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Need ideas for table to bed mechanism [message #318007] Thu, 25 May 2017 12:50 Go to next message
GMC Jimmy is currently offline  GMC Jimmy   Canada
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Hello All, I'm close to completing the rear lounge area in my 1975 Coachmen Royale. When I purchased the coach it had a full bed in the rear, during my renovation it appeared as though the full bed had been modified from another layout, could have been a U-shaped lounge originally,(which is what I have gone back to), or possibly two twins, I'm not certain?

I have been looking at ideas to allow the table top to drop down and form the bed. I have looked at several marine applications which are very interesting, and expensive, ranging from a few hundred dollars to a few thousand dollars for the hydraulic lifting mechanism only.

The traditional office chair gas riser offers some hope but the travel is limited to approximately 4-5 inches. My table top is ~30" and the bed height is 19", so I require around 11" of travel.

This looks interesting, but I don't know if it is available commercially or if it was a custom design... https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/95/73/b7/9573b7d590403285ad025089d098af44--airstream-remodel-van-camping.jpg

It would be nice to allow people to slide around the table unobstructed by a large device or struts sticking out from the sides.

Have you seen or used something that could be helpful?

Thanks,
Mike
Re: [GMCnet] Need ideas for table to bed mechanism [message #318009 is a reply to message #318007] Thu, 25 May 2017 13:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Emery Stora is currently offline  Emery Stora   United States
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Here is one that might work for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu1QpNzKtFY

Emery Stora
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Frederick, CO
> On May 25, 2017, at 11:50 AM, Mike wrote:
>
> Hello All, I'm close to completing the rear lounge area in my 1975 Coachmen Royale. When I purchased the coach it had a full bed in the rear, during
> my renovation it appeared as though the full bed had been modified from another layout, could have been a U-shaped lounge originally,(which is what I
> have gone back to), or possibly two twins, I'm not certain?
>
> I have been looking at ideas to allow the table top to drop down and form the bed. I have looked at several marine applications which are very
> interesting, and expensive, ranging from a few hundred dollars to a few thousand dollars for the hydraulic lifting mechanism only.
>
> The traditional office chair gas riser offers some hope but the travel is limited to approximately 4-5 inches. My table top is ~30" and the bed height
> is 19", so I require around 11" of travel.
>
> This looks interesting, but I don't know if it is available commercially or if it was a custom design...
> https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/95/73/b7/9573b7d590403285ad025089d098af44--airstream-remodel-van-camping.jpg
>
> It would be nice to allow people to slide around the table unobstructed by a large device or struts sticking out from the sides.
>
> Have you seen or used something that could be helpful?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Need ideas for table to bed mechanism [message #318014 is a reply to message #318007] Thu, 25 May 2017 15:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Emery Stora is currently offline  Emery Stora   United States
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Here are some marine ones:
http://tacomarine.com/category/cat_table_pedestals/Table-Pedestals

You can also google RV Table Support Base
and find dozens more.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO
> On May 25, 2017, at 11:50 AM, Mike wrote:
>
> Hello All, I'm close to completing the rear lounge area in my 1975 Coachmen Royale. When I purchased the coach it had a full bed in the rear, during
> my renovation it appeared as though the full bed had been modified from another layout, could have been a U-shaped lounge originally,(which is what I
> have gone back to), or possibly two twins, I'm not certain?
>
> I have been looking at ideas to allow the table top to drop down and form the bed. I have looked at several marine applications which are very
> interesting, and expensive, ranging from a few hundred dollars to a few thousand dollars for the hydraulic lifting mechanism only.
>
> The traditional office chair gas riser offers some hope but the travel is limited to approximately 4-5 inches. My table top is ~30" and the bed height
> is 19", so I require around 11" of travel.
>
> This looks interesting, but I don't know if it is available commercially or if it was a custom design...
> https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/95/73/b7/9573b7d590403285ad025089d098af44--airstream-remodel-van-camping.jpg
>
> It would be nice to allow people to slide around the table unobstructed by a large device or struts sticking out from the sides.
>
> Have you seen or used something that could be helpful?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
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Re: Need ideas for table to bed mechanism [message #318016 is a reply to message #318007] Thu, 25 May 2017 16:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've got one of these (not yet installed) :

http://www.lagunusa.com/

and a good video of what it does:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAjLjp9hG_E

I acknowledge it's not a "table to bed" contraption - but it's a pretty cool mechanism...

Steve W
1973 23'
Southern California





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Re: Need ideas for table to bed mechanism [message #318017 is a reply to message #318007] Thu, 25 May 2017 16:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
A Hamilto is currently offline  A Hamilto   United States
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GMC Jimmy wrote on Thu, 25 May 2017 12:50
Hello All, I'm close to completing the rear lounge area in my 1975 Coachmen Royale. When I purchased the coach it had a full bed in the rear, during my renovation it appeared as though the full bed had been modified from another layout, could have been a U-shaped lounge originally,(which is what I have gone back to), or possibly two twins, I'm not certain?

I have been looking at ideas to allow the table top to drop down and form the bed. I have looked at several marine applications which are very interesting, and expensive, ranging from a few hundred dollars to a few thousand dollars for the hydraulic lifting mechanism only.

The traditional office chair gas riser offers some hope but the travel is limited to approximately 4-5 inches. My table top is ~30" and the bed height is 19", so I require around 11" of travel.

