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| Re: Unsuccessful Rescue [message #317034 is a reply to message #317033] |
Wed, 03 May 2017 14:13   |
Ken Burton
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I saw that posting and wondered why you need the pitman arm puller to replace the top seal. My problem is that this was such a simple job that I do not remember much about what I did. I do know that I did NOT have a pitman arm puller and that I did leave the box mounted in the coach. I do remember rotating it on one bolt.
I'm probably not much help here.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: Unsuccessful Rescue [message #317093 is a reply to message #317076] |
Thu, 04 May 2017 19:24 |
C Boyd
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It is a little easier if you remove the grill.
V Walsh wrote on Thu, 04 May 2017 11:53All responses are helpful at this point since this is new to me. The '59 Apache I worked on with my Dad didn't have power steering so I will learn all about it now, ha!
C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
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| Re: Unsuccessful Rescue [message #317156 is a reply to message #316902] |
Sun, 07 May 2017 15:44 |
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SeanKidd
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Location: Northern Neck Virginia
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Today, Scott, Vonda and I were successful in replacing the top seal on the gearbox, thank you everyone who posted. The most challenging part of the job was removing the snapring. The seal sits below a dust cover, and the snapring Sits above both...The rubber dust cover was swollen and brittle, it prevented the snapring pliers from working, some of the dust cover had to be picked away to alleviate pressure on the snapring allowing a hook pick under the ring and pulled out, the kit comes with a new one anyway. Once removed its a 10 minute job, used a pick to pull out seal. Pushed new seal in with a 6" piece of 1" electrical pvc conduit...made for a perfect seal driver. Dust cover, and new snap ring from the kit...large Orin's was not needed, since we did not remove the tension adjuster. Previously Scott and Vonda ensured the windshield wiper filter was clear. Refilled...took a whole quart, and Vonda and her girls are one step closer to camping.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/500/medium/IMG_2055.JPG
Sean and Stephanie
73 Ex-CanyonLands 26' #317 "Oliver"
Hubler 1-Ton, Quad-Bags, Rear Disc, Reaction Arms, P.Huber TBs, 3.70:1 LSD Honda 6500 inverter gen.
Colonial Travelers
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| Re: [GMCnet] Unsuccessful Rescue [message #317157 is a reply to message #317156] |
Sun, 07 May 2017 15:54 |
Ken Henderson
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Location: Americus, GA
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Sean,
Make darned sure that snap ring is well seated. More than a few of those
seals have blown out because of inadequate seating. Including mine. I
rebuilt (replaced all the seals in) my steering box shortly before
departing for the West Coast in 2013. On Vancouver Island, the seal blew
out. I wound up driving about 80 miles with no power steering to reach
Sully's place in Seattle. He sent me to Red Head Steering Rebuilders (or
some such), where I had the box rebuilt. The whole problem was undoubtedly
due to my being insufficiently careful about the snap ring.
Ken H.
On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 4:44 PM, Sean Kidd wrote:
> Today, Scott, Vonda and I were successful in replacing the top seal on
> the gearbox, thank you everyone who posted. The most challenging part of
> the
> job was removing the snapring. The seal sits below a dust cover, and the
> snapring Sits above both...The rubber dust cover was swollen and brittle, it
> prevented the snapring pliers from working, some of the dust cover had to
> be picked away to alleviate pressure on the snapring allowing a hook pick
> under the ring and pulled out, the kit comes with a new one anyway. Once
> removed its a 10 minute job, used a pick to pull out seal. Pushed new seal
> in with a 6" piece of 1" electrical pvc conduit...made for a perfect seal
> driver. Dust cover, and new snap ring from the kit...large Orin's was not
> needed, since we did not remove the tension adjuster. Previously Scott
> and Vonda ensured the windshield wiper filter was clear. Refilled...took a
> whole quart, and Vonda and her girls are one step closer to camping.
