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[GMCnet] When will the smell/ fear of smoke go away? [message #328788] Sat, 03 February 2018 12:17 Go to next message
BobDunahugh is currently offline  BobDunahugh   United States
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It's been almost 2 and a half years since our first 78 Royale burned up at a road race track event in Hastings Nebraska. Aug 28th of 2015. Went outside this morning to be met with the smell of smoke from a neighbors fire place. In almost an instant. I looked at our shop that our second 78 Royale is parked in. We loved that GMC. And all the memories of the caring people we've met at all the GMCMI rallies that we've been to since 2003. The 42 states it took us to with no real problems. An alternator belt Missouri once, and the float in the carburetor in Nevada was it for on the road repairs. The miles/people well stay. The smell may just end up staying too. Bob Dunahugh
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Re: [GMCnet] When will the smell/ fear of smoke go away? [message #328791 is a reply to message #328788] Sat, 03 February 2018 12:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bob D.:
I remember it well - racing from supper back to the track to find out which of our coaches it was - praying it was not ours all the way - then realizing upon arrival that indeed it was not ours, but it was our good friend's. Then went into prayer for you and Ed.
And shivering in our lawn chairs as we watched you get terrorized (I mean interrogated) by the fire marshal till 1:45 in am.
So very thankful (to this day) that you, Linda, Ed C. & your dog were not in it at the time. Coaches are replaceable as you discovered!!!
And we are glad you did my friend -
Motor On!!
Mike/The Corvair a holic

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> On Feb 3, 2018, at 12:17 PM, Bob Dunahugh wrote:
>
> It's been almost 2 and a half years since our first 78 Royale burned up at a road race track event in Hastings Nebraska. Aug 28th of 2015. Went outside this morning to be met with the smell of smoke from a neighbors fire place. In almost an instant. I looked at our shop that our second 78 Royale is parked in. We loved that GMC. And all the memories of the caring people we've met at all the GMCMI rallies that we've been to since 2003. The 42 states it took us to with no real problems. An alternator belt Missouri once, and the float in the carburetor in Nevada was it for on the road repairs. The miles/people well stay. The smell may just end up staying too. Bob Dunahugh
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Re: [GMCnet] When will the smell/ fear of smoke go away? [message #328800 is a reply to message #328788] Sat, 03 February 2018 13:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
BobDunahugh is currently offline  BobDunahugh   United States
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Mike. To say terrorize is a light way to put it. For those that don't know. The Nebraska fire Marshall declared it arson. And that I started the fire. If I turned it into our insurance company. He would have me arrested for insurance fraud. I told him that this GMC had been modified for a powered wheelchair. That's not insured. Plus why would I drive it 350 miles from home to burn it up. He said that I did it for the money. It turned out that he was later repromanded by his superiors. State Farms claims center were saints. This latest 78 Royale has been very dependable for it's first 10,000 miles. Except for all the failing fuel pumps. Bob Dunahugh



It's been almost 2 and a half years since our first 78 Royale burned up at a road race track event in Hastings Nebraska. Aug 28th of 2015. Went outside this morning to be met with the smell of smoke from a neighbors fire place. In almost an instant. I looked at our shop that our second 78 Royale is parked in. We loved that GMC. And all the memories of the caring people we've met at all the GMCMI rallies that we've been to since 2003. The 42 states it took us to with no real problems. An alternator belt Missouri once, and the float in the carburetor in Nevada was it for on the road repairs. The miles/people well stay. The smell may just end up staying too. Bob Dunahugh
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Re: [GMCnet] When will the smell/ fear of smoke go away? [message #328802 is a reply to message #328800] Sat, 03 February 2018 14:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jimmy_Bonez is currently offline  Jimmy_Bonez   United States
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Bob,
Jen and myself can relate to the struggle of losing a lot of memories from fire. When we lost our house last year to an electrical fire(faulty power strip in the basement) it was heart breaking. We lost our 3 cats and to this day is a constant memory wherever we travel. I to had to deal with a fire marshal, fortunately in our case he was more concerned about our well being and safety than anything that happened to our home. The insurance investigator on the other was less pleasant at first.
But like was said before along with your family members ours were safe and out of harms way.
Now we can all still spend time with our loved ones and adventure on. Glad your family was safe and wish you guys the best with all your travels.
Jim and Jen the Nomads

