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Sat, 01 April 2017 09:42  |
Ken Henderson
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Well, the trip home didn't go quite as planned: At about 5PM yesterday, 120
miles from home, the water temperature shot up to 150*. With the oil temp
& pressure looking normal, I continued 1/4 mile to a car wash. There I
sprayed the radiator to clear the steam. Examination showed the water
pump's serpentine belt loose & slipping. After tightening that I checked
the fan clutch to be OK and refilled the radiator. When I started the
engine there was an intermittent squeal which I chalked up to the we belt.
So we headed home.
About 8 miles later, the water temp shot up again and the oil temperature
also started climbing. I turned onto the next cross road to clear the
4-lane heavy traffic and shut down on the shoulder of the road.
The serpentine for the WP was missing, so I dug out the spare. Then I
found the original hanging loose, so reinstalled it. Turned out, it was so
damaged and stretched that I couldn't tighten it. So, I cut it off and
installed the spare, with the same part number. It was also too loose to
tighten! Baffled, I started installing the other spare, marked "1/2 in too
short". When it quickly proved to also be too loose, I finally shook the
fan again, it was VERY loose - shot WP. It was also covered with oil,
source still unknown.
With roadside repair out of the question a I called RVRoadHelp. After
about 3 hours and 4 operators, I finally had them convinced that "Beaver
Racing Engines" in Americus is the closes CAPABLE repair facility - they
refuse to take me home, which is 3 miles closer (and where I intend to
land). Then the fun began:. After contacting MANY tower who refused the
job, they called the local police to come to me, expecting them to find
someone local.
After the police dispatcher tried 16 different services, without luck, the
cop and I backed the GMC onto flat ground for the night. And there we
slept.
This morning I dumped the problem back on Allstate, with a couple of
suggestions from the tower in Americus. After another 45 minutes with me
holding the phone, they found someone 75 miles away. He just called,
saying he'll head this way as soon as he get gas. He should be here at
about 11. We MAY be home by 3:30 PM EDT.
Keep your fingers crossed for us.
Ken H.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Beside US280 [message #315306 is a reply to message #315304] |
Sat, 01 April 2017 10:02  |
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wally
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Ken Henderson wrote on Sat, 01 April 2017 09:42Well, the trip home didn't go quite as planned: At about 5PM yesterday, 120
miles from home, the water temperature shot up to 150*. With the oil temp
& pressure looking normal, I continued 1/4 mile to a car wash. There I
sprayed the radiator to clear the steam. Examination showed the water
pump's serpentine belt loose & slipping. After tightening that I checked
the fan clutch to be OK and refilled the radiator. When I started the
engine there was an intermittent squeal which I chalked up to the we belt.
So we headed home.
About 8 miles later, the water temp shot up again and the oil temperature
also started climbing. I turned onto the next cross road to clear the
4-lane heavy traffic and shut down on the shoulder of the road.
The serpentine for the WP was missing, so I dug out the spare. Then I
found the original hanging loose, so reinstalled it. Turned out, it was so
damaged and stretched that I couldn't tighten it. So, I cut it off and
installed the spare, with the same part number. It was also too loose to
tighten! Baffled, I started installing the other spare, marked "1/2 in too
short". When it quickly proved to also be too loose, I finally shook the
fan again, it was VERY loose - shot WP. It was also covered with oil,
source still unknown.
With roadside repair out of the question a I called RVRoadHelp. After
about 3 hours and 4 operators, I finally had them convinced that "Beaver
Racing Engines" in Americus is the closes CAPABLE repair facility - they
refuse to take me home, which is 3 miles closer (and where I intend to
land). Then the fun began:. After contacting MANY tower who refused the
job, they called the local police to come to me, expecting them to find
someone local.
After the police dispatcher tried 16 different services, without luck, the
cop and I backed the GMC onto flat ground for the night. And there we
slept.
This morning I dumped the problem back on Allstate, with a couple of
suggestions from the tower in Americus. After another 45 minutes with me
holding the phone, they found someone 75 miles away. He just called,
saying he'll head this way as soon as he get gas. He should be here at
about 11. We MAY be home by 3:30 PM EDT.
