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Simple Solution for Fuel Line Issues? [message #320262] Mon, 10 July 2017 12:38 Go to next message
SMT is currently offline  SMT   United States
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Hi All,

Looking for some quick advice on our 76 Palm Beach. Took the cover off after a mild winter and couldn't get her started. We went through all the suggested processes without any luck. I was about to have the coach towed to Mike in New Hampshire when I noticed a rubber line hanging down near the front passenger side of the coach. I'm including some photos here, one from the side and one from underneath the coach. Is this a simple line that I can reconnect as a temporary solution before having the lines redone? I'd hate to have the coach towed if we don't have to and we're not ready yet to take on repairs under the coach.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/7064/medium/IMG_1324.jpg

Thanks in advance,

Sara and Jay Meyers


Sara
1976 Palm Beach

Lynnfield, MA
Re: Simple Solution for Fuel Line Issues? [message #320263 is a reply to message #320262] Mon, 10 July 2017 13:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Doesnt appear to be the fuel line going from the hard line to the pump as in the background of the photo it still looks like there is a hose clamp on it. What does the other end of that hose connect to of you can tell??

Looks like there is a old puddle of sorts under the hose? Gas or oil if you can tell?

What other processes have you tried to get it started? Sure your getting spark?




77 Royale, Rear Dry Bath. 403, 3.55 Final Drive, Lenzi goodies, Patterson carb and dizzy. Mid Michigan
Re: Simple Solution for Fuel Line Issues? [message #320265 is a reply to message #320263] Mon, 10 July 2017 13:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SMT is currently offline  SMT   United States
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Hi there,

Thanks for your quick reply! I did a little more investigating and it appears this line originates at the engine coolant tank and as such I'm guessing it doesn't have much to do with the problem.

So far, we followed the owners manual for engine starting procedures and troubleshooting. We've also had successful starts hitting it with starting fluid but it stops running after about 5-10 seconds.


Sara
1976 Palm Beach

Lynnfield, MA
Re: [GMCnet] Simple Solution for Fuel Line Issues? [message #320266 is a reply to message #320262] Mon, 10 July 2017 13:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
emerystora is currently offline  emerystora   United States
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I doubt that is a fuel line. It might be disconnected from the carbon vapor canister located right above the end of it.

Did you check for spark?
Pull one of the spark plugs and put in a phillips screwdriver into the end of the plug wire. Hold the side of the screwdriver near a metal piece (such as the frame of the motorbox cover). Crank the engine. You should see a spark across the gap between the screwdriver and the metal part. If you don’t see a spark then try replacing the module inside the distributor. Let us know if that solves the problem. If not we have other suggestions.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO

> On Jul 10, 2017, at 11:38 AM, Sara Teague wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Looking for some quick advice on our 76 Palm Beach. Took the cover off after a mild winter and couldn't get her started. We went through all the
> suggested processes without any luck. I was about to have the coach towed to Mike in New Hampshire when I noticed a rubber line hanging down near the
> front passenger side of the coach. I'm including some photos here, one from the side and one from underneath the coach. Is this a simple line that I
> can reconnect as a temporary solution before having the lines redone? I'd hate to have the coach towed if we don't have to and we're not ready yet to
> take on repairs under the coach.
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/7064/medium/IMG_1324.jpg
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Sara and Jay Meyers
> --
> Sara
>
> GMC Wannabe
>
> Brooklyn,NY by way of Detroit,MI
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Re: [GMCnet] Simple Solution for Fuel Line Issues? [message #320267 is a reply to message #320263] Mon, 10 July 2017 13:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nelson is currently offline  Nelson   United States
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My guess is that the hose that appears in the photo is the overflow from the radiator that comes from the outlet next to the pressure Cap the radiator.
Squirt some starting fluid down the carburetor throat and immediately try starting. If nothing happens you probably have and ignition problem.

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Orlando Fl.

> On Jul 10, 2017, at 2:03 PM, Wayne Rogewski wrote:
>
> Doesnt appear to be the fuel line going from the hard line to the pump as in the background of the photo it still looks like there is a hose clamp on
> it. What does the other end of that hose connect to of you can tell??
>
> Looks like there is a old puddle of sorts under the hose? Gas or oil if you can tell?
>
> What other processes have you tried to get it started? Sure your getting spark?
>
>
>
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Re: Simple Solution for Fuel Line Issues? [message #320268 is a reply to message #320262] Mon, 10 July 2017 14:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lqqkatjon is currently offline  lqqkatjon   United States
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These
Are
Notorious for
Being tough to start after
Storage

Give me a call to discuss what you have tried
And what i can tell you to try to avoid a tow.

Jon 612-961-4196


Jon Roche 75 palm beach EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now. St. Cloud, MN http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
Re: [GMCnet] Simple Solution for Fuel Line Issues? [message #320269 is a reply to message #320265] Mon, 10 July 2017 14:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
emerystora is currently offline  emerystora   United States
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That means that you are getting spark but no fuel.

You might have a clogged fuel filter or a broken fuel line.

I assume you have checked to see that you have fuel in the tanks.

It could also be a bad fuel selector valve. If it's stuck you might be getting air in the line.

Emery Stora

> On Jul 10, 2017, at 12:29 PM, Sara Teague wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
> Thanks for your quick reply! I did a little more investigating and it appears this line originates at the engine coolant tank and as such I'm guessing
> it doesn't have much to do with the problem.
>
> So far, we followed the owners manual for engine starting procedures and troubleshooting. We've also had successful starts hitting it with starting
> fluid but it stops running after about 5-10 seconds.
> --
> Sara
>
> 1976 Palm Beach
>
> Lynnfield, MA
>
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Re: Simple Solution for Fuel Line Issues? [message #320281 is a reply to message #320262] Mon, 10 July 2017 23:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Have you tried pumping the gas pedal while cranking the engine? If my coach sits for a while maybe a month or two I have to do this to get it started maybe pump the pedal 15 or 20 times maybe more. I understand it is hard to flood the engine.
Larry


Larry Hopkins 75 Avion Springfield, IL
Re: [GMCnet] Simple Solution for Fuel Line Issues? [message #320284 is a reply to message #320268] Tue, 11 July 2017 00:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Graham Mace is currently offline  Graham Mace   Canada
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Just for your info,

Put in an inline booster elec pump, between filter & mechanical pump. Works just like a primer, after your engine starts, just switch it off. The fuel runs right through just like a fuel line. If you need a part#, I'll have to send tomorrow.
Also works good if you have a vapour lock issue.

Cheers,
Graham
76 Palm Beach,
Nanaimo, BC


From: "Jon Roche"
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Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 12:32:01 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Simple Solution for Fuel Line Issues?

These
Are
Notorious for
Being tough to start after
Storage

Give me a call to discuss what you have tried
And what i can tell you to try to avoid a tow.

Jon 612-961-4196
--
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
St. Cloud, MN
http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/

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Re: Simple Solution for Fuel Line Issues? [message #320287 is a reply to message #320262] Tue, 11 July 2017 07:54 Go to previous message
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If it vrooms on starting fluid, it's got spark - but no fuel. Replace the carb inlet filter, they're cheep. If it's been sitting, fir it off a boat tank... if it runs, rehab the fuel system. If it doesn't, go through the carb, or swap it with a rebuild - Applied or Dick Patterson among others have Motorhome rebuilds.

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Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons. Braselton, Ga. I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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