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[GMCnet] Head lights? [message #332972] Sun, 03 June 2018 20:53 Go to next message
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I have to replace both head lights. I was wondering if there something better than the old type bulbs?

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Re: [GMCnet] Head lights? [message #332977 is a reply to message #332972] Sun, 03 June 2018 22:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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give Jim K a call.
> On June 3, 2018 at 6:53 PM "amansfield1104@charter.net" wrote:
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> I have to replace both head lights. I was wondering if there something better than the old type bulbs?
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> Art
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Re: [GMCnet] Head lights? [message #332978 is a reply to message #332977] Sun, 03 June 2018 22:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 8:11 PM RICHARD/MARLI SHOOP
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>> I have to replace both head lights. I was wondering if there something
> better than the old type bulbs?
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>> Art
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Re: [GMCnet] Head lights? [message #332987 is a reply to message #332978] Mon, 04 June 2018 05:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 8:59 PM Jim Kanomata wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 8:11 PM RICHARD/MARLI SHOOP
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>> give Jim K a call.
>>> On June 3, 2018 at 6:53 PM "amansfield1104@charter.net" > amansfield1104@charter.net> wrote:
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>>> I have to replace both head lights. I was wondering if there something
>> better than the old type bulbs?
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Re: [GMCnet] Head lights? [message #332993 is a reply to message #332972] Mon, 04 June 2018 08:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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amansfield1104 wrote on Sun, 03 June 2018 21:53
I have to replace both head lights. I was wondering if there something better than the old type bulbs?

Art


I bought a pair of SYLVANIA ZEVO 7" Round Street Legal LED Headlights in 2015. They really improved night driving for me. They are a bit pricey at ~$450 for the pair, but to me it was well worth it as I drive at night a lot. They put out a nice white light just like modern cars with LED headlights. They are a drop in replacement for the OEM headlights.


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Re: [GMCnet] Head lights? [message #333076 is a reply to message #332972] Tue, 05 June 2018 08:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Silverstars are one step up. Beyond that there are lots of LED type units many of which are poorly made and very discourteous to oncoming traffic with stray glare. Do your research. Also alignment is very important and dependent on first setting proper ride height on your coach.

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Re: [GMCnet] Head lights? [message #333120 is a reply to message #332972] Wed, 06 June 2018 10:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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amansfield1104 wrote on Sun, 03 June 2018 20:53
I have to replace both head lights. I was wondering if there something better than the old type bulbs?

Art


Plenty of new and old school options to upgrading mid 70's round headlights.

Being a Eurosnob, I went with Cibie 7" H4 headlights:

https://www.amazon.com/Cibie-082440-82440-Light-Unit/dp/B008DQV88Q
https://www.amazon.com/Cibie-082440-82440-Light-Unit/dp/B008DQV88Q

Once you do e-code headlamps, you don't go back...

You can put regular regular H4 halogen bulbs, Silverstars, or LED.

I went with these:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2018-NEW-H4-9003-HB2-1300W-195000LM-CREE-LED-Headlight-Kit-Hi-Lo-Beam-Bulb-6500K/323049810103

Plug and play. I did need to rotate them into the proper position to get the correct horizontal cutoff of the beam, but it works well with the Cibies. Very white.

I have a spare set of halogens just in case these do not last.



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Re: [GMCnet] Head lights? [message #333124 is a reply to message #333120] Wed, 06 June 2018 12:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That should do the trick!

Will you rewire the lamp off of a solenoid? That bulb is rated at 1,300 watts and I think the old incandescent bulbs were much less, something like 50 watts, or so.

