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Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   United States
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Well, I wish I has thought of this sooner.... Look up "Wheel Dolly" at Hazard Fright.

This makes managing wheels a bunch easier.

I've owned 4 of these for more than few years. I got them to move the 6k# sailboat on a trailer sideways in the barn. Yeah, I did the bit with both magazines and then wet sheets of PE, but that gets old fast.

Recently, I had to replace 2 shocks (one front and one rear) and I was struggling with 80# wheels to get them lined up with studs. Then I had to move something, (if you should see my barn, this would be no surprise) and uncovered the stack of "Gojacks" as they are trade named. The LED (only recently upgraded) in my brain finally lit. I dragged out one of them and stood the loose wheel in it and pushed it clear of the work area.

When I got done and wanted to put the wheel back, I pushed it back to the center of the hub and was going to adjust the jack, when I said to my self,"Hey Stupid - the tire is on a jack." So, I pumped the wheel dolly until the studs were close and with the tire on the rollers, rotating it to mate it with the studs was simple.

I just wish that I had though of this on the first wheel.

If you live in striking range and would like to borrow one or more, let me know. They aren't making anybody any money while stacked in my barn.

Matt


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Re: Makes it easy to manage wheels [message #321880 is a reply to message #321879] Thu, 10 August 2017 08:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Not a bad idea!

I just sit down with my legs under the tire and lift with my legs


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Re: [GMCnet] Makes it easy to manage wheels [message #321889 is a reply to message #321880] Thu, 10 August 2017 10:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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Pick em up, hold em at arms length, and jam em onto the studs. Ez-Pz. Whats
that, you can't lift them any more? Hmm?
What's up with that? Try it after they saw through your sternum with a bone
saw and wire it back together with wire the size of bicycle spokes. And put
you on 10 pound weight lifting restrictions for a year. Even if you were
king Kong before that, afterwards is a reality check of the highest order.
Work smarter, not harder. Leverage is your friend. I use a 2 foot long
piece of car leaf spring welded onto a piece of thick wall tubing about 18"
long, and a short piece of 4 x 4 for a fulcrum. A bit of practice, and you
are golden. Just what I do.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon
78 GMC ROYALE 403

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Re: Makes it easy to manage wheels [message #321891 is a reply to message #321879] Thu, 10 August 2017 10:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Twice the price, but possibly better quality option...

http://www.eastwood.com/eastwood-hydraulic-wheel-dolly-2pc-set.html?SRCCODE=PLA00020&product_id=30551&adpos=1o1&creative=83580269220&d evice=c&matchtype=&network=g&gclid=Cj0KCQjwiLDMBRDFARIsACNmiX_bZoAddiqJB9vdNhzfyeil9RmbB1gc3ZgI7-F3AGJhL2pmCCx5FfMaAnoEEALw_wcB


..actually if I am reading the ads correctly, It looks like the Harbor Freight price is for a single unit, and the Eastwood price is for the pair. Hmmm.



Paul Zerkel
'78 Eleganza II
Salisbury IL (near Springfield)

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Re: Makes it easy to manage wheels [message #321894 is a reply to message #321891] Thu, 10 August 2017 11:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
pjburt is currently offline  pjburt   United States
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The details say that price is for 2. That would be about $5 more per jack.

pzerkel wrote on Thu, 10 August 2017 08:20
Twice the price, but possibly better quality option...

http://www.eastwood.com/eastwood-hydraulic-wheel-dolly-2pc-set.html?SRCCODE=PLA00020&product_id=30551&adpos=1o1&creative=83580269220&d evice=c&matchtype=&network=g&gclid=Cj0KCQjwiLDMBRDFARIsACNmiX_bZoAddiqJB9vdNhzfyeil9RmbB1gc3ZgI7-F3AGJhL2pmCCx5FfMaAnoEEALw_wcB


..actually if I am reading the ads correctly, It looks like the Harbor Freight price is for a single unit, and the Eastwood price is for the pair. Hmmm.




Jerry Burt Fresno, CA.
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Re: Makes it easy to manage wheels [message #321905 is a reply to message #321879] Thu, 10 August 2017 13:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I had to change a tire on the Sprinter last week. Same size as the GMC. BUT the Sprinter uses bolts, not studs. It took me 20 minutes of trail-and-error jacking and shimming to get rim to line up. Mercedes, besides having the brainstorm of using bolts, also decided to make the tolerance so close you couldn't get the threads to catch unless it was **exact**. I was so frustrated that I considered calling a $$$ truck service to come try their hand at it but finally got it lined up.

Thanks for the headzup, Matt, I don't need another hernia. I just ordered these
https://www.amazon.com/Goplus-Vehicle-Positioning-Moving-Capacity/dp/B01N5G294Q/


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Re: Makes it easy to manage wheels [message #321912 is a reply to message #321891] Thu, 10 August 2017 16:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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pzerkel wrote on Thu, 10 August 2017 11:20
Twice the price, but possibly better quality option...

http://www.eastwood.com/eastwood-hydraulic-wheel-dolly-2pc-set.html?SRCCODE=PLA00020&product_id=30551&adpos=1o1&creative=83580269220&d evice=c&matchtype=&network=g&gclid=Cj0KCQjwiLDMBRDFARIsACNmiX_bZoAddiqJB9vdNhzfyeil9RmbB1gc3ZgI7-F3AGJhL2pmCCx5FfMaAnoEEALw_wcB

..actually if I am reading the ads correctly, It looks like the Harbor Freight price is for a single unit, and the Eastwood price is for the pair. Hmmm.


