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[GMCnet] Temp sender. [message #316983] Tue, 02 May 2017 14:53 Go to next message
james Ernst is currently offline  james Ernst   United States
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Hello gang,
I just switched out the old temp sender, which I kept, to the NAPA TS6469,
as advised for a more accurate indicator on dash gage. However, when
plugged in on ice cold engine the needle pegs the hot reading.

I take it they may not work in every case or possibility it's a bad one.
Are there any other choices?

Thanks,
Jim Ernst
Columbus, NE
'77 PB
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Re: [GMCnet] Temp sender. [message #316984 is a reply to message #316983] Tue, 02 May 2017 15:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jimk is currently offline  jimk   United States
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Check to see connection, grounding it should read full scale, or am I mixed
up.

On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 12:53 PM, james Ernst wrote:

> Hello gang,
> I just switched out the old temp sender, which I kept, to the NAPA TS6469,
> as advised for a more accurate indicator on dash gage. However, when
> plugged in on ice cold engine the needle pegs the hot reading.
>
> I take it they may not work in every case or possibility it's a bad one.
> Are there any other choices?
>
> Thanks,
> Jim Ernst
> Columbus, NE
> '77 PB
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Re: [GMCnet] Temp sender. [message #316987 is a reply to message #316984] Tue, 02 May 2017 15:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
powerjon is currently offline  powerjon   United States
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You did put any teflon tape or sealant on the threads did you? If you did take it back out and clean the treads in both the manifold and the sender. No sealer is needed just put it in snug, do not over tighten. The sender grounds thru the brass treads and with a bad ground it will act funny.

JR Wright
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1975 GMC Avion (Under Reconstruction)
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> On May 2, 2017, at 4:29 PM, Jim Kanomata wrote:
>
> Check to see connection, grounding it should read full scale, or am I mixed
> up.
>
> On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 12:53 PM, james Ernst wrote:
>
>> Hello gang,
>> I just switched out the old temp sender, which I kept, to the NAPA TS6469,
>> as advised for a more accurate indicator on dash gage. However, when
>> plugged in on ice cold engine the needle pegs the hot reading.
>>
>> I take it they may not work in every case or possibility it's a bad one.
>> Are there any other choices?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jim Ernst
>> Columbus, NE
>> '77 PB
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>
>
>
> --
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> jimk@appliedairfilters.com
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Re: [GMCnet] Temp sender. [message #316988 is a reply to message #316987] Tue, 02 May 2017 15:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
james Ernst is currently offline  james Ernst   United States
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Jim, It reads full scale hot on cold engine.

John, It came with Teflon tape already on the sender. I'll pull it out and
clean both sender and manifold and see what happened.

Thanks guys,

Jim Ernst
77 PB
Columbus, NE

On May 2, 2017 3:47 PM, "John Wright" wrote:

> You did put any teflon tape or sealant on the threads did you? If you did
> take it back out and clean the treads in both the manifold and the sender.
> No sealer is needed just put it in snug, do not over tighten. The sender
> grounds thru the brass treads and with a bad ground it will act funny.
>
> JR Wright
> GMC Great Laker MHC
> GMC Eastern States Charter Member
> GMCGL Tech Editor
> GMCMI
> 78 GMC Buskirk 30’ Stretch
> 1975 GMC Avion (Under Reconstruction)
> Michigan
>
>
>> On May 2, 2017, at 4:29 PM, Jim Kanomata wrote:
>>
>> Check to see connection, grounding it should read full scale, or am I
> mixed
>> up.
>>
>> On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 12:53 PM, james Ernst
> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello gang,
>>> I just switched out the old temp sender, which I kept, to the NAPA
> TS6469,
>>> as advised for a more accurate indicator on dash gage. However, when
>>> plugged in on ice cold engine the needle pegs the hot reading.
>>>
>>> I take it they may not work in every case or possibility it's a bad one.
>>> Are there any other choices?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jim Ernst
>>> Columbus, NE
>>> '77 PB
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> GMCnet mailing list
>>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>>> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jim Kanomata
>> Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
>> jimk@appliedairfilters.com
>> http://www.appliedgmc.com
>> 1-800-752-7502
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Re: [GMCnet] Temp sender. [message #316989 is a reply to message #316988] Tue, 02 May 2017 16:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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To check things, just ground it temporarily with a wire from the case to
the block.
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Re: [GMCnet] Temp sender. [message #316993 is a reply to message #316989] Tue, 02 May 2017 16:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
james Ernst is currently offline  james Ernst   United States
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Hi Billy, I tried that first, no change on gauge. So I removed sender and
cleaned up both threaded surfaces. Still reads max hot.
Bad sender?

Thanks,
Jim Ernst
77 Palm Beach
Columbus, NE

On May 2, 2017 4:18 PM, "Billy Massey" wrote:

> To check things, just ground it temporarily with a wire from the case to
> the block.
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Re: [GMCnet] Temp sender. [message #316998 is a reply to message #316993] Tue, 02 May 2017 18:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bdub is currently offline  bdub   United States
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Could be. Put the old one back in to see if it still works right. In case you
might've crossed or pinched a wire somewhere in the process.

bdub


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Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 4:56 PM

Hi Billy, I tried that first, no change on gauge. So I removed sender and
cleaned up both threaded surfaces. Still reads max hot.
Bad sender?


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Re: [GMCnet] Temp sender. [message #317098 is a reply to message #316998] Thu, 04 May 2017 21:24 Go to previous message
Jp Benson is currently offline  Jp Benson   United States
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Check the sender with an ohm meter. As I use VDO senders I don't know the specs on the NAPA sender. Maybe someone else on the forum knows. Resistance decreases as temperature increases. This article shows a typical chart.

http://forum.grrrr8.net/showthread.php?t=37701

JP

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