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| [GMCnet] 23' Heater Hoses [message #333226] |
Fri, 08 June 2018 09:32  |
Ken Henderson
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Yep, those 20 year old water heater hoses I just felt of are pretty hard.
Time to replace them. I know one of the engine heater hoses is 3/4" and
the other 5/8". What I don't know is their lengths. Nor do I know the
diameter of the hoses to & from the water heater, nor their lengths needed
to reach from the engine connections back to the water heater (just behind
the 23' GMC's entry door). Does anyone have those dimensions handy?
Thanks for your help saving me from buying excess hose.
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL,
Manny Brakes & 1-Ton, Troy-Bilt APU, etc., etc., etc.
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| Re: [GMCnet] 23' Heater Hoses [message #333235 is a reply to message #333226] |
Fri, 08 June 2018 13:49  |
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Why not remove it then buy it? You will probably end up needing some clamps
and couplers as well which you won’t know about prior to removal.
Sully
Coachless
Bellevue
On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 7:33 AM Ken Henderson wrote:
> Yep, those 20 year old water heater hoses I just felt of are pretty hard.
> Time to replace them. I know one of the engine heater hoses is 3/4" and
> the other 5/8". What I don't know is their lengths. Nor do I know the
> diameter of the hoses to & from the water heater, nor their lengths needed
> to reach from the engine connections back to the water heater (just behind
> the 23' GMC's entry door). Does anyone have those dimensions handy?
>
> Thanks for your help saving me from buying excess hose.
>
> Ken H.
> Americus, GA
> '76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL,
> Manny Brakes & 1-Ton, Troy-Bilt APU, etc., etc., etc.
> www.gmcwipersetc.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] 23' Heater Hoses [message #333237 is a reply to message #333235] |
Fri, 08 June 2018 14:17 |
Ken Henderson
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It's generally best in our little town to get everything on hand before
tearing things down, else we're liable to come up short something.
Ken H.
On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 2:50 PM Todd Sullivan wrote:
> Why not remove it then buy it? You will probably end up needing some clamps
> and couplers as well which you won’t know about prior to removal.
>
> Sully
> Coachless
> Bellevue
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> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 7:33 AM Ken Henderson
> wrote:
>
>> Yep, those 20 year old water heater hoses I just felt of are pretty hard.
>> Time to replace them. I know one of the engine heater hoses is 3/4" and
>> the other 5/8". What I don't know is their lengths. Nor do I know the
>> diameter of the hoses to & from the water heater, nor their lengths
> needed
>> to reach from the engine connections back to the water heater (just
> behind
>> the 23' GMC's entry door). Does anyone have those dimensions handy?
>>
>> Thanks for your help saving me from buying excess hose.
>>
>> Ken H.
>> Americus, GA
>> '76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL,
>> Manny Brakes & 1-Ton, Troy-Bilt APU, etc., etc., etc.
>> www.gmcwipersetc.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] 23' Heater Hoses [message #333247 is a reply to message #333245] |
Fri, 08 June 2018 19:39 |
jimk
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DO NOT pull the hose out!!!!!!
DUCT TAPE the new hose to the old and pull it through.
On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 4:55 PM, Matt Colie wrote:
> Ken Henderson wrote on Fri, 08 June 2018 15:17
>> It's generally best in our little town to get everything on hand before
>> tearing things down, else we're liable to come up short something.
>>
>> Ken H.
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>
> Ken,
>
> Your 23 is different than my 23 by years and more. But, when I did this
> years ago, I was advised by those here to just
> "Buy the Box" (50) of hose. I think I ended up with about 6 feet in
> surplus. That was covered by the per/ft vs box cost.
> The only thing I was not advised of was the need of the things that I do
> not remember the name of (I will look tomorrow)
> spring like things that allow tight bends without the hose pinching
> closed.
>
> Matt
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| Re: [GMCnet] 23' Heater Hoses [message #333248 is a reply to message #333247] |
Fri, 08 June 2018 20:04 |
Bruce Hart
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Stitch the new hose to old hose with wire and than duct tape.
If this hose has not ben replaced before try twisting the hose
as you pull it out to break away from the sprayed on insulation.
On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 6:39 PM, Jim Kanomata wrote:
> DO NOT pull the hose out!!!!!!
> DUCT TAPE the new hose to the old and pull it through.
>
> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 4:55 PM, Matt Colie wrote:
>
>> Ken Henderson wrote on Fri, 08 June 2018 15:17
>>> It's generally best in our little town to get everything on hand before
>>> tearing things down, else we're liable to come up short something.
>>>
>>> Ken H.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ken,
>>
>> Your 23 is different than my 23 by years and more. But, when I did this
>> years ago, I was advised by those here to just
>> "Buy the Box" (50) of hose. I think I ended up with about 6 feet in
>> surplus. That was covered by the per/ft vs box cost.
>> The only thing I was not advised of was the need of the things that I do
>> not remember the name of (I will look tomorrow)
>> spring like things that allow tight bends without the hose pinching
>> closed.
>>
>> Matt
>> --
>> Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
>> Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
>> OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
>> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] 23' Heater Hoses [message #333251 is a reply to message #333248] |
Fri, 08 June 2018 21:58 |
Ken Henderson
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I carefully examined the situation today. I'm going to have to remove the
fresh water tank (which is beneath the across-from-kitchen sofa-bed) in
order to get to the hose connections on the hot water heater. I'll then
have easy access and no need for any of that "connect & snake" stuff: the
hoses have gentle curves beneath the floor and gentle curves above it.