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> On Feb 3, 2018, at 12:42 PM, Bob Dunahugh wrote:
>
>
> Mike. To say terrorize is a light way to put it. For those that don't know. The Nebraska fire Marshall declared it arson. And that I started the fire. If I turned it into our insurance company. He would have me arrested for insurance fraud. I told him that this GMC had been modified for a powered wheelchair. That's not insured. Plus why would I drive it 350 miles from home to burn it up. He said that I did it for the money. It turned out that he was later repromanded by his superiors. State Farms claims center were saints. This latest 78 Royale has been very dependable for it's first 10,000 miles. Except for all the failing fuel pumps. Bob Dunahugh
>
>
>
> It's been almost 2 and a half years since our first 78 Royale burned up at a road race track event in Hastings Nebraska. Aug 28th of 2015. Went outside this morning to be met with the smell of smoke from a neighbors fire place. In almost an instant. I looked at our shop that our second 78 Royale is parked in. We loved that GMC. And all the memories of the caring people we've met at all the GMCMI rallies that we've been to since 2003. The 42 states it took us to with no real problems. An alternator belt Missouri once, and the float in the carburetor in Nevada was it for on the road repairs. The miles/people well stay. The smell may just end up staying too. Bob Dunahugh
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Re: [GMCnet] When will the smell/ fear of smoke go away? [message #328807 is a reply to message #328802] Sat, 03 February 2018 15:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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One of our GMC CASCADERS lost his coach to fire in the last few days. He
was out of town when it burned, so the cause is not known yet. Will keep
you all posted. That makes 6 coaches and 4 tow trucks (one of the coaches
was towed to a storage yard, where it caught fire and burned 4 tow trucks
with it.) that I have knowledge of. I am a firm believer in on board fire
suppression equipment. The Jims both have really good products. Don't know
if it would have helped in Bob's fire, though.
Jim Hupy

On Feb 3, 2018 12:40 PM, "Jim DeMellia" wrote:

> Bob,
> Jen and myself can relate to the struggle of losing a lot of memories from
> fire. When we lost our house last year to an electrical fire(faulty power
> strip in the basement) it was heart breaking. We lost our 3 cats and to
> this day is a constant memory wherever we travel. I to had to deal with a
> fire marshal, fortunately in our case he was more concerned about our well
> being and safety than anything that happened to our home. The insurance
> investigator on the other was less pleasant at first.
> But like was said before along with your family members ours were safe and
> out of harms way.
> Now we can all still spend time with our loved ones and adventure on. Glad
> your family was safe and wish you guys the best with all your travels.
> Jim and Jen the Nomads
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Feb 3, 2018, at 12:42 PM, Bob Dunahugh wrote:
>>
>>
>> Mike. To say terrorize is a light way to put it. For those that don't
> know. The Nebraska fire Marshall declared it arson. And that I started the
> fire. If I turned it into our insurance company. He would have me arrested
> for insurance fraud. I told him that this GMC had been modified for a
> powered wheelchair. That's not insured. Plus why would I drive it 350 miles
> from home to burn it up. He said that I did it for the money. It turned
> out that he was later repromanded by his superiors. State Farms claims
> center were saints. This latest 78 Royale has been very dependable for it's
> first 10,000 miles. Except for all the failing fuel pumps. Bob Dunahugh
>>
>>
>>
>> It's been almost 2 and a half years since our first 78 Royale burned up
> at a road race track event in Hastings Nebraska. Aug 28th of 2015. Went
> outside this morning to be met with the smell of smoke from a neighbors
> fire place. In almost an instant. I looked at our shop that our second 78
> Royale is parked in. We loved that GMC. And all the memories of the caring
> people we've met at all the GMCMI rallies that we've been to since 2003.
> The 42 states it took us to with no real problems. An alternator belt
> Missouri once, and the float in the carburetor in Nevada was it for on the
> road repairs. The miles/people well stay. The smell may just end up
> staying too. Bob Dunahugh
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Re: [GMCnet] When will the smell/ fear of smoke go away? [message #328808 is a reply to message #328800] Sat, 03 February 2018 16:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
BobDunahugh is currently offline  BobDunahugh   United States
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Jim. We lost nothing in comparison to losing what you lost. With fire. There's just nothing left. Bob Dunahugh


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Mike. To say terrorize is a light way to put it. For those that don't know. The Nebraska fire Marshall declared it arson. And that I started the fire. If I turned it into our insurance company. He would have me arrested for insurance fraud. I told him that this GMC had been modified for a powered wheelchair. That's not insured. Plus why would I drive it 350 miles from home to burn it up. He said that I did it for the money. It turned out that he was later repromanded by his superiors. State Farms claims center were saints. This latest 78 Royale has been very dependable for it's first 10,000 miles. Except for all the failing fuel pumps. Bob Dunahugh



It's been almost 2 and a half years since our first 78 Royale burned up at a road race track event in Hastings Nebraska. Aug 28th of 2015. Went outside this morning to be met with the smell of smoke from a neighbors fire place. In almost an instant. I looked at our shop that our second 78 Royale is parked in. We loved that GMC. And all the memories of the caring people we've met at all the GMCMI rallies that we've been to since 2003. The 42 states it took us to with no real problems. An alternator belt Missouri once, and the float in the carburetor in Nevada was it for on the road repairs. The miles/people well stay. The smell may just end up staying too. Bob Dunahugh
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Re: [GMCnet] When will the smell/ fear of smoke go away? [message #328809 is a reply to message #328788] Sat, 03 February 2018 17:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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John,

FYI: http://www.gmceast.com/technical/Mueller_GMCer-Fire-Guide.pdf

Regards,
Rob M.
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Is there enough data to isolate the most common cause? Is there a common
cause for these fires? Are most of them in the engine compartment? If you
keep the system stock do you still run as much fire risk?