Keep your fingers crossed for us.
Ken H.
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Oh man! sorry to read this. Hopefully a tow happens with no issues.
Wally Anderson
Omaha NE
75 Glenbrook
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| Re: [GMCnet] Beside US280 [message #315314 is a reply to message #315304] |
Sat, 01 April 2017 17:05 |
Ken Henderson
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Location: Americus, GA
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The wrecker finally showed up at about 11:15 and we were on the road by
11:45. It was a medium-sized wheel-lift (21,000# MGW) and the very nice
driver was well experienced. I led at the speed limit for the entire 104
miles (to "Henderson's Garage" -- don't tell anyone) instead of the
forecast 107 to Beaver Racing Engines. The coach is on the rack and
completely unloaded (about 25 loads to the house). So, maybe by Monday
I'll find the round tuit needed to tear into it and try to fix it. The oil
leak is my big concern -- the idea that comes to mind is that running with
the bad water pump could have allowed it to wear through the sheet metal
base plate into the cam chain compartment. If that bad idea comes true, at
least apparently water didn't get into the crankcase because the dipstick
looks good after a couple of short repositioning engine runs. We shall
see. I've got until the 17th of this month to get in running again so I
can take her to a garden club event at Pine Mountain, GA.
Ken H.
On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Ken Henderson
wrote:
> Well, the trip home didn't go quite as planned: At about 5PM yesterday,
> 120 miles from home, the water temperature shot up to 150*. With the oil
> temp & pressure looking normal, I continued 1/4 mile to a car wash. There
> I sprayed the radiator to clear the steam. Examination showed the water
> pump's serpentine belt loose & slipping. After tightening that I checked
> the fan clutch to be OK and refilled the radiator. When I started the
> engine there was an intermittent squeal which I chalked up to the we belt.
> So we headed home.
>
> About 8 miles later, the water temp shot up again and the oil temperature
> also started climbing. I turned onto the next cross road to clear the
> 4-lane heavy traffic and shut down on the shoulder of the road.
>
> The serpentine for the WP was missing, so I dug out the spare. Then I
> found the original hanging loose, so reinstalled it. Turned out, it was so
> damaged and stretched that I couldn't tighten it. So, I cut it off and
> installed the spare, with the same part number. It was also too loose to
> tighten! Baffled, I started installing the other spare, marked "1/2 in too
> short". When it quickly proved to also be too loose, I finally shook the
> fan again, it was VERY loose - shot WP. It was also covered with oil,
> source still unknown.
>
> With roadside repair out of the question a I called RVRoadHelp. After
> about 3 hours and 4 operators, I finally had them convinced that "Beaver
> Racing Engines" in Americus is the closes CAPABLE repair facility - they
> refuse to take me home, which is 3 miles closer (and where I intend to
> land). Then the fun began:. After contacting MANY tower who refused the
> job, they called the local police to come to me, expecting them to find
> someone local.
>
> After the police dispatcher tried 16 different services, without luck, the
> cop and I backed the GMC onto flat ground for the night. And there we
> slept.
>
> This morning I dumped the problem back on Allstate, with a couple of
> suggestions from the tower in Americus. After another 45 minutes with me
> holding the phone, they found someone 75 miles away. He just called,
> saying he'll head this way as soon as he get gas. He should be here at
> about 11. We MAY be home by 3:30 PM EDT.
>
> Keep your fingers crossed for us.
>
> Ken H.
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Beside US280 [message #315321 is a reply to message #315314] |
Sat, 01 April 2017 20:01 |
Sandra Price
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Hope the fix is easier than you think. Good luck! At least you've got a
better place than most to work on it.
