |
Tue, 12 June 2018 12:29 |
jknezek
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Ken Henderson wrote on Tue, 12 June 2018 11:49Jeremy,
1/4"-14 is a self-tapping screw size; I'm sure you don't want that.
1/4"-20 is much more likely for those machine screws -- or 1/4"-28 if
they're National Fine threads (unlikely).
Ken H.
On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 11:12 AM Jeremy wrote:
> I'm pulling down my cabinets to wire a new AC unit to the front hole. The
> last time the cabinets came down, I realized 2 of the bolts, one in each
> cabinet, was not pulling tight. I want to pop in some rivnuts and I think
> I need 1/4"-14 but can't seem to find that size anywhere. Anybody know off
> the top of their heads the correct rivnut size? Otherwise I guess I'll
> just pick up new bolts to match 1/4"-20 which seems a common size.
> --
> Thanks,
> Jeremy Knezek
> 1976 Glenbrook
> Birmingham, AL
>
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Thanks Ken. Pretty sure they aren't fine threads so I'm going to try -20. Smart thing is just to take one of the bolts over to the local Big Box and use their test template, but I'm pretty sure all you guys are right and that it is -20.
Thanks,
Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
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Re: [GMCnet] Cabinet Rivnuts [message #333421 is a reply to message #333413] |
Tue, 12 June 2018 15:41 |
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USAussie
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Jeremy,
I have used these rivnuts from McMaster-Carr:
https://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-rivet-nuts/=1d98k6o
Here's a photo of the tool I made to pull them:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6419-rivet-nuts-for-plastic.html
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
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Thanks Ken. Pretty sure they aren't fine threads so I'm going to try -20. Smart thing is just to take one of the bolts over to the
local Big Box and use their test template, but I'm pretty sure all you guys are right and that it is -20.
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Thanks,
Jeremy Knezek
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Rob M. (USAussie)
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'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
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