Larry Davick
Fremont, California
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> On June 6, 2018 at 8:55 AM Joe Weir wrote:
>
>
> amansfield1104 wrote on Sun, 03 June 2018 20:53
>> I have to replace both head lights. I was wondering if there something better than the old type bulbs?
>>
>> Art
>
>
> Plenty of new and old school options to upgrading mid 70's round headlights.
>
> Being a Eurosnob, I went with Cibie 7" H4 headlights:
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Cibie-082440-82440-Light-Unit/dp/B008DQV88Q
> https://www.amazon.com/Cibie-082440-82440-Light-Unit/dp/B008DQV88Q
>
> Once you do e-code headlamps, you don't go back...
>
> You can put regular regular H4 halogen bulbs, Silverstars, or LED.
>
> I went with these:
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/2018-NEW-H4-9003-HB2-1300W-195000LM-CREE-LED-Headlight-Kit-Hi-Lo-Beam-Bulb-6500K/323049810103
>
> Plug and play. I did need to rotate them into the proper position to get the correct horizontal cutoff of the beam, but it works well with the
> Cibies. Very white.
>
> I have a spare set of halogens just in case these do not last.
>
>
> --
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> guys were really thinking about us second hand owners by including that beverage center...
> Columbia, SC.
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Re: [GMCnet] Head lights? [message #333125 is a reply to message #333124] Wed, 06 June 2018 12:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That's not 1300 watts, whatever the listing says. Most of these are made by
Easdar if they use CREE LED's, and they actually draw 25 watts (2.8 amps)
to produce 6000 lumens, per lamp, for their typical H4 bulb.

Rick "1300 watts of LEDs would provide its own motive force" Denney

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:14 PM, Larry Davick wrote:

> That should do the trick!
>
> Will you rewire the lamp off of a solenoid? That bulb is rated at 1,300
> watts and I think the old incandescent bulbs were much less, something like
> 50 watts, or so.
>
> Larry Davick
> Fremont, California
> A Mystery Machine
> '76 (ish) Palm Beach
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Head lights? [message #333129 is a reply to message #333125] Wed, 06 June 2018 13:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Those are "Japanese" watts" for audio fools old enough to get the reference...

Relaying the headlights is on the list, even if these bulbs don't need it, just because.

Richard Denney wrote on Wed, 06 June 2018 12:54
That's not 1300 watts, whatever the listing says. Most of these are made by
Easdar if they use CREE LED's, and they actually draw 25 watts (2.8 amps)
to produce 6000 lumens, per lamp, for their typical H4 bulb.

Rick "1300 watts of LEDs would provide its own motive force" Denney

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:14 PM, Larry Davick wrote:

> That should do the trick!
>
> Will you rewire the lamp off of a solenoid? That bulb is rated at 1,300
> watts and I think the old incandescent bulbs were much less, something like
> 50 watts, or so.
>
> Larry Davick
> Fremont, California
> A Mystery Machine
> '76 (ish) Palm Beach
>
> --
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Re: [GMCnet] Head lights? [message #333132 is a reply to message #333120] Wed, 06 June 2018 15:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I guess someone should point out, those lights are marketed as fog-lights because they are not DOT approved for use as headlights in the USA. Many people still use them for headlights but, "ya payes yer $$ and ya takes yer chances".

Joe Weir wrote on Wed, 06 June 2018 08:55
amansfield1104 wrote on Sun, 03 June 2018 20:53
I have to replace both head lights. I was wondering if there something better than the old type bulbs?

Art


Plenty of new and old school options to upgrading mid 70's round headlights.

Being a Eurosnob, I went with Cibie 7" H4 headlights:

https://www.amazon.com/Cibie-082440-82440-Light-Unit/dp/B008DQV88Q
https://www.amazon.com/Cibie-082440-82440-Light-Unit/dp/B008DQV88Q

Once you do e-code headlamps, you don't go back...

You can put regular regular H4 halogen bulbs, Silverstars, or LED.

I went with these:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2018-NEW-H4-9003-HB2-1300W-195000LM-CREE-LED-Headlight-Kit-Hi-Lo-Beam-Bulb-6500K/323049810103

Plug and play. I did need to rotate them into the proper position to get the correct horizontal cutoff of the beam, but it works well with the Cibies. Very white.

I have a spare set of halogens just in case these do not last.




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Re: [GMCnet] Head lights? [message #333133 is a reply to message #333125] Wed, 06 June 2018 16:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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By the way, I use and have been very happy with Sylvania Silverstars.

