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| Rusty Balls!!! [message #319058] |
Thu, 15 June 2017 12:47  |
g.winger
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Yep,,, I gots rusty balls. Fired her up after new F.I. install and found a catch in the steering. Oh-oh,,,, completely full of water. Balls are bad but the cage and the star look saveable. Does any one know the diameter?? Worked on it for hours and have reinstalled but not driven yet. had a cracked spark plug so the F.I. was really confused,,,,,(on the short test drive),,,, PL
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| Re: Rusty Balls!!! [message #319111 is a reply to message #319058] |
Fri, 16 June 2017 10:24  |
JohnL455
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Jim K has the the kit but first try clean and repack with Synpower. It may work fine. There was also a thread on which balls to order from McMaster.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
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| Re: [GMCnet] Rusty Balls!!! [message #319115 is a reply to message #319111] |
Fri, 16 June 2017 13:17 |
Bruce Hart
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What is the application? Axle cv joint, steering cv joint, or muffler
bearing?
On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 9:24 AM, John R. Lebetski
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> Jim K has the the kit but first try clean and repack with Synpower. It may
> work fine. There was also a thread on which balls to order from McMaster.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Rusty Balls!!! [message #319120 is a reply to message #319115] |
Fri, 16 June 2017 14:38 |
Adrien G.
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Bruce, the muffler bearings are too small, after all, they spin around with the exhaust gasses to keep the muffler in perfect balance.
LOL
Bruce Hart wrote on Fri, 16 June 2017 11:17What is the application? Axle cv joint, steering cv joint, or muffler
bearing?
On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 9:24 AM, John R. Lebetski
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> Jim K has the the kit but first try clean and repack with Synpower. It may
> work fine. There was also a thread on which balls to order from McMaster.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Rusty Balls!!! [message #319121 is a reply to message #319115] |
Fri, 16 June 2017 14:38 |
Adrien G.
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Bruce Hart wrote ojavascript:%20insertTag(document.post_form.msg_body,%20'',%20'%20:(%20');n Fri, 16 June 2017 11:17What is the application? Axle cv joint, steering cv joint, or muffler
bearing?
On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 9:24 AM, John R. Lebetski
wrote:
> Jim K has the the kit but first try clean and repack with Synpower. It may
> work fine. There was also a thread on which balls to order from McMaster.
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Yuba City,Ca. Text 530-nine-3-three-3-nine-nine-6
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| Re: [GMCnet] Rusty Balls!!! [message #319123 is a reply to message #319121] |
Fri, 16 June 2017 14:57 |
Adrien G.
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My laptop played with me on the last upload
Bruce,
Last i checked, muffler bearings are too small for what his working on.
After all, they spin with the exhaust gasses in the muffler to keep the muffler in balance.
If you don't grease the muffler bearings often enough, the muffler will rust and will need replacing.
Call me if you can't find the grease fitting.
That's all folks.
Adrien & Jenny Genesoto
75 Glenbrook (26-3) Mods LS3.70 FD / Reaction Sys / 80mm Front&Intermidiate / Hydroboost / 16" Tires / Frame Rebuild / Interior Rebuild
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| Re: [GMCnet] Rusty Balls!!! [message #319323 is a reply to message #319128] |
Tue, 20 June 2017 07:56 |
Richard Denney
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Bruce asked what is the application, and I have to repeat that question.
What is the application? The original post to which John Lebetski was
responding was apparently posted on the forum by a non-GMCnet member, and
it never appeared in email form.
If it is the steering CV joint, I second the recommendation to repack with
Valvoline Synpower after removing any rust--it just may work fine. But 5/8"
is not the correct size for the steering CV joint. The correct size is
0.623", and 5/8" will bind. Ask me how I know.
Rick "who still has a box of 5/8" balls around here somewhere, but couldn't
find it last time someone asked" Denney
On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 7:58 PM, Shaun wrote:
> 5/8". PM me your address and I'll send you 6
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| Re: [GMCnet] Rusty Balls!!! [message #319333 is a reply to message #319323] |
Tue, 20 June 2017 10:54 |
Ken Burton
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Rick, The original poster is a GMC net member with 792 postings. You might look at your email provider as to why you missed it.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Rusty Balls!!! [message #319337 is a reply to message #319333] |
Tue, 20 June 2017 13:56 |
Richard Denney
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So, given that I couldn't see it, and given that nobody quoted from the
original post, I went to the forum (which I don't normally do--it took a
while to remember that login!) and I see that the original poster is Paul
Leavitt. I've searched and searched around my Gmail inbox, and I don't see
any emails from him since March, 2014. Perhaps the list owner ought to
check and make sure his forum posts are making it to the reflector,
assuming other email users also didn't see it. I checked my spam folder
(not there), and even searched all my unfiltered inbox (which is archived
back to 2010 and has 54,000 message in it), and that's what I found.
Anyway, yes, he's talking about the steering column CV joint, so my comment
is still relevant: The balls they use are not a full 5/8", but about
0.002ish smaller. I couldn't make 5/8" balls work. But I know from
experience that Synpower will work even on rusty balls, once the rust is
removed. I drove from Charlotte to NoVA with severely corroded balls lubed
with Synpower--the same balls that had made the drive down to Charlotte
most unpleasant (and dangerous)--back about a decade ago.
(I also noticed that my old registration on the forum, under user name
"Rick Denney", is disconnected from the posts I've made since 2010, which
are under user name "Richard Denney", presumably because that's how my
Gmail address is configured. Funny goings-on over there in forum-land!)