That actually looks much closer to what I have.

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] Makes it easy to manage wheels [message #321913 is a reply to message #321879] Thu, 10 August 2017 17:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Matt,

Brilliant idea!

I have four of the Pittsburgh Automotive - Item #61917 / Item #62234 Dollies in Houston and four in a crate that will get shipped to
Sydney.

I use them to move the 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee I got from John Sharpe in my storage facility in Houston. I was using a set of item
#67338 / item #60343.

John and I found that the item #61917 / item #62234 swiveled MUCH easier than the item #67338 / item #60343.

I bought both sets when they were on sale for $69.99 each making a full set $279.96 plus $6.99 ground shipping for a total of
$286.99. Eastwood's are $379.94 plus $93.06 shipping making a total of $472.94 which is almost $200 more.

I would also like to point out that the Harbor Freight units are mechanical, they have a ratchet that engages as you raise the car
whereas the Eastwood units are hydraulic.

Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808


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Subject: [GMCnet] Makes it easy to manage wheels

Well, I wish I has thought of this sooner.... Look up "Wheel Dolly" at Hazard Fright.

This makes managing wheels a bunch easier.

I've owned 4 of these for more than few years. I got them to move the 6k# sailboat on a trailer sideways in the barn. Yeah, I did
the bit with both magazines and then wet sheets of PE, but that gets old fast.

Recently, I had to replace 2 shocks (one front and one rear) and I was struggling with 80# wheels to get them lined up with studs.
Then I had to move something, (if you should see my barn, this would be no surprise) and uncovered the stack of "Gojacks" as they
are trade named. The LED (only recently upgraded) in my brain finally lit. I dragged out one of them and stood the loose wheel in
it and pushed it clear of the work area.

When I got done and wanted to put the wheel back, I pushed it back to the center of the hub and was going to adjust the jack, when I
said to my self, "Hey Stupid - the tire is on a jack." So, I pumped the wheel dolly until the studs were close and with the tire on
the rollers, rotating it to mate it with the studs was simple.

I just wish that I had though of this on the first wheel.

If you live in striking range and would like to borrow one or more, let me know. They aren't making anybody any money while stacked
in my barn.

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] Makes it easy to manage wheels [message #321930 is a reply to message #321913] Fri, 11 August 2017 11:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The Germans and their wisdom surrounding the use of wheel bolts isn't totally flawed. On many of the German vehicles, there is usually a long straight rod that you are supposed to insert through the wheel bolt-hole, and the hub bolt-hole, levering the wheel onto the hub. This rod automatically aligns the bolt holes, and holds the wheel in place while you insert a bolt in an adjacent hole.

Depending on the vehicle, this alignment rod could be the jack handle, the wheel bolt wrench handle, or a totally separate item in the tool kit. Reading the owner's manual will usually provide the correct method for wheel removal/ installation, and often explains the use of this tool.

There are also aftermarket installation aids which are basically a 4" long stud with a rounded end. You simply screw it into one of the wheel bolt holes in the hub, glide the wheel onto the stud and bingo, it is aligned and self supporting, ready for you to install the adjacent bolts.

When served lemons, we make lemonade.

Les Burt
Montreal
'75 Eleganza 26'


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Re: Makes it easy to manage wheels [message #321935 is a reply to message #321879] Fri, 11 August 2017 12:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks for the info, Les. There wasn't a jack, lug wrench, or handle with it when I bought it. I'll check in the floorboard toolbox to see if there's any sort of alignment rod.

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Re: [GMCnet] Makes it easy to manage wheels [message #321941 is a reply to message #321930] Fri, 11 August 2017 16:36 Go to previous message
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G'day,

See the TOOLS section of Ragusa http://www.ragusarv.com/

RV-09

Wheel Lifter Bar

This lever bar allows you to lift heavy tires by placing the lifter into the center hole of wheel and over 4" dust cap. Lift wheel
and rotate to locate studs.

$29.00 ea.

Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808

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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Makes it easy to manage wheels

The Germans and their wisdom surrounding the use of wheel bolts isn't totally flawed. On many of the German vehicles, there is
usually a long straight rod that you are supposed to insert through the wheel bolt-hole, and the hub bolt-hole, levering the wheel
onto the hub. This rod automatically aligns the bolt holes, and holds the wheel in place while you insert a bolt in an adjacent
hole.

Depending on the vehicle, this alignment rod could be the jack handle, the wheel bolt wrench handle, or a totally separate item in
the tool kit. Reading the owner's manual will usually provide the correct method for wheel removal/ installation, and often explains
the use of this tool.

There are also aftermarket installation aids which are basically a 4" long stud with a rounded end. You simply screw it into one of
the wheel bolt holes in the hub, glide the wheel onto the stud and bingo, it is aligned and self supporting, ready for you to
install the adjacent bolts.

When served lemons, we make lemonade.

Les Burt
Montreal
'75 Eleganza 26'



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