John Phillips
74 Avon
Sacramento ca.



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Re: [GMCnet] When will the smell/ fear of smoke go away? [message #328810 is a reply to message #328808] Sat, 03 February 2018 17:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Is there enough data to isolate the most common cause? Is there a common
cause for these fires? Are most of them in the engine compartment? If you
keep the system stock do you still run as much fire risk?

John Phillips
74 Avon
Sacramento ca.

On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 2:17 PM, Bob Dunahugh wrote:

> Jim. We lost nothing in comparison to losing what you lost. With fire.
> There's just nothing left. Bob Dunahugh
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Bob Dunahugh
> Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 1:42 PM
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: RE: When will the smell/ fear of smoke go away?
>
>
>
> Mike. To say terrorize is a light way to put it. For those that don't
> know. The Nebraska fire Marshall declared it arson. And that I started the
> fire. If I turned it into our insurance company. He would have me arrested
> for insurance fraud. I told him that this GMC had been modified for a
> powered wheelchair. That's not insured. Plus why would I drive it 350 miles
> from home to burn it up. He said that I did it for the money. It turned
> out that he was later repromanded by his superiors. State Farms claims
> center were saints. This latest 78 Royale has been very dependable for it's
> first 10,000 miles. Except for all the failing fuel pumps. Bob Dunahugh
>
>
>
> It's been almost 2 and a half years since our first 78 Royale burned up at
> a road race track event in Hastings Nebraska. Aug 28th of 2015. Went
> outside this morning to be met with the smell of smoke from a neighbors
> fire place. In almost an instant. I looked at our shop that our second 78
> Royale is parked in. We loved that GMC. And all the memories of the caring
> people we've met at all the GMCMI rallies that we've been to since 2003.
> The 42 states it took us to with no real problems. An alternator belt
> Missouri once, and the float in the carburetor in Nevada was it for on the
> road repairs. The miles/people well stay. The smell may just end up
> staying too. Bob Dunahugh
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Re: [GMCnet] When will the smell/ fear of smoke go away? [message #328811 is a reply to message #328809] Sat, 03 February 2018 17:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks.

On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 3:37 PM, Rob Mueller wrote:

> John,
>
> FYI: http://www.gmceast.com/technical/Mueller_GMCer-Fire-Guide.pdf
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
> USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of John
> Phillips
> Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 10:30 AM
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> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] When will the smell/ fear of smoke go away?
>
> Is there enough data to isolate the most common cause? Is there a common
> cause for these fires? Are most of them in the engine compartment? If you
> keep the system stock do you still run as much fire risk?
>
> John Phillips
> 74 Avon
> Sacramento ca.
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] When will the smell/ fear of smoke go away? [message #328817 is a reply to message #328788] Sat, 03 February 2018 20:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
THOMAS R WHITTON is currently offline  THOMAS R WHITTON   United States
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Bob,I'm not sure if the fear of experiencing a fire ever goes away.  Here's a fire that I experienced...  My father-in-law and I were driving his pickup truck with every part except the body, frame and engine for a '57 T-Bird I was having restored out of state.  The load included, among other things, bumpers, convertible top, all the chrome for the car and the freshly upholstered seat placed right behind the rear window of the truck. The outside temp was about 60 or 65 on a sunny spring day. We didn't have the heater on.  I was driving and had flipped a cigarette out a few miles back.  My father-in-law felt heat and asked where it was coming from.  I told him I didn't know and felt down near the floor to feel if any hot air was coming out of the duct.  About then my father-in-law turned around to look out the back window and shouted "THIS THING'S ON FIRE!"  My cigarette butt had evidently landed on the T-Bird seat, smoldered and caught fire.  I immediately pulled to the side of the interstate, threw the transmission in park and we both jumped out.  At almost the same instant the back window blew out and fire blasted into the cab.  We barely made it out.  The pickup burned to the ground before the fire department got to us. All the freshly restored T-Bird parts were destroyed. That was 39-years ago.  A scare still comes over me for a second when hot sun suddenly shines on my face through the driver side window.  It took a long time but I replaced all the lost items.  A few months later I picked up my restored dream car.  It was black with red interior.  I'll never forget the fire or the fear that is still with me.Tom Whitton26 foot updated GMCPaducah, Ky
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Re: [GMCnet] When will the smell/ fear of smoke go away? [message #328905 is a reply to message #328788] Tue, 06 February 2018 22:36 Go to previous message
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Geeze...will be installing an engine compartment fire suppression system this spring. Had already decided to do so, but this post has helped to ensure it happens. At $400 I ask myself, Why isn't this already in my coach? As for Bob Donahugh's experience with a Nebraska Fire Marshall intent on an arson finding, I am amazed. What an A$$.

Jim Wack - 1976 23' Crestmont Baltimore, Maryland
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