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/500/medium/IMG_2055.JPG
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| Re: xxSUCCESSFUL Rescue [message #317158 is a reply to message #316902] |
Sun, 07 May 2017 16:07 |
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SeanKidd
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Thank you Ken, once it audibly "snapped" in I was sure to seat it by tapping the edges of the snapring with a hammer and screwdriver. The rubber dust ring, made similar to the seal, but flat (rubber covered metal disc) needs to be slightly compressed for it to seat properly. I also purposefully ensured the eyes of the new snapring faced the cockpit, the one that came out was facing the front of the coach which made it more challenging.
Sean and Stephanie
73 Ex-CanyonLands 26' #317 "Oliver"
Hubler 1-Ton, Quad-Bags, Rear Disc, Reaction Arms, P.Huber TBs, 3.70:1 LSD Honda 6500 inverter gen.
Colonial Travelers
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| Re: xxSUCCESSFUL Rescue [message #317338 is a reply to message #316902] |
Wed, 10 May 2017 12:05 |
V Walsh
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Registered: May 2017
Location: Northwest NJ
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Hello again,
I'm sorry for the delay. After working on the coach with Sean and Scott (thanks again, so very much!), I had a really bad fall and have been non-stop busy since so I couldn't get on the forum to update. Nothing broken, but badly bruised, ha.
Yes, I drove the coach out of Scott's yard (Sean you'd be proud because I backed it out myself!) and through about a 5 mile series of winding roads out of Scott's lake community, then another 5 miles or so to the local exhaust shop where she's now waiting for a quote on the new tail pipe. We checked the seal once I parked the coach and everything seemed perfect. I'll be triple checking the power steering fluid once the exhaust work is completed before I drive the coach again.
In the meantime, I need to work on the air bag control and look for new schrader valves. The controls don't stay in place so I'm ordering the gasket kit from allied. There is a slow leak to the air bags, so I hope it's just the valves. If not, I do have one new airbag, so I'll be in the market for a second if the rebuild and new valves don't solve the problem.
I clearly need to learn how to resize photos to share. I tried to attach one because I was really proud of myself backing it in between two trucks at the shop, but regardless of how small I resize it, it won't load. I'll figure it out and share later. 
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| Re: xxSUCCESSFUL Rescue [message #317343 is a reply to message #316902] |
Wed, 10 May 2017 12:23 |
A Hamilto
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V Walsh wrote on Wed, 10 May 2017 12:05...In the meantime, I need to work on the air bag control and look for new schrader valves. The controls don't stay in place so I'm ordering the gasket kit from allied. There is a slow leak to the air bags, so I hope it's just the valves. If not, I do have one new airbag, so I'll be in the market for a second if the rebuild and new valves don't solve the problem.
I clearly need to learn how to resize photos to share. I tried to attach one because I was really proud of myself backing it in between two trucks at the shop, but regardless of how small I resize it, it won't load. I'll figure it out and share later. There are lots of fittings that can leak, not to mention many feet of plastic line that can get abraided/nicked. So its not necessarily the control that leaks.
You can't attach photos. The server doesn't have enough storage for people to do that, so the sysadmin set the attachment size to useless.
You post pictures to the photo site ( http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/ ) and then put the URL of the photo site page in your post. You can use the IMG tags to imbed the image for forum users or use the process for imbedding the image for forum users AND the url for the email subscribers located here:
http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/GMCforum/index.php?t=msg&th=31075&start=0&rid=2083
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| Re: xxSUCCESSFUL Rescue [message #317359 is a reply to message #316902] |
Wed, 10 May 2017 17:23 |
jhbridges
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Location: Braselton ga
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You can kind of fix the OEM valves with the kit. Replace them with J.R. Slaton's valves and worry no more. While you're at it, have a look at the oil cooler lines which run from the side of the radiator to the right side of the engine. If they're in good shape, cool. If they're braided steel, even better. If they aren't, consider a set of J.R.'s braided lines which he sells at cost. A failure of one of these lines will result in the loss of oil pressure and oil, and very quickly will as we used to say, 'lunch the mill'.
http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/587
http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/738
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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