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Replacement electrical outlets [message #331386] Wed, 25 April 2018 17:10 Go to next message
thesmith is currently offline  thesmith   United States
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I planned to replace the AC outlet behind my fridge but find its not a standard house type.
Do they still make the type fitted in a 1978 Royale or do I need to make bigger hole and fit the ones in common use now?

Pete


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Re: [GMCnet] Replacement electrical outlets [message #331387 is a reply to message #331386] Wed, 25 April 2018 17:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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They all use the standard 3 prong plugs and the one in the wall should be
the same.
If somone changed the wall plug, as Royal models had std plugs.

On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 3:10 PM, Pete Smith wrote:

> I planned to replace the AC outlet behind my fridge but find its not a
> standard house type.
> Do they still make the type fitted in a 1978 Royale or do I need to make
> bigger hole and fit the ones in common use now?
>
> Pete
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Re: [GMCnet] Replacement electrical outlets [message #331390 is a reply to message #331387] Wed, 25 April 2018 18:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's a normal 3 prong, but housing is different, with built in lugs secured by two screws.
Not the usual house floating sockets and faceplate with box behind.
Pretty sure it's original and it's the same as the rest in the coach.


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Re: [GMCnet] Replacement electrical outlets [message #331393 is a reply to message #331390] Wed, 25 April 2018 19:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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take a pic and send it to my phne: 408-639-0737
I'LL figurenit out.

On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 4:44 PM, Pete Smith wrote:

> It's a normal 3 prong, but housing is different, with built in lugs
> secured by two screws.
> Not the usual house floating sockets and faceplate with box behind.
> Pretty sure it's original and it's the same as the rest in the coach.
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Re: [GMCnet] Replacement electrical outlets [message #331395 is a reply to message #331393] Wed, 25 April 2018 21:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks, I will be back at the GMC this weekend and I will do that.

Pete


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Re: Replacement electrical outlets [message #331403 is a reply to message #331386] Thu, 26 April 2018 06:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On my 77PB, I wanted to replace the outlet at the kitchen counter with a GFI outlet which requires a "Contempera" rectangular hole faceplate cover. I noted the box was a shallow design and was wider than standard size electrical box.

After a year or so of searching I did find a wider face plate that barely covers the box. I don't remember where I found it, but likely it was in a surplus store.

Fortunately the GFI was a feed-through unit so I was able to GFI protect the outlet under the dinette.


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Re: Replacement electrical outlets [message #331420 is a reply to message #331403] Thu, 26 April 2018 11:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I changed all my outlets with GFI left over from a job. A little tight with two sets of wires but doable. The ones with one pair not hard at all. Center the outlet in the box and get the oversize covers at Home Depot, Lowes or your favorite outlet.

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Re: [GMCnet] Replacement electrical outlets [message #331424 is a reply to message #331390] Thu, 26 April 2018 11:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Is it a outdoor style outlet box of cast aluminum ?

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Re: [GMCnet] Replacement electrical outlets [message #331432 is a reply to message #331424] Thu, 26 April 2018 15:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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F you are replacing the outlet receptacles, seriously consider using one of the new boxes that include USB power points. You will be glad that you did. Fit perfectly in my Avion without any extra hassle.
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Re: [GMCnet] Replacement electrical outlets [message #331443 is a reply to message #331424] Fri, 27 April 2018 06:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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mghamms wrote on Thu, 26 April 2018 12:12
Is it a outdoor style outlet box of cast aluminum ?

Mike,

That is answer is manufacturer dependent.
Some are cast aluminum.
Some are painted pot metal (largely zinc) and if the coating gets damaged, they dissolve in short order.

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] Replacement electrical outlets [message #331444 is a reply to message #331443] Fri, 27 April 2018 07:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oversized plates fit? Thats good to know! Thank you.

While we are speaking of 120v outlets, have many owners ran an outlet to
the cockpit? I ran a line while i was rebuilding, but I'm struggling to
identify a user friendly location for the outlet. I was considering cutting
a chunk out of the seat storage base, and pointing an outlet towards the
engine cover. Could come in handy while working on the engine.

Other thoughts?

On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 7:59 AM, Matt Colie wrote:

> mghamms wrote on Thu, 26 April 2018 12:12
>> Is it a outdoor style outlet box of cast aluminum ?
>
> Mike,
>
> That is answer is manufacturer dependent.
> Some are cast aluminum.
> Some are painted pot metal (largely zinc) and if the coating gets damaged,
> they dissolve in short order.
>
> Matt
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Re: [GMCnet] Replacement electrical outlets [message #331445 is a reply to message #331444] Fri, 27 April 2018 07:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have an outlet on the end of the dinette seat right behind the cockpit
for reaching just about anywhere in the front half. I put a voltage and
frequency monitor in that out, which I can see from the door, which on my
23 is also right behind the cockpit.

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On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 7:12 AM Will wrote:

> Oversized plates fit? Thats good to know! Thank you.
>
> While we are speaking of 120v outlets, have many owners ran an outlet to
> the cockpit? I ran a line while i was rebuilding, but I'm struggling to
> identify a user friendly location for the outlet. I was considering cutting
> a chunk out of the seat storage base, and pointing an outlet towards the
> engine cover. Could come in handy while working on the engine.
>
> Other thoughts?
>
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Re: Replacement electrical outlets [message #331466 is a reply to message #331403] Fri, 27 April 2018 16:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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RF_Burns wrote on Thu, 26 April 2018 07:09
On my 77PB, I wanted to replace the outlet at the kitchen counter with a GFI outlet which requires a "Contempera" rectangular hole faceplate cover. I noted the box was a shallow design and was wider than standard size electrical box.

After a year or so of searching I did find a wider face plate that barely covers the box. I don't remember where I found it, but likely it was in a surplus store.

Fortunately the GFI was a feed-through unit so I was able to GFI protect the outlet under the dinette.


I know those rectangular hole receptacles and cover plates as Decora, by Leviton. The larger cover plates, referred to by some as cheater or goof plates, come in a number of sizes. The big box stores will probably only have two sizes of oversized cover plates. Other places have more.
https://www.kyleswitchplates.com/oversized-switch-plates-outlet-covers/

To the OP: A number of years ago I bought a bunch of stuff at a going-out-of-business auction of a van conversion business. One of the things I picked up was a number of plastic/composition outlet boxes for RVs. They were smaller and shallower and sound like what you have. You may have luck searching for "RV receptacle boxes". Or maybe you could use these:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000BQNDNY

Richard


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Re: [GMCnet] Replacement electrical outlets [message #331469 is a reply to message #331443] Fri, 27 April 2018 20:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Matt Colie wrote on Fri, 27 April 2018 06:59
mghamms wrote on Thu, 26 April 2018 12:12
Is it a outdoor style outlet box of cast aluminum ?

Mike,

That is answer is manufacturer dependent.
Some are cast aluminum.
Some are painted pot metal (largely zinc) and if the coating gets damaged, they dissolve in short order.

Matt

Well I should have called them weatherproof also.
I always called it white metal also. Junk recycled stuff that made from non-ferrous metal scraps.
It corrodes in no time by galvanic action.


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Re: [GMCnet] Replacement electrical outlets [message #331470 is a reply to message #331469] Fri, 27 April 2018 20:21 Go to previous message
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Might want to try these for surge protection and USB:
https://www.dealnews.com/Office-Style-Wall-Surge-Protector-2-Pack-for-13-free-shipping-w-Prime/17291000.html


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