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Cabinet Rivnuts [message #333394] Tue, 12 June 2018 10:03 Go to next message
jknezek is currently offline  jknezek   United States
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I'm pulling down my cabinets to wire a new AC unit to the front hole. The last time the cabinets came down, I realized 2 of the bolts, one in each cabinet, was not pulling tight. I want to pop in some rivnuts and I think I need 1/4"-14 but can't seem to find that size anywhere. Anybody know off the top of their heads the correct rivnut size? Otherwise I guess I'll just pick up new bolts to match 1/4"-20 which seems a common size.

Thanks,
Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
Re: [GMCnet] Cabinet Rivnuts [message #333396 is a reply to message #333394] Tue, 12 June 2018 10:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yep, 1/4" -20 it is.


On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 10:03 AM, Jeremy wrote:

> I'm pulling down my cabinets to wire a new AC unit to the front hole. The
> last time the cabinets came down, I realized 2 of the bolts, one in each
> cabinet, was not pulling tight. I want to pop in some rivnuts and I think
> I need 1/4"-14 but can't seem to find that size anywhere. Anybody know off
> the top of their heads the correct rivnut size? Otherwise I guess I'll
> just pick up new bolts to match 1/4"-20 which seems a common size.
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Cabinet Rivnuts [message #333398 is a reply to message #333396] Tue, 12 June 2018 10:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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bdub wrote on Tue, 12 June 2018 11:21
Yep, 1/4" -20 it is.




Thanks. Appreciate it!


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Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
Re: Cabinet Rivnuts [message #333405 is a reply to message #333394] Tue, 12 June 2018 10:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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jknezek wrote on Tue, 12 June 2018 11:03
I'm pulling down my cabinets to wire a new AC unit to the front hole. The last time the cabinets came down, I realized 2 of the bolts, one in each cabinet, was not pulling tight. I want to pop in some rivnuts and I think I need 1/4"-14 but can't seem to find that size anywhere. Anybody know off the top of their heads the correct rivnut size? Otherwise I guess I'll just pick up new bolts to match 1/4"-20 which seems a common size.

Jeremy,

Replacing rivnuts is usually a bear. They don't like to be removed, but!!!
It seems that they get loose with vibration.
They can often be re-tightened.

You need a screw (bolt) with a lot of thread, a spacer to get clear of the ceiling, a washer and another 1/4-20 nut.
If you can get hardware that is Grade 8, get that.
Put some good grease on the washer and the threads of the long screw.
Put the nut, washer and spacer on the long screw so that there is at least 1/2" of thread open.
Now, thread that all into the overhead rivnut.
Holding the head of the long screw, wrench the nut down until the whole thing gets solid.

I've actually done this more than a few times, but my 73 has self drill screws for the overhead stuff.

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] Cabinet Rivnuts [message #333406 is a reply to message #333394] Tue, 12 June 2018 10:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jeremy,

1/4"-14 is a self-tapping screw size; I'm sure you don't want that.
1/4"-20 is much more likely for those machine screws -- or 1/4"-28 if
they're National Fine threads (unlikely).

Ken H.


On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 11:12 AM Jeremy wrote:

> I'm pulling down my cabinets to wire a new AC unit to the front hole. The
> last time the cabinets came down, I realized 2 of the bolts, one in each
> cabinet, was not pulling tight. I want to pop in some rivnuts and I think
> I need 1/4"-14 but can't seem to find that size anywhere. Anybody know off
> the top of their heads the correct rivnut size? Otherwise I guess I'll
> just pick up new bolts to match 1/4"-20 which seems a common size.
> --
> Thanks,
> Jeremy Knezek
> 1976 Glenbrook
> Birmingham, AL
>
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Re: Cabinet Rivnuts [message #333412 is a reply to message #333405] Tue, 12 June 2018 12:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Matt Colie wrote on Tue, 12 June 2018 11:58
jknezek wrote on Tue, 12 June 2018 11:03
I'm pulling down my cabinets to wire a new AC unit to the front hole. The last time the cabinets came down, I realized 2 of the bolts, one in each cabinet, was not pulling tight. I want to pop in some rivnuts and I think I need 1/4"-14 but can't seem to find that size anywhere. Anybody know off the top of their heads the correct rivnut size? Otherwise I guess I'll just pick up new bolts to match 1/4"-20 which seems a common size.

Jeremy,

Replacing rivnuts is usually a bear. They don't like to be removed, but!!!
It seems that they get loose with vibration.
They can often be re-tightened.

You need a screw (bolt) with a lot of thread, a spacer to get clear of the ceiling, a washer and another 1/4-20 nut.
If you can get hardware that is Grade 8, get that.
Put some good grease on the washer and the threads of the long screw.
Put the nut, washer and spacer on the long screw so that there is at least 1/2" of thread open.
Now, thread that all into the overhead rivnut.
Holding the head of the long screw, wrench the nut down until the whole thing gets solid.

I've actually done this more than a few times, but my 73 has self drill screws for the overhead stuff.

Matt


Mine aren't loose so much as they are stripped. Retightening won't solve the problem. The bolt just slides in and out for 2 of the overhead connections.


Thanks,
Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
Re: [GMCnet] Cabinet Rivnuts [message #333413 is a reply to message #333406] Tue, 12 June 2018 12:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ken Henderson wrote on Tue, 12 June 2018 11:49
Jeremy,

1/4"-14 is a self-tapping screw size; I'm sure you don't want that.
1/4"-20 is much more likely for those machine screws -- or 1/4"-28 if
they're National Fine threads (unlikely).

Ken H.


On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 11:12 AM Jeremy wrote:

> I'm pulling down my cabinets to wire a new AC unit to the front hole. The
> last time the cabinets came down, I realized 2 of the bolts, one in each
> cabinet, was not pulling tight. I want to pop in some rivnuts and I think
> I need 1/4"-14 but can't seem to find that size anywhere. Anybody know off
> the top of their heads the correct rivnut size? Otherwise I guess I'll
> just pick up new bolts to match 1/4"-20 which seems a common size.
> --
> Thanks,
> Jeremy Knezek
> 1976 Glenbrook
> Birmingham, AL
>
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Thanks Ken. Pretty sure they aren't fine threads so I'm going to try -20. Smart thing is just to take one of the bolts over to the local Big Box and use their test template, but I'm pretty sure all you guys are right and that it is -20.


Thanks,
Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
Re: [GMCnet] Cabinet Rivnuts [message #333421 is a reply to message #333413] Tue, 12 June 2018 15:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jeremy,

I have used these rivnuts from McMaster-Carr:

https://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-rivet-nuts/=1d98k6o

Here's a photo of the tool I made to pull them:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6419-rivet-nuts-for-plastic.html

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
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Thanks Ken. Pretty sure they aren't fine threads so I'm going to try -20. Smart thing is just to take one of the bolts over to the
local Big Box and use their test template, but I'm pretty sure all you guys are right and that it is -20.
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Thanks,
Jeremy Knezek


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Re: Cabinet Rivnuts [message #333445 is a reply to message #333394] Wed, 13 June 2018 11:16 Go to previous message
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Thanks Matt. Very helpful!

Thanks,
Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
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