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Off topic - clutch bleed [message #332063] |
Mon, 14 May 2018 12:02 |
jhbridges
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Does anyone have an easier way than taking the clutch cylinder off the firewall of a Ranger pickup to bleed it. If somebody was dumb enough over the years to let the fluid get below the inlet? I can submerge the thing in a bucket of brake fluid if I have to - that's the next step - but of there's a reasonable way I'd love to hear it. My ratrod toad is parked till I overcome my case of the dumbass. Ideas?
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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Re: [GMCnet] Off topic - clutch bleed [message #332065 is a reply to message #332064] |
Mon, 14 May 2018 13:10 |
Nelson
Messages: 120 Registered: August 2014
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Johnny,
If you “goggle” “ how to bleed Ranger clutch “ there are some suggestions that might help and some U-tube videos also.
HTH,
Nelson
Sent from my iPad
> On May 14, 2018, at 1:56 PM, Gary EarthLink wrote:
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> You mean bench bleed the MS or actually bleed the clutch?
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> Thanks,
> Gary
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>> On May 14, 2018, at 10:02 AM, Johnny Bridges via Gmclist wrote:
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>> Does anyone have an easier way than taking the clutch cylinder off the firewall of a Ranger pickup to bleed it. If somebody was dumb enough over the
>> years to let the fluid get below the inlet? I can submerge the thing in a bucket of brake fluid if I have to - that's the next step - but of there's
>> a reasonable way I'd love to hear it. My ratrod toad is parked till I overcome my case of the dumbass. Ideas?
>>
>> --johnny
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>> 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
>> Braselton, Ga.
>> "I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased
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Re: Off topic - clutch bleed [message #332079 is a reply to message #332063] |
Tue, 15 May 2018 07:46 |
jhbridges
Messages: 8412 Registered: May 2011 Location: Braselton ga
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The problem is caused by the angle of the master cylinder and the fact that due to this angle a bubble forms at the top, and the stroke isn't sufficient to clear it. Right now, the battery is on charge. After quite a bit of fiddling, it's got a better pedal than it did. When the rain quits and the battery's hot, I'll see if it was sufficient. Option... off it comes. Fortunately, this is an engine swap, so the slave cylinder is outboard of the bellhousing.... unlike the stock setup. Way easier to mess with.
--johnny
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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Re: [GMCnet] Off topic - clutch bleed [message #332083 is a reply to message #332079] |
Tue, 15 May 2018 08:29 |
GMC.LES
Messages: 505 Registered: April 2014
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Johnny,
On my 85 Ranger, if I got the clutch halfway bled, it would self-purge the remaining bubbles back into the reservoir just through normal use. It’s been 15 years since I had that truck, and I don’t recall exactly how the master is installed anymore. I do know that I never had to mess with the master itself, but had the internal slave cyl fail on me twice, thus the reason for bleeding. The last year i owned it, I had to top off the fluid every day or be clutch less.
Les Burt
Montreal
'75 Eleganza 26'
> On May 15, 2018, at 8:46 AM, Johnny Bridges via Gmclist wrote:
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> The problem is caused by the angle of the master cylinder and the fact that due to this angle a bubble forms at the top, and the stroke isn't
> sufficient to clear it. Right now, the battery is on charge. After quite a bit of fiddling, it's got a better pedal than it did. When the rain
> quits and the battery's hot, I'll see if it was sufficient. Option... off it comes. Fortunately, this is an engine swap, so the slave cylinder is
> outboard of the bellhousing.... unlike the stock setup. Way easier to mess with.
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> --johnny
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> --johnny
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> 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
> Braselton, Ga.
> "I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell" - ol Andy, paraphrased
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Re: Off topic - clutch bleed [message #332087 is a reply to message #332079] |
Tue, 15 May 2018 09:19 |
Bullitthead
Messages: 1411 Registered: November 2013
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Since you have the exterior slave, you can go downstairs and push the piston back in the bore and purge the system from the bottom up! A few cycles of that should clear the air. Do it quickly to get a good flow, be ready for a little spillage at the top, and don't let the fluid go down when you SLOWLY fill the slave back up with the pedal.
Terry Kelpien
ASE Master Technician
73 Glacier 260
Smithfield, Va.
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Re: Off topic - clutch bleed [message #332089 is a reply to message #332063] |
Tue, 15 May 2018 10:19 |
jhbridges
Messages: 8412 Registered: May 2011 Location: Braselton ga
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Terry, that's basically what I've been doing, after blocking the pedal down for a day or two to get all the air I could up to the top. Actually, for the time I've spent, I could of taken it all off, submerged it in a pail of DOT3 and then exercised it till no more bubbles appeared, then watch it's upright and put it back. It has become a matter of pride though - I ain't gonna let the damn thing best me In that it's got a 350+ HP 302 on one side and a T5 and Detroit Locker on the other, it's pretty much undriveable with a dragging clutch. I put it in 3rd and cranked it in gear to get it home.
Thanks for the help, I'm getting there,
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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