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| [GMCnet] K&N / Edelbrock Air Filter? [message #326116] |
Fri, 17 November 2017 15:57  |
Dave Stragand
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Hi All,
It looks like the correct K&N washable/reusable air filter in part
number E-1650. They seem to run around $60. The specs are 14"OD and
3.063" high.
I ran across the Edelbrock 43666 (red) / 43667 (blue) / 43668 (black)
which run about $17 and have the same specs.
Has anyone tried these out? Killer price for a cotton gauze filter. I
bought one as an experiment. (Worst case is I can use it in my old
Edelbrock 14" air cleaner.)
-Dave
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| Re: [GMCnet] K&N / Edelbrock Air Filter? [message #326119 is a reply to message #326116] |
Fri, 17 November 2017 18:25  |
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Had a k&n replacement in mine to replace the stock one . I got a report back from black stone that suggested my oil sample had dirt in it and I may have a problem with my air filter. I then removed it and put in a new stock one. The next oil sample didn't have dirt in it. No more k&n for me.
Roy Keen
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76 X Glenbrook
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| Re: [GMCnet] K&N / Edelbrock Air Filter? [message #326127 is a reply to message #326119] |
Fri, 17 November 2017 20:32 |
jimk
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Roy,
We are also big into Industrial air a liquid filters , The K&N filter will
flow lot of are with minimal restriction ,so at the drag strip we love
them. However like you found out, the particular matter cannot be stopped
very well with the Viscus Impingment that the oiled cotton tries to do.
That principle of filtration is frowned on by all the diesel manufactures.
The particular matter will wear your engine so that the oil consumption
will increase but you'll like the added economy and power.
On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 4:25 PM, roy keen wrote:
> Had a k&n replacement in mine to replace the stock one . I got a report
> back from black stone that suggested my oil sample had dirt in it and I may
> have a problem with my air filter. I then removed it and put in a new
> stock one. The next oil sample didn't have dirt in it. No more k&n for me.
> --
> Roy Keen
> Minden,NV
> 76 X Glenbrook
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| Re: [GMCnet] K&N / Edelbrock Air Filter? [message #326266 is a reply to message #326127] |
Wed, 22 November 2017 16:04 |
lw8000
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jimk wrote on Fri, 17 November 2017 20:32Roy,
We are also big into Industrial air a liquid filters , The K&N filter will
flow lot of are with minimal restriction ,so at the drag strip we love
them. However like you found out, the particular matter cannot be stopped
very well with the Viscus Impingment that the oiled cotton tries to do.
That principle of filtration is frowned on by all the diesel manufactures.
The particular matter will wear your engine so that the oil consumption
will increase but you'll like the added economy and power.
On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 4:25 PM, roy keen wrote:
> Had a k&n replacement in mine to replace the stock one . I got a report
> back from black stone that suggested my oil sample had dirt in it and I may
> have a problem with my air filter. I then removed it and put in a new
> stock one. The next oil sample didn't have dirt in it. No more k&n for me.
> --
> Roy Keen
> Minden,NV
> 76 X Glenbrook
>
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What about other filters that are made of "synthetic" materials? We currently have one under the Spectre brand because we had to go with a lower profile housing. We are using this one:
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/spe-hpr8699/overview/
It doesn't say it's straight cotton but says "synthetic". Is this something to be concerned with??
Thanks!
Chris S. -
77 Kingsley, 3.70 FD, mostly OEM -
S.E. Michigan
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| Re: [GMCnet] K&N / Edelbrock Air Filter? [message #326267 is a reply to message #326266] |
Wed, 22 November 2017 16:11 |
jimk
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From what Little I know about that type and brand, I feel it is lot better
than the K&N. Just follow the instruction on the washing of the media.
On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 2:04 PM, Chris S. wrote:
> jimk wrote on Fri, 17 November 2017 20:32
>> Roy,
>> We are also big into Industrial air a liquid filters , The K&N filter
> will
>> flow lot of are with minimal restriction ,so at the drag strip we love
>> them. However like you found out, the particular matter cannot be stopped
>> very well with the Viscus Impingment that the oiled cotton tries to do.
>> That principle of filtration is frowned on by all the diesel
> manufactures.
>> The particular matter will wear your engine so that the oil consumption
>> will increase but you'll like the added economy and power.
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 4:25 PM, roy keen wrote:
>>
>>> Had a k&n replacement in mine to replace the stock one . I got a
> report
>>> back from black stone that suggested my oil sample had dirt in it and
> I may
>>> have a problem with my air filter. I then removed it and put in a new
>>> stock one. The next oil sample didn't have dirt in it. No more k&n
> for me.
>>> --
>>> Roy Keen
>>> Minden,NV
>>> 76 X Glenbrook
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> GMCnet mailing list
>>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jim Kanomata
>> Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
>> jimk@appliedairfilters.com
>> http://www.appliedgmc.com
>> 1-800-752-7502
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> What about other filters that are made of "synthetic" materials? We
> currently have one under the Spectre brand because we had to go with a lower
> profile housing. We are using this one:
>
> https://www.summitracing.com/parts/spe-hpr8699/overview/
>
> It doesn't say it's straight cotton but says "synthetic". Is this
> something to be concerned with??
>
> Thanks!
> --
> Chris S. -
> 77 Kingsley, 3.70 FD, mostly OEM -
> S.E. Michigan
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| Re: [GMCnet] K&N / Edelbrock Air Filter? [message #326268 is a reply to message #326267] |
Wed, 22 November 2017 16:55 |
Dave Stragand
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Edelbrock lists the following description on their web site. They call
it a 'poly synthetic media', and state that it isn't cotton. It's also
the dry filter type that does not need to be oiled. (I have a similar
dry-filter on my SRT Magnum and it keeps the throttle body and intake
spotless.)
I'll try and post a video review of what it looks like when it comes in.
Sorry I won't be able to do a long-term test yet. My coach's oil is 10
years old at present. (Working on that).
-Dave
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] K&N / Edelbrock Air Filter?
> From what Little I know about that type and brand, I feel it is lot
> better
than the K&N. Just follow the instruction on the washing of the media.
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| Re: [GMCnet] K&N / Edelbrock Air Filter? [message #326321 is a reply to message #326116] |
Fri, 24 November 2017 20:37 |
Ernest Dankert
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It would be an interesting experiment to use a K+N as a pre filter to a paper filter and
see how much "passed by".
If I could be convinced to use a K+N I would perform an oil analysis and watch the Si (silicon)
level like a hawk.
1977 Eleganza II
Ogden NY
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| Re: [GMCnet] K&N / Edelbrock Air Filter? [message #326323 is a reply to message #326321] |
Fri, 24 November 2017 22:34 |
jimk
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When we use to race, we used sometimes metal filters coated with oil.
Without filters the air around the carb would not get pulled in in a semi
Laminar fashion and made a difference.
So we made it a rule to change oil after racing to cut down on wear from
the abrasive particulates.
Oil filters filter only 25% as the engine RPM is high and the pressure at
the filter is high enough for the bypass to open majority of the time.
Racing filters had lower restriction, but it did not filter smaller
particulets.
On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 6:37 PM, Ernest Dankert
wrote:
> It would be an interesting experiment to use a K+N as a pre filter to a
> paper filter and
> see how much "passed by".
>
> If I could be convinced to use a K+N I would perform an oil analysis and
> watch the Si (silicon)
> level like a hawk.
> --
> 1977 Eleganza II
> Ogden NY
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