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Sat, 09 September 2017 13:15  |
kstockwell
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I think my CV boot blew out; I noticed a ring of grease in the passenger wheel well; looked in and see this. I drove home (200 miles). Is this the boot only?
Remove wheel; replace boot, fill with grease?
Thank you, more dumb questions to follow
-kelly
1978 Kingsley
Putney VT
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| Re: [GMCnet] is this my cv boot? [message #323652 is a reply to message #323649] |
Sat, 09 September 2017 14:14  |
Kingsley Coach
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Remove wheel, remove axle, replace boot having filled it with grease, clamp
tight with metal clamps, replace axle, replace wheel.....torque
everything. Now did you really think it was going to be a simple job??
Mike in NS
On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 3:15 PM, kelly stockwell wrote:
> I think my CV boot blew out; I noticed a ring of grease in the passenger
> wheel well; looked in and see this. I drove home (200 miles). Is this the
> boot only?
> Remove wheel; replace boot, fill with grease?
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> Thank you, more dumb questions to follow
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> -kelly
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| Re: [GMCnet] is this my cv boot? [message #323653 is a reply to message #323652] |
Sat, 09 September 2017 14:26 |
kstockwell
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No I did not!
But it sounds straightforward at least.
Kingsley Coach wrote on Sat, 09 September 2017 15:14Remove wheel, remove axle, replace boot having filled it with grease, clamp
tight with metal clamps, replace axle, replace wheel.....torque
everything. Now did you really think it was going to be a simple job??
Mike in NS
On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 3:15 PM, kelly stockwell wrote:
> I think my CV boot blew out; I noticed a ring of grease in the passenger
> wheel well; looked in and see this. I drove home (200 miles). Is this the
> boot only?
> Remove wheel; replace boot, fill with grease?
>
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> Thank you, more dumb questions to follow
>
> -kelly
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> 1978 Kingsley
> Putney VT
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| Re: is this my cv boot? [message #323655 is a reply to message #323649] |
Sat, 09 September 2017 15:21 |
kingd
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Having done outer CVs on other Front wheel drive vehicles, I think I'm
about to complicate the process.
Unless the poster asking the question is going to use a "split" boot that
bolts together, does he not have to remove the outer stub axle to install
the new boot ?
Also, I didnt think the procedure was to fill the new boot with grease.
The grease is supposed to end up in the actual CV joint not in the boot, although
some will go these, Depending on the condition of the old grease and how old it is should
not the old grease be flushed from the joint ? To the people who do this all the time eg Jim Hupy
and others, should the CV be taken apart to clean it?
Also I believe to complicate matter, I believe correct new shafts are NOT available but I think
properlyREBUILT shafts are available from some of the GMCMH suppliers eg COOP, Applied, etc.
If youve never rebuild a CV axle and don't have access to a shop you would trust, I would suggest you
get a rebuilt shaft. You will also next six each of the correct bolts for the inner end.
Not to restart the debate but if the inner bolts are torqued to the 'gm specified torque the
bolts are "supposed" to be one time use. Lots of GMCers may be on there way to the convention
in Elkhart Indiana
DAVE KING
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Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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| Re: [GMCnet] is this my cv boot? [message #323658 is a reply to message #323652] |
Sat, 09 September 2017 15:34 |
James Hupy
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Simplest way would be to replace entire axle assy. Some coaches are as
simple as turning the steering full lock, removing the 6 ea 12 point bolts
on the flange, shoving the axle up towards the radiator far enough to allow
the splines on the axle to clear the knuckle. Then, withdraw the axle.
Other coaches, not so easy. Remove the shock, unbolt the upper control arm
fasteners, lower the whole shebang to obtain clearance, remove the axle and
replace. That's for the drivers side. Passenger side, remove the oil filter
too.
Jim Hupy
On Sep 9, 2017 1:21 PM, "Dave King" wrote:
Having done outer CVs on other Front wheel drive vehicles, I think I'm
about to complicate the process.
Unless the poster asking the question is going to use a "split" boot that
bolts together, does he not have to remove the outer stub axle to install
the new boot ?
Also, I didnt think the procedure was to fill the new boot with grease.
The grease is supposed to end up in the actual CV joint not in the boot,
although
some will go these, Depending on the condition of the old grease and how
old it is should
not the old grease be flushed from the joint ? To the people who do this
all the time eg Jim Hupy
and others, should the CV be taken apart to clean it?
Also I believe to complicate matter, I believe correct new shafts are NOT
available but I think
properlyREBUILT shafts are available from some of the GMCMH suppliers eg
COOP, Applied, etc.
If youve never rebuild a CV axle and don't have access to a shop you would
trust, I would suggest you
get a rebuilt shaft. You will also next six each of the correct bolts for
the inner end.
Not to restart the debate but if the inner bolts are torqued to the 'gm
specified torque the
bolts are "supposed" to be one time use. Lots of GMCers may be on there way
to the convention
in Elkart Indiana
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DAVE KING
lurker, wannabe
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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| Re: is this my cv boot? [message #323659 is a reply to message #323649] |
Sat, 09 September 2017 15:50 |
77Royale
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You only need to replace the actually cv if it's bad or pitted. But it would need to be removed from the shaft and cleaned and inspected to tell. It's not a bad job to replace the boot. But it's greasy. You need to get the wheel off the ground and you need a big arse torque wrench and big breaker bar to loosen the nut on the outer end of the cv. Like 3/4 inch drive size and probably a 6 foot cheater pipe on the end of that.
Some have had success with using the split boot. That saves a ton of time and work. And you don't really need to remove much
Use the grease pack that comes with the new boot. Pack it in the cv joint. Not the boot itself. The clamp it up.
The band clamping tool is only a few bucks but you do need it.
77 Royale, Rear Dry Bath. 403, 3.55 Final Drive, Lenzi goodies, Patterson carb and dizzy.
Mid Michigan
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| Re: is this my cv boot? [message #323661 is a reply to message #323649] |
Sat, 09 September 2017 16:02 |
jhbridges
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I did both outers on my coach when I got it. Not a hard job, but dirty.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: is this my cv boot? [message #323664 is a reply to message #323662] |
Sat, 09 September 2017 16:44 |
kstockwell
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I think it went on the way to Maine (200 miles) and then I drove home. I was under there before the trip and there was no grease splattered before my trip. It's a new development I saw in Maine, i noticed the wheel well had a grease spray pattern in it. The grease is not dirty yet around the joint/boot.
I haven't put my finger in it, but it looks really goopy. It may be worth trying out the temporary solution.
Matt Colie wrote on Sat, 09 September 2017 17:08kstockwell wrote on Sat, 09 September 2017 16:56I saw the Speedi Boot is that a good idea? How long would it be good for?
http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/1832
Kelly,
First question - do you have any idea how long that boot has been run damaged?
If you put a finger in the crack and it comes back with lots of grease on it, a split boot may be a good "Temporary" repair.
We have a local owner that has two of them in service and the older one is probably 3 years a 5,000 miles. That one has served well.
These are a classic case of a 220$ job. 20$ for parts, the rest is labor.
Matt
1978 Kingsley
Putney VT
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| Re: is this my cv boot? [message #323672 is a reply to message #323664] |
Sat, 09 September 2017 18:58 |
77Royale
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Good on you for taking a good visual inspection of everything PRE Trip. That way you know when something has changed.
77 Royale, Rear Dry Bath. 403, 3.55 Final Drive, Lenzi goodies, Patterson carb and dizzy.
Mid Michigan
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