Rick “white and bright” Denney

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:54 PM Richard Denney wrote:

> That's not 1300 watts, whatever the listing says. Most of these are made
> by Easdar if they use CREE LED's, and they actually draw 25 watts (2.8
> amps) to produce 6000 lumens, per lamp, for their typical H4 bulb.
>
> Rick "1300 watts of LEDs would provide its own motive force" Denney
>
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 1:14 PM, Larry Davick wrote:
>
>> That should do the trick!
>>
>> Will you rewire the lamp off of a solenoid? That bulb is rated at 1,300
>> watts and I think the old incandescent bulbs were much less, something like
>> 50 watts, or so.
>>
>> Larry Davick
>> Fremont, California
>> A Mystery Machine
>> '76 (ish) Palm Beach
>>
>> --
> '73 X-Glacier 230 "Jaws"
> Northern Virginia
> Offlist email: rick at rickdenney dot com
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Head lights? [message #333135 is a reply to message #333133] Wed, 06 June 2018 17:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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LMC has a twin relay kit to improve the amount of current the wires can carry. Simple install, just need to extend one wire. Kit was designed for GM pickups which are narrower than the GMC motorhome.

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Re: [GMCnet] Head lights? [message #333137 is a reply to message #333135] Wed, 06 June 2018 17:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The real benefit of using relays on high current circuits is using the
headlight switch for only closing the relay contacts, and not the heavy amp
load of the headlamps. Should increase longevity of the switch. I
personally use Sylvania replacement headlamps but the halogen version. They
last well and don't bust your wallet.
Some of the guys in a hot rod club I belong to use lamp kits that
sound like an arc lamp in a movie projector. They leave red spots in your
vision if you look into them. Blue white light. Really expensive, like
$400.00 ea. Not for me.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 3:01 PM Thomas Phipps wrote:

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> carry. Simple install, just need to extend one wire. Kit was designed for GM
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Re: [GMCnet] Head lights? [message #333147 is a reply to message #333137] Wed, 06 June 2018 20:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks everyone. I see what I can get tomorrow.

I leave from Decatur AL to Oswego NY with several stops on the way. Will fly in RC glider contest on the way up. I wonder what will fail on this trip. Last few trips it was always something I could fixer wait until I get home. The last one was head lights and header gasket. I was 20 mile from home when header gasket blew in a back up on the interstate.

My main problem on that trip was me. I had a mild heart attack when in Florida. From what the doc said I thought I was ok to drive home. The head lights and head gasket went out on way home. I did not try and fix them. Had 4 by passes after some test. Sure fell much different now.

I should have fixed everything earlier but it took me a while to get started.

Art
> On Jun 6, 2018, at 5:13 PM, James Hupy wrote:
>
> The real benefit of using relays on high current circuits is using the
> headlight switch for only closing the relay contacts, and not the heavy amp
> load of the headlamps. Should increase longevity of the switch. I
> personally use Sylvania replacement headlamps but the halogen version. They
> last well and don't bust your wallet.
> Some of the guys in a hot rod club I belong to use lamp kits that
> sound like an arc lamp in a movie projector. They leave red spots in your
> vision if you look into them. Blue white light. Really expensive, like
> $400.00 ea. Not for me.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Or
> 78 GMC ROYALE 403
>
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 3:01 PM Thomas Phipps wrote:
>
>> LMC has a twin relay kit to improve the amount of current the wires can
>> carry. Simple install, just need to extend one wire. Kit was designed for GM
>> pickups which are narrower than the GMC motorhome.
>>
>> Tom
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Re: [GMCnet] Head lights? [message #333151 is a reply to message #333147] Wed, 06 June 2018 20:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sh$t Art! Forget the header gasket.