Rick "a forum member since it was a phorum" Denney
On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 11:54 AM, Ken Burton wrote:
> Rick, The original poster is a GMC net member with 792 postings. You
> might look at your email provider as to why you missed it.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Rusty Balls!!! [message #319339 is a reply to message #319337] |
Tue, 20 June 2017 14:05 |
James Hupy
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Heck, Rick. I thought that he was jokingly referring to the rusty balls in
muffler bearings. Way I figure, it doesn't matter much what size they are.
I failed to catch the steering CV reference. Those things do matter. So
does the type of grease you lube that critter with.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403
On Jun 20, 2017 11:57 AM, "Richard Denney" wrote:
> So, given that I couldn't see it, and given that nobody quoted from the
> original post, I went to the forum (which I don't normally do--it took a
> while to remember that login!) and I see that the original poster is Paul
> Leavitt. I've searched and searched around my Gmail inbox, and I don't see
> any emails from him since March, 2014. Perhaps the list owner ought to
> check and make sure his forum posts are making it to the reflector,
> assuming other email users also didn't see it. I checked my spam folder
> (not there), and even searched all my unfiltered inbox (which is archived
> back to 2010 and has 54,000 message in it), and that's what I found.
>
> Anyway, yes, he's talking about the steering column CV joint, so my comment
> is still relevant: The balls they use are not a full 5/8", but about
> 0.002ish smaller. I couldn't make 5/8" balls work. But I know from
> experience that Synpower will work even on rusty balls, once the rust is
> removed. I drove from Charlotte to NoVA with severely corroded balls lubed
> with Synpower--the same balls that had made the drive down to Charlotte
> most unpleasant (and dangerous)--back about a decade ago.
>
> (I also noticed that my old registration on the forum, under user name
> "Rick Denney", is disconnected from the posts I've made since 2010, which
> are under user name "Richard Denney", presumably because that's how my
> Gmail address is configured. Funny goings-on over there in forum-land!)
>
> Rick "a forum member since it was a phorum" Denney
>
> On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 11:54 AM, Ken Burton wrote:
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>> Rick, The original poster is a GMC net member with 792 postings. You
>> might look at your email provider as to why you missed it.
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>> 76 Palm Beach
>> Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Rusty Balls!!! [message #319341 is a reply to message #319337] |
Tue, 20 June 2017 14:27 |
Ken Burton
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Richard Denney wrote on Tue, 20 June 2017 13:56So, given that I couldn't see it, and given that nobody quoted from the
original post, I went to the forum (which I don't normally do--it took a
while to remember that login!) and I see that the original poster is Paul
Leavitt. I've searched and searched around my Gmail inbox, and I don't see
any emails from him since March, 2014. Perhaps the list owner ought to
check and make sure his forum posts are making it to the reflector,
assuming other email users also didn't see it. I checked my spam folder
(not there), and even searched all my unfiltered inbox (which is archived
back to 2010 and has 54,000 message in it), and that's what I found.
Anyway, yes, he's talking about the steering column CV joint, so my comment
is still relevant: The balls they use are not a full 5/8", but about
0.002ish smaller. I couldn't make 5/8" balls work. But I know from
experience that Synpower will work even on rusty balls, once the rust is
removed. I drove from Charlotte to NoVA with severely corroded balls lubed
with Synpower--the same balls that had made the drive down to Charlotte
most unpleasant (and dangerous)--back about a decade ago.
(I also noticed that my old registration on the forum, under user name
"Rick Denney", is disconnected from the posts I've made since 2010, which
are under user name "Richard Denney", presumably because that's how my
Gmail address is configured. Funny goings-on over there in forum-land!)
Rick "a forum member since it was a phorum" Denney
Yes Rick, they occasionally get out of sync. Usually this happens when someone uses a different email address. When the forum sees a new email address from the list sever, it automatically assigns them a forum user id.
On the email list, when a new forum user appears because he posts something, the posting is sent to the email list and it bounces because the new user is not enrolled. The bounce is sent to the admin and the admin establishes an email user id on the mail server. It use to be a manual operation. I do not know if it still is. He has been a member since 2008 and made 8 posts in 2015, 14 in 2016, and 3 in 2017. If he was not enrolled in the email system every one of those postings would have been a bounce going to the admin. I did not go back and look at anything prior to 2015.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Rusty Balls!!! [message #319345 is a reply to message #319341] |
Tue, 20 June 2017 15:03 |
Richard Denney
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Ken,
I don't see any of those post-2014 messages in my Gmail inbox. I see
everyone else's (about 25,000 GMCnet posts since 2010), so maybe Gmail just
doesn't like Paul.
Then again, every single post of Jerry Work's seems to lose the headers
that let email clients (including the forum) keep it lined up with prior
messages in that thread, so I suppose Gmail doesn't like Jerry, either.
My post counts on the forum are wacky, too. I've been largely dormant since
2011 or so, at least until recently, but I know I made more than 400 posts
between 2004 and 2010. I can't blame that one on Gmail--that was before I
could no longer use my work computer for GMCnet, which is when I got a
Gmail address to use here.
It's an imperfect pass between the systems, to be sure.
That's why I quote at least some of the message to which I'm responding--it
leaves breadcrumbs in case a pass gets fumbled.
Rick "glad some things never change :) " Denney
On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Ken Burton wrote:
> ...He has been a member since 2008 and made 8 posts in 2015, 14 in 2016,
> and 3 in 2017. If he was not enrolled in the
> email system every one of those postings would have been a bounce going to
> the admin. I did not go back and look at anything prior to 2015.
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