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| [GMCnet] Fun toad [message #332882] |
Thu, 31 May 2018 19:35  |
emerystora
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>> glwgmc wrote on Wed, 30 May 2018 17:30
>>> Yea, Emery, being built on a truck chassis they are on the heavy side.
>> With a manual trans in neutral, the transfer case in high 2wd and the
>>> front hubs unlocked the rear wheels, rear drive shaft and the
>> transmission output shaft will be turning, but that seems no different from
>> any other
>>> two wheel rear drive car with a manual transmission so would not think
>> it be an issue. I never could find any definitive statement on whether they
>>> can or cannot be towed four down. Where did you find that?
>>>
>>> Jerry
>>> Jerry Work
>>
Jerry,
I found it in a couple of places.
One is here but they cant seem to agree amound themselves
https://delica.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=11782&p=89896&hilit=towing+behind+motorhome#p89896
Emery Stora
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| Re: [GMCnet] Fun toad [message #332892 is a reply to message #332882] |
Fri, 01 June 2018 09:07  |
emerystora
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I think the car looks great. I wouldn’t buy it for a toad though. First of all it weighs 4000 pounds. Quite a bit heavier than my Geo Tracker. Also, it’s 25 years old already. Too much maintenance and hard to find parts for me.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO
> On Jun 1, 2018, at 7:59 AM, Gerald Work wrote:
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> Thanks, Emery. I have seen a number of such posts where some say yes and others no. Given Matt’s concern about the neutral shaft in the trans not turning probably the best bet would be a drive line disconnect just to make sure. Interesting that the one guy says there is a neutral in the transfer case, just not marked on the linkage. Sounds unlikely to me. Still fun speculation.
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> Jerry
> Jerry Work
> The Dovetail Joint
> Fine furniture designed and hand crafted in the 1907 former Masonic Temple building in historic Kerby, OR
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>>> glwgmc wrote on Wed, 30 May 2018 17:30
>>>> Yea, Emery, being built on a truck chassis they are on the heavy side.
>>> With a manual trans in neutral, the transfer case in high 2wd and the
>>>> front hubs unlocked the rear wheels, rear drive shaft and the
>>> transmission output shaft will be turning, but that seems no different from
>>> any other
>>>> two wheel rear drive car with a manual transmission so would not think
>>> it be an issue. I never could find any definitive statement on whether they
>>>> can or cannot be towed four down. Where did you find that?
>>>>
>>>> Jerry
>>>> Jerry Work
>>>
> Jerry,
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> I found it in a couple of places.
> One is here but they cant seem to agree amound themselves
>
> https://delica.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=11782&p=89896&hilit=towing+behind+motorhome#p89896
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> Emery Stora
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| Re: [GMCnet] Fun toad [message #332894 is a reply to message #332892] |
Fri, 01 June 2018 09:31 |
James Hupy
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On most conventional manual transmissions, there are 2 and a reverse idler
stub shaft inside the case. The only thing that does not turn with the
driveshaft is the mainshaft that is driven by the clutch/engine. Because it
does not turn when the vehicle is towed, the need for lubrication is not
great. Most of the time, the mainshaft is located high in the case, over
the top of the cluster gear shaft, and out of the gear lube. When the
engine runs and the selector is in gear, a sliding sleeve locks the
mainshaft and cluster gear together when the lower gears are selected. When
high gear is selected, power goes straight down the mainshaft to the
tailshaft, or overdrive gears if they are present. Just saying, there are
seldom anything to move lube around inside the manual transmission except
flat disc oil slingers, and those turn with the driveshaft. If the car
moves, the slingers are moving. Of course, there are exceptions to this
design. So, never say "always" or "never". Someone will prove you wrong
with a planetary gearset or somesuch.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403
On Fri, Jun 1, 2018, 7:08 AM Emery Stora wrote:
> I think the car looks great. I wouldn’t buy it for a toad though. First of
> all it weighs 4000 pounds. Quite a bit heavier than my Geo Tracker. Also,
> it’s 25 years old already. Too much maintenance and hard to find parts for
> me.
>
> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Frederick, CO
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>> On Jun 1, 2018, at 7:59 AM, Gerald Work wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, Emery. I have seen a number of such posts where some say yes
> and others no. Given Matt’s concern about the neutral shaft in the trans
> not turning probably the best bet would be a drive line disconnect just to
> make sure. Interesting that the one guy says there is a neutral in the
> transfer case, just not marked on the linkage. Sounds unlikely to me.
> Still fun speculation.
>>
>> Jerry
>> Jerry Work
>> The Dovetail Joint
>> Fine furniture designed and hand crafted in the 1907 former Masonic
> Temple building in historic Kerby, OR
>>
>> glwork@mac.com
>> http://jerrywork.com
>>
>> =================
>>>>
>>>> glwgmc wrote on Wed, 30 May 2018 17:30
>>>> > Yea, Emery, being built on a truck chassis they are on the heavy side.
>>>> With a manual trans in neutral, the transfer case in high 2wd and the
>>>> > front hubs unlocked the rear wheels, rear drive shaft and the
>>>> transmission output shaft will be turning, but that seems no different
> from
>>>> any other
>>>> > two wheel rear drive car with a manual transmission so would not think
>>>> it be an issue. I never could find any definitive statement on
> whether they
>>>> > can or cannot be towed four down. Where did you find that?
>>>> >
>>>> > Jerry
>>>> > Jerry Work
>>>>
>> Jerry,
>>
>> I found it in a couple of places.
>> One is here but they cant seem to agree amound themselves
>>
>>
> https://delica.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=11782&p=89896&hilit=towing+behind+motorhome#p89896
> https://delica.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=11782&p=89896&hilit=towing+behind+motorhome#p89896
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