Gees

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On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 9:05 PM amansfield1104@charter.net <
amansfield1104@charter.net> wrote:

> Thanks everyone. I see what I can get tomorrow.
>
> I leave from Decatur AL to Oswego NY with several stops on the way. Will
> fly in RC glider contest on the way up. I wonder what will fail on this
> trip. Last few trips it was always something I could fixer wait until I
> get home. The last one was head lights and header gasket. I was 20 mile
> from home when header gasket blew in a back up on the interstate.
>
> My main problem on that trip was me. I had a mild heart attack when in
> Florida. From what the doc said I thought I was ok to drive home. The
> head lights and head gasket went out on way home. I did not try and fix
> them. Had 4 by passes after some test. Sure fell much different now.
>
> I should have fixed everything earlier but it took me a while to get
> started.
>
> Art
>> On Jun 6, 2018, at 5:13 PM, James Hupy wrote:
>>
>> The real benefit of using relays on high current circuits is using the
>> headlight switch for only closing the relay contacts, and not the heavy
> amp
>> load of the headlamps. Should increase longevity of the switch. I
>> personally use Sylvania replacement headlamps but the halogen version.
> They
>> last well and don't bust your wallet.
>> Some of the guys in a hot rod club I belong to use lamp kits that
>> sound like an arc lamp in a movie projector. They leave red spots in your
>> vision if you look into them. Blue white light. Really expensive, like
>> $400.00 ea. Not for me.
>> Jim Hupy
>> Salem, Or
>> 78 GMC ROYALE 403
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 3:01 PM Thomas Phipps wrote:
>>
>>> LMC has a twin relay kit to improve the amount of current the wires can
>>> carry. Simple install, just need to extend one wire. Kit was designed
> for GM
>>> pickups which are narrower than the GMC motorhome.
>>>
>>> Tom
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Re: [GMCnet] Head lights? [message #333159 is a reply to message #333137] Wed, 06 June 2018 22:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What Jim said!!! plenty good for me....Tom
Re: [GMCnet] Head lights? [message #333181 is a reply to message #333132] Thu, 07 June 2018 15:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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PJ,

I'll agree that those who live in areas that inspect headlights need to know the gubment is likely to be unamused.

The DOT headlight regs date from the 50's. One of the requirements is that US bulbs must put a certain amount of light up off the road for overhead signs, and on both sides of the road. With DOT regs limiting low beam wattage to 55, this means less light on the road, where you need it. Another is that the lens have "DOT" molded into the glass. Just being free of the DOT molding in the glass makes then unapproved.

Unlike domestic sealed beams, which scatter light everywhere by comparison, E-code headlamps have a very sharp cutoff, making it easy to adjust so that the headlights do not blind oncoming traffic. More importantly, the cutoff angles more drastically up on the right (and none on the left) illuminating the right hand shoulder of the road and roadsigns. Can't count how many deer I've spotted getting ready to commit suicide with these lights.

In my opinion these are MUCH safer than DOT sealed beams, both for oncoming traffic and for the driver. I seriously doubt a constable is going to pull me because my lights didn't blind him as he approached...

Now, if you are a law and order kind of guy, please stick with DOT approved sealed beams. I do not condone lawlessness...



pjburt wrote on Wed, 06 June 2018 15:33
I guess someone should point out, those lights are marketed as fog-lights because they are not DOT approved for use as headlights in the USA. Many people still use them for headlights but, "ya payes yer $$ and ya takes yer chances".

Joe Weir wrote on Wed, 06 June 2018 08:55
amansfield1104 wrote on Sun, 03 June 2018 20:53
I have to replace both head lights. I was wondering if there something better than the old type bulbs?

Art


Plenty of new and old school options to upgrading mid 70's round headlights.

Being a Eurosnob, I went with Cibie 7" H4 headlights:

https://www.amazon.com/Cibie-082440-82440-Light-Unit/dp/B008DQV88Q
https://www.amazon.com/Cibie-082440-82440-Light-Unit/dp/B008DQV88Q

Once you do e-code headlamps, you don't go back...

You can put regular regular H4 halogen bulbs, Silverstars, or LED.

I went with these:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2018-NEW-H4-9003-HB2-1300W-195000LM-CREE-LED-Headlight-Kit-Hi-Lo-Beam-Bulb-6500K/323049810103

Plug and play. I did need to rotate them into the proper position to get the correct horizontal cutoff of the beam, but it works well with the Cibies. Very white.

