| In case you missed it like I did [message #315438] |
Mon, 03 April 2017 23:31  |
Ken Burton
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The Craftsman Brand was bought by Stanley Black and Decker last January. Sears will still sell the products but Stanley will also sell the Craftsman products through other channels.
Ken Burton - N9KB
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Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: In case you missed it like I did [message #315444 is a reply to message #315438] |
Tue, 04 April 2017 07:01  |
rcjordan
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I've read that the Craftsman warranty has already been split and that there is a model line within the brand that doesn't have the lifetime warranty. I'm not certain of this, though, but it bears checking out when you buy.
As for the sale, if they only bought the asset of the brand name, the new owners could avoid the liability of future replacements. I haven't seen what the plan is, just a thought.
But you guys know the score, you've seen it with other brands. Black & Decker used to be a mechanic's brand. The money is in buying a revered brand, cheapening it, and selling it to the consumer crowd based on its past laurels.
SOLD 77 Royale Coachmen Side Dry Bath
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Elizabeth City, NC
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| Re: In case you missed it like I did [message #315448 is a reply to message #315438] |
Tue, 04 April 2017 08:35 |
JohnL455
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My local Sears just shuttered the doors last week. Most tools have had a Chinese look for years now. I think they are still good value for money. Warranty per wikipedia good at any place that sells Craftsman. Lifetime on "most" hand tools excluding precision and specialty items. In the old days they gave you a new one. Last couple tries it was a refirb that was worse for wear. Ratchet they gave me had burrs from some hammer mechanic. Doesn't cover things like lawn tools and power tools are 1 year they say.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
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| Re: In case you missed it like I did [message #315449 is a reply to message #315438] |
Tue, 04 April 2017 08:39 |
jknezek
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Home Depot and Lowes both offer lifetime guarantees on their house brand hand tools. I've got my trusty Craftsman stuff and I've never had a problem exchanging things at Sears, which I've had to do with several ratchets, but it simply isn't a matter of the guarantee anymore. If you buy Craftsman that's a fine choice, but at this point I have more faith in Lowes and Home Depot brands surviving to honor their warranties. None of the three are made in the USA anymore, Craftsman moved manufacturing primarily to China and Taiwan back in 2010, so I doubt quality of the newer tools has been much different between them for most of the past decade.
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Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
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| Re: [GMCnet] In case you missed it like I did [message #315451 is a reply to message #315449] |
Tue, 04 April 2017 08:50 |
Keith V
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I'm less concerned with warranty than quality. I bought a decent set ( so I thought ) of flare wrenches that are worthless, they open up when you reef on them. my craftsman open end wrenches are better.
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] In case you missed it like I did
Home Depot and Lowes both offer lifetime guarantees on their house brand hand tools. I've got my trusty Craftsman stuff and I've never had a problem
exchanging things at Sears, which I've had to do with several ratchets, but it simply isn't a matter of the guarantee anymore. If you buy Craftsman
that's a fine choice, but at this point I have more faith in Lowes and Home Depot brands surviving to honor their warranties. None of the three are
made in the USA anymore, Craftsman moved manufacturing primarily to China and Taiwan back in 2010, so I doubt quality of the newer tools has been much
different between them for most of the past decade.
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Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
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| Re: [GMCnet] In case you missed it like I did [message #315454 is a reply to message #315451] |
Tue, 04 April 2017 10:16 |
richshoop
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For something like a flare wrench, only the best will do! Try McMaster Carr for some real tools.
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From: "Keith V"
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Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 6:50:35 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] In case you missed it like I did
I'm less concerned with warranty than quality. I bought a decent set ( so I thought ) of flare wrenches that are worthless, they open up when you reef on them. my craftsman open end wrenches are better.
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From: Gmclist on behalf of Jeremy
Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 8:39:41 AM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] In case you missed it like I did
Home Depot and Lowes both offer lifetime guarantees on their house brand hand tools. I've got my trusty Craftsman stuff and I've never had a problem
exchanging things at Sears, which I've had to do with several ratchets, but it simply isn't a matter of the guarantee anymore. If you buy Craftsman
that's a fine choice, but at this point I have more faith in Lowes and Home Depot brands surviving to honor their warranties. None of the three are
made in the USA anymore, Craftsman moved manufacturing primarily to China and Taiwan back in 2010, so I doubt quality of the newer tools has been much
different between them for most of the past decade.
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Thanks,
Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
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| Re: [GMCnet] In case you missed it like I did [message #315468 is a reply to message #315451] |
Tue, 04 April 2017 17:26 |
midlf
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Keith V wrote on Tue, 04 April 2017 08:50I'm less concerned with warranty than quality. I bought a decent set ( so I thought ) of flare wrenches that are worthless, they open up when you reef on them. my craftsman open end wrenches are better.
I have had a set of Craftsman flare wrenches for just about forever. They are totally useless. They, as noted, spread and slip. Rounding off the hex on the fitting. When I ordered SS brake lines it included a set of Pittsburg flare nut wrenches. Horror fright of all things! However they fit on the flare nut better and don't spread. I was amazed. Every so often you don't get what you paid for in the positive direction.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: In case you missed it like I did [message #315472 is a reply to message #315464] |
Tue, 04 April 2017 18:43 |
midlf
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rcjordan wrote on Tue, 04 April 2017 16:02Doing a little research, there is a Craftsman sub-brand called "Evolv" and it requires a receipt/proof-of-purchase before they'll honor the warranty --so, for most of us, that equals no warranty.
http://www.camarozone.com/forum/f8/craftsman-evolv-series-read-before-buying-183171/
https://www.craftsman.com/customer-care/warranty-information#point8
Way back when Sears also had a Companion brand, and later a Dunlap brand. These were the second tier to Craftsman and did not have the same warranty. Here is a bit about that I found:
"A brand of Sears, Roebuck & Co., made by Atlas Press, Central Specialty (later King-Seeley), Double A Products, and others. The Dunlap brand was first used in 1941, replacing the earlier Companion brand. It was reportedly named after the head buyer in the hardware department of Sears Roebuck."
My Dad was an accountant for Sears in the late 40's and very early 50's. He quit Sears because he did not like their business practices. The way Wal-Mart works with vendors is not new. Sears did it first.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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