There's no foam involved. The holes in the floor will just have to be
re-caulked when I'm done. With the gentle curves, I can get by without the
"hose springs" Matt mentioned, but I may add them this time since they're
apparently available locally and might prevent problems.
I'll just go ahead and order 50' of hose, though I think
Ken Henderson
Americus, GA
www.gmcwipersetc.com
Large Wiring Diagrams
76 X-Birchaven
76 X-Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] 23' Heater Hoses [message #333252 is a reply to message #333251] |
Sat, 09 June 2018 06:19 |
C Boyd
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Good morning Ken.. your Birch may be different but the water heater hoses I have replaced has all been 5/8". The front "T" at the water pump is a reducer "T" from 3/4 to 5/8 and the rear hose is 5/8. If you use The silly cone hose like on the big trucks you will need stainless clamps that have a longer tail under the rack slots in the clamps to keep the hose from seeping out and causing trouble later on.
Ken Henderson wrote on Fri, 08 June 2018 22:58I carefully examined the situation today. I'm going to have to remove the
fresh water tank (which is beneath the across-from-kitchen sofa-bed) in
order to get to the hose connections on the hot water heater. I'll then
have easy access and no need for any of that "connect & snake" stuff: the
hoses have gentle curves beneath the floor and gentle curves above it.
There's no foam involved. The holes in the floor will just have to be
re-caulked when I'm done. With the gentle curves, I can get by without the
"hose springs" Matt mentioned, but I may add them this time since they're
apparently available locally and might prevent problems.
I'll just go ahead and order 50' of hose, though I think
C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
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| Re: [GMCnet] 23' Heater Hoses [message #333253 is a reply to message #333252] |
Sat, 09 June 2018 07:25 |
Ken Henderson
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Thanks, Chuck,
Yep, I'm sure the rear hoses are 5/8". I saw notes about silicone hose
requiring special clamps but didn't know what it meant. Based on their
life vs mine, I've decided against that expenditure.
Hope you're doing better!
Ken
On Sat, Jun 9, 2018 at 7:20 AM Charles Boyd
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> Good morning Ken.. your Birch may be different but the water heater hoses
> I have replaced has all been 5/8". The front "T" at the water pump is a
> reducer "T" from 3/4 to 5/8 and the rear hose is 5/8. If you use The
> silly cone hose like on the big trucks you will need stainless clamps that
> have
> a longer tail under the rack slots in the clamps to keep the hose from
> seeping out and causing trouble later on.
>
>
>
>
>
> Ken Henderson wrote on Fri, 08 June 2018 22:58
>> I carefully examined the situation today. I'm going to have to remove
> the
>> fresh water tank (which is beneath the across-from-kitchen sofa-bed) in
>> order to get to the hose connections on the hot water heater. I'll then
>> have easy access and no need for any of that "connect & snake" stuff:
> the
>> hoses have gentle curves beneath the floor and gentle curves above it.
>> There's no foam involved. The holes in the floor will just have to be
>> re-caulked when I'm done. With the gentle curves, I can get by without
> the
>> "hose springs" Matt mentioned, but I may add them this time since they're
>> apparently available locally and might prevent problems.
>>
>> I'll just go ahead and order 50' of hose, though I think
>
>
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> C. Boyd
> 76 Crestmont
> East Tennessee
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| Re: [GMCnet] 23' Heater Hoses [message #333263 is a reply to message #333253] |
Sat, 09 June 2018 10:04 |
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Ken,
I reckon if you used silicone hoses you'd be even more of a hero PO to the next owner of your Birchaven!
:-)
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
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From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Ken Henderson
Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2018 7:25 AM
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Thanks, Chuck,
Yep, I'm sure the rear hoses are 5/8". I saw notes about silicone hose
requiring special clamps but didn't know what it meant. Based on their
life vs mine, I've decided against that expenditure.
Hope you're doing better!
Ken
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| Re: [GMCnet] 23' Heater Hoses [message #333283 is a reply to message #333282] |
Sat, 09 June 2018 11:58 |
Hal StClair
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I used the Gates green stripe hose. Easier to seal,cheaper and will most likely outlive me. Hal
"I enjoy talking to you. Your mind appeals to me. It resembles my own mind, except you happen to be insane."
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| Re: [GMCnet] 23' Heater Hoses [message #333287 is a reply to message #333283] |
Sat, 09 June 2018 14:10 |
Ken Henderson
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Y'All gotta know, if it's good enough for Hal StC., it's good enough for
me! As for Rob M. & Hal K., they's been around them aeroplanes too long!
Ken H.
On Sat, Jun 9, 2018 at 12:58 PM Hal StClair
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> I used the Gates green stripe hose. Easier to seal,cheaper and will most
> likely outlive me. Hal
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| Re: [GMCnet] 23' Heater Hoses [message #333293 is a reply to message #333282] |
Sat, 09 June 2018 17:32 |
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hal kading wrote on Sat, 09 June 2018 12:53A coach with all electrical wires labeled deserves silicone hoses. Only the best, Ken!
I have to agree.
Richard
76 Palm Beach
SE Michigan
www.PalmBeachGMC.com
Roller Cam 455, TBI+EBL, 3.42 FD, 4 Bag, Macerator, Lenzi (brakes, vacuum system, front end stuff), Manny Tranny, vacuum step, Tankless + OEM water heaters.
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| Re: [GMCnet] 23' Heater Hoses [message #333294 is a reply to message #333287] |
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Yep, and I'm VERY good at spending money; especially someone else's!
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 23' Heater Hoses
Y'All gotta know, if it's good enough for Hal StC., it's good enough for
me! As for Rob M. & Hal K., they's been around them aeroplanes too long!
Ken H.
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