I have a spare set of halogens just in case these do not last.





76 Birchaven - "Wicked Mistress" - New engine, trans, alum radiator, brakes, Sully airbags, fuel lines, seats, adult beverage center... those Coachmen guys were really thinking about us second hand owners by including that beverage center... Columbia, SC.

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Re: [GMCnet] Head lights? [message #333184 is a reply to message #333181] Thu, 07 June 2018 16:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
k2gkk is currently offline  k2gkk   United States
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NONE of my vehicles other than the coach even have sealed beam headlights (1999 GMC Sierra Pickup, 2002 Ford Explorer, 2012 Ford Flex).

D C "Mac" Macdonald​
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Since 30 November '53​
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From: Gmclist on behalf of Joe Weir
Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 15:22
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Head lights?

Art,

I'll agree that those who live in areas that inspect headlights need to know the gubment is likely to be unamused.

The DOT headlight regs date from the 50's. One of the requirements is that US bulbs must put a certain amount of light up off the road for overhead
signs, and on both sides of the road. With DOT regs limiting low beam wattage to 55, this means less light on the road, where you need it. Another
is that the lens have "DOT" molded into the glass. Just being free of the DOT molding in the glass makes then unapproved.

Unlike domestic sealed beams, which scatter light everywhere by comparison, E-code headlamps have a very sharp cutoff, making it easy to adjust so
that the headlights do not blind oncoming traffic. More importantly, the cutoff angles more drastically up on the right (and none on the left)
illuminating the right hand shoulder of the road and roadsigns. Can't count how many deer I've spotted getting ready to commit suicide with these
lights.

In my opinion these are MUCH safer than DOT sealed beams, both for oncoming traffic and for the driver. I seriously doubt a constable is going to
pull me because my lights didn't blind him as he approached...

Now, if you are a law and order kind of guy, please stick with DOT approved sealed beams. I do not condone lawlessness...



pjburt wrote on Wed, 06 June 2018 15:33
> I guess someone should point out, those lights are marketed as fog-lights because they are not DOT approved for use as headlights in the USA. Many
> people still use them for headlights but, "ya payes yer $$ and ya takes yer chances".
>
> Joe Weir wrote on Wed, 06 June 2018 08:55
>> amansfield1104 wrote on Sun, 03 June 2018 20:53
>>> I have to replace both head lights. I was wondering if there something better than the old type bulbs?
>>>
>>> Art
>>
>>
>> Plenty of new and old school options to upgrading mid 70's round headlights.
>>
>> Being a Eurosnob, I went with Cibie 7" H4 headlights:
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Cibie-082440-82440-Light-Unit/dp/B008DQV88Q
>> https://www.amazon.com/Cibie-082440-82440-Light-Unit/dp/B008DQV88Q
>>
>> Once you do e-code headlamps, you don't go back...
>>
>> You can put regular regular H4 halogen bulbs, Silverstars, or LED.
>>
>> I went with these:
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/2018-NEW-H4-9003-HB2-1300W-195000LM-CREE-LED-Headlight-Kit-Hi-Lo-Beam-Bulb-6500K/323049810103
>>
>> Plug and play. I did need to rotate them into the proper position to get the correct horizontal cutoff of the beam, but it works well with
>> the Cibies. Very white.
>>
>> I have a spare set of halogens just in case these do not last.


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guys were really thinking about us second hand owners by including that beverage center...
Columbia, SC.