This looks interesting, but I don't know if it is available commercially or if it was a custom design... https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/95/73/b7/9573b7d590403285ad025089d098af44--airstream-remodel-van-camping.jpg

It would be nice to allow people to slide around the table unobstructed by a large device or struts sticking out from the sides.

Have you seen or used something that could be helpful?

Thanks,
Mike

http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/1294
Re: Need ideas for table to bed mechanism [message #318018 is a reply to message #318007] Thu, 25 May 2017 19:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
GMC Jimmy is currently offline  GMC Jimmy   Canada
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Thanks for the input fellows,

Emery, I did see the table mechanism from RVSurplus, if I don't find just what I'm looking for this might be an option. The marine units, although ideal for the application, are far too expensive ranging from around $350 to $3,000 and some require the base to drop below the floor surface by 6" or more.

SteveW, another interesting item although I'm not sure if the travel will allow the table top to drop down far enough and into the position for use as a support for the bed?

A Hamilto, I'm hoping to find something a bit more creative that won't need to be taken apart each time the conversion from table top to bed support is required.

I appreciate your suggestions any other ideas?

Mike
Re: Need ideas for table to bed mechanism [message #318077 is a reply to message #318018] Sat, 27 May 2017 19:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This is what I used for a similar purpose.
It's high quality.
To go from table to bed it DOES have to go through the floor though.

https://www.amazon.com/Garelick-Eez-Manual-Adjustable-Table/dp/B01K2P0J26


Justin Brady http://www.thegmcrv.com/ 1976 Palm Beach 455

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Re: Need ideas for table to bed mechanism [message #318089 is a reply to message #318007] Sun, 28 May 2017 05:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hello Justin, thanks for the feedback. I did see this as well, however, I wasn't keen on making a hole through the floor.

How did you complete the install, does the "through the floor" portion interfere with anything, what, if any challenges did you encounter, any photos of the install?

Regards,
Mike
Re: [GMCnet] Need ideas for table to bed mechanism [message #318098 is a reply to message #318077] Sun, 28 May 2017 13:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Emery Stora is currently offline  Emery Stora   United States
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You had no attachment. What did you use?

Emery Stora

> On May 27, 2017, at 6:17 PM, Justin Brady wrote:
>
> This is what I used for a similar purpose.
> It's high quality.
> To go from table to bed it DOES have to go through the floor though.
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Re: [GMCnet] Need ideas for table to bed mechanism [message #318100 is a reply to message #318098] Sun, 28 May 2017 14:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Justin Brady is currently offline  Justin Brady   United States
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Emery,
I forgot the link the first time so I edited it. The email guys probably didn't get the edit.

Here it is.
https://www.amazon.com/Garelick-Eez-Manual-Adjustable-Table/dp/B01K2P0J26

For the install I just used a 3" hole saw through the floor, insulation and aluminum bottom skin, and then made an aluminum box to cover it back up from the bottom to keep it waterproof. It doesn't stick down as low as the frame so I see no real issue with this. My coach is getting painted currently so I don't have any photos but I'll get some when it's finished.


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Re: Need ideas for table to bed mechanism [message #318110 is a reply to message #318007] Sun, 28 May 2017 19:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
GMC Jimmy is currently offline  GMC Jimmy   Canada
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A few of the units I saw suggested a 6" drop below the floor, do you recall if you went that far?

Mike
Re: Need ideas for table to bed mechanism [message #318145 is a reply to message #318110] Mon, 29 May 2017 12:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Justin Brady is currently offline  Justin Brady   United States
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I'd say it goes at least that far, but you have to remember that under your 1" GMC floor is then 2" of insulation and then the aluminum, so while it goes 6" below the floor, it only sticks 3" below the coach, the frame sticks a solid 8" below the body.

Justin Brady http://www.thegmcrv.com/ 1976 Palm Beach 455
Re: Need ideas for table to bed mechanism [message #331112 is a reply to message #318016] Thu, 19 April 2018 23:43 Go to previous message
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SteveW wrote on Thu, 25 May 2017 17:14
I've got one of these (not yet installed) :

http://www.lagunusa.com/
and a good video of what it does:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAjLjp9hG_E
I acknowledge it's not a "table to bed" contraption - but it's a pretty cool mechanism...

Steve W
1973 23'
Southern California


Steve,
After seeing your post, and liking what I saw, I bought one. I'm still working on the dinette and have a temporary table top, but it's installed and I'm loving it. I needed a shorter horizontal arm, so I cut it down and moved the holes. I _really_ like being able to swing the table top out of the way when sitting down or having to open up the dinette storage, and swinging the table closer when I'm sitting back watching TV and/or the laptop.

Converting the table into the bed requires undoing a ratchet handle clamp that holds the arm to the upright (I usually don't even tighten it as it's not necessary), lifting the table top off and setting it aside, undoing the ratchet handle on the upright and removing the upright, then placing the table top in place to complete the bed support and putting two cushions in place. The process takes me about half the time it took me to write the previous sentence. It's quick.

The company in the UK ships quickly as well. I had the box in hand three days after ordering. I have no clue how they do it so quickly and build in shipping to the price.

It's designed as a cockpit table on a boat, and it's not something you're going to sit on, but it's not bouncy and the hardware is stoutly made. I expect to get many years of use out of it.

Good find, Steve. Thanks for doing the legwork!

Richard V.


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