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Re: [GMCnet] Head lights? [message #333187 is a reply to message #333184] Thu, 07 June 2018 16:44 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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Let's see. We have a saying in Salem, Oregon. The Capitol City. It is often
said that "When the legislature is in session, ain't nobody safe". Just
because there is a law against something, does not make it right.
Unenforceable laws abound.
From elder abuse, gun control, deficit spending, open range
regulations for grazing, monuments, the list is almost endless.
No police officer in the U.S.A. even knows them all, let alone wants
to waste their time standing beside a busy freeway writing a citation for
non DOT certified equipment, while substance abusing drivers zoom by 30 mph
over the speed limit. Just sayin.
Jim Hupy

On Thu, Jun 7, 2018, 2:31 PM D C _Mac_ Macdonald wrote:

> NONE of my vehicles other than the coach even have sealed beam headlights
> (1999 GMC Sierra Pickup, 2002 Ford Explorer, 2012 Ford Flex).
>
> D C "Mac" Macdonald​
> Amateur Radio K2GKK​
> Since 30 November '53​
> USAF and FAA, Retired​
> Member GMCMI & Classics​
> Oklahoma City, OK​
> "The Money Pit"​
> TZE166V101966​
> '76 ex-Palm Beach​
> k2gkk + hotmail dot com
> ________________________________
> From: Gmclist on behalf of Joe Weir joeweir@gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 15:22
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Head lights?
>
> Art,
>
> I'll agree that those who live in areas that inspect headlights need to
> know the gubment is likely to be unamused.
>
> The DOT headlight regs date from the 50's. One of the requirements is
> that US bulbs must put a certain amount of light up off the road for
> overhead
> signs, and on both sides of the road. With DOT regs limiting low beam
> wattage to 55, this means less light on the road, where you need it.
> Another
> is that the lens have "DOT" molded into the glass. Just being free of the
> DOT molding in the glass makes then unapproved.
>
> Unlike domestic sealed beams, which scatter light everywhere by
> comparison, E-code headlamps have a very sharp cutoff, making it easy to
> adjust so
> that the headlights do not blind oncoming traffic. More importantly, the
> cutoff angles more drastically up on the right (and none on the left)
> illuminating the right hand shoulder of the road and roadsigns. Can't
> count how many deer I've spotted getting ready to commit suicide with these
> lights.
>
> In my opinion these are MUCH safer than DOT sealed beams, both for
> oncoming traffic and for the driver. I seriously doubt a constable is
> going to
> pull me because my lights didn't blind him as he approached...
>
> Now, if you are a law and order kind of guy, please stick with DOT
> approved sealed beams. I do not condone lawlessness...
>
>
>
> pjburt wrote on Wed, 06 June 2018 15:33
>> I guess someone should point out, those lights are marketed as
> fog-lights because they are not DOT approved for use as headlights in the
> USA. Many
>> people still use them for headlights but, "ya payes yer $$ and ya takes
> yer chances".
>>
>> Joe Weir wrote on Wed, 06 June 2018 08:55
>>> amansfield1104 wrote on Sun, 03 June 2018 20:53
>>>> I have to replace both head lights. I was wondering if there
> something better than the old type bulbs?
>>>>
>>>> Art
>>>
>>>
>>> Plenty of new and old school options to upgrading mid 70's round
> headlights.
>>>
>>> Being a Eurosnob, I went with Cibie 7" H4 headlights:
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/Cibie-082440-82440-Light-Unit/dp/B008DQV88Q
>>> https://www.amazon.com/Cibie-082440-82440-Light-Unit/dp/B008DQV88Q
>>>
>>> Once you do e-code headlamps, you don't go back...
>>>
>>> You can put regular regular H4 halogen bulbs, Silverstars, or LED.
>>>
>>> I went with these:
>>>
>>>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/2018-NEW-H4-9003-HB2-1300W-195000LM-CREE-LED-Headlight-Kit-Hi-Lo-Beam-Bulb-6500K/323049810103
>>>
>>> Plug and play. I did need to rotate them into the proper position to
> get the correct horizontal cutoff of the beam, but it works well with
>>> the Cibies. Very white.
>>>
>>> I have a spare set of halogens just in case these do not last.
>
>
> --
> 76 Birchaven - "Wicked Mistress" - New engine, trans, alum radiator,
> brakes, Sully airbags, fuel lines, seats, adult beverage center... those
> Coachmen
> guys were really thinking about us second hand owners by including that
> beverage center...
> Columbia, SC.
>
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