Sandra and Bob
On Apr 1, 2017 5:07 PM, "Ken Henderson" wrote:
> The wrecker finally showed up at about 11:15 and we were on the road by
> 11:45. It was a medium-sized wheel-lift (21,000# MGW) and the very nice
> driver was well experienced. I led at the speed limit for the entire 104
> miles (to "Henderson's Garage" -- don't tell anyone) instead of the
> forecast 107 to Beaver Racing Engines. The coach is on the rack and
> completely unloaded (about 25 loads to the house). So, maybe by Monday
> I'll find the round tuit needed to tear into it and try to fix it. The oil
> leak is my big concern -- the idea that comes to mind is that running with
> the bad water pump could have allowed it to wear through the sheet metal
> base plate into the cam chain compartment. If that bad idea comes true, at
> least apparently water didn't get into the crankcase because the dipstick
> looks good after a couple of short repositioning engine runs. We shall
> see. I've got until the 17th of this month to get in running again so I
> can take her to a garden club event at Pine Mountain, GA.
>
> Ken H.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Ken Henderson
> wrote:
>
>> Well, the trip home didn't go quite as planned: At about 5PM yesterday,
>> 120 miles from home, the water temperature shot up to 150*. With the
> oil
>> temp & pressure looking normal, I continued 1/4 mile to a car wash.
> There
>> I sprayed the radiator to clear the steam. Examination showed the water
>> pump's serpentine belt loose & slipping. After tightening that I checked
>> the fan clutch to be OK and refilled the radiator. When I started the
>> engine there was an intermittent squeal which I chalked up to the we
> belt.
>> So we headed home.
>>
>> About 8 miles later, the water temp shot up again and the oil temperature
>> also started climbing. I turned onto the next cross road to clear the
>> 4-lane heavy traffic and shut down on the shoulder of the road.
>>
>> The serpentine for the WP was missing, so I dug out the spare. Then I
>> found the original hanging loose, so reinstalled it. Turned out, it was
> so
>> damaged and stretched that I couldn't tighten it. So, I cut it off and
>> installed the spare, with the same part number. It was also too loose to
>> tighten! Baffled, I started installing the other spare, marked "1/2 in
> too
>> short". When it quickly proved to also be too loose, I finally shook the
>> fan again, it was VERY loose - shot WP. It was also covered with oil,
>> source still unknown.
>>
>> With roadside repair out of the question a I called RVRoadHelp. After
>> about 3 hours and 4 operators, I finally had them convinced that "Beaver
>> Racing Engines" in Americus is the closes CAPABLE repair facility - they
>> refuse to take me home, which is 3 miles closer (and where I intend to
>> land). Then the fun began:. After contacting MANY tower who refused the
>> job, they called the local police to come to me, expecting them to find
>> someone local.
>>
>> After the police dispatcher tried 16 different services, without luck,
> the
>> cop and I backed the GMC onto flat ground for the night. And there we
>> slept.
>>
>> This morning I dumped the problem back on Allstate, with a couple of
>> suggestions from the tower in Americus. After another 45 minutes with me
>> holding the phone, they found someone 75 miles away. He just called,
>> saying he'll head this way as soon as he get gas. He should be here at
>> about 11. We MAY be home by 3:30 PM EDT.
>>
>> Keep your fingers crossed for us.
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Beside US280 [message #315335 is a reply to message #315304] |
Sat, 01 April 2017 23:00 |
SpookyEng
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Sorry to hear about the breakdown. I hope the issue turns out to be an easy fix. Glad y'all are home safe!
JD Lisenby- USAF Ret
1978 Royale-455
MacDash, Manny Tranny, FI-tech, 3.70 etc etc
Navarre, FL
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| Re: [GMCnet] Beside US280 [message #315339 is a reply to message #315314] |
Sun, 02 April 2017 07:30 |
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USAussie
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Brilliant!
So when you got home you told the wrecker driver; "sorry, I have CRS and
drove home because I forgot where I was going." :-)
Hopefully it will be just the water pump and not the plate as well. IIRC
those plates are fairly thick.
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
USA '77 Kingsley - TZE 267V100808
-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Ken
Henderson
Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 5:06 PM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Beside US280
The wrecker finally showed up at about 11:15 and we were on the road by
11:45. It was a medium-sized wheel-lift (21,000# MGW) and the very nice
driver was well experienced. I led at the speed limit for the entire 104
miles (to "Henderson's Garage" -- don't tell anyone) instead of the
forecast 107 to Beaver Racing Engines. The coach is on the rack and
completely unloaded (about 25 loads to the house). So, maybe by Monday
I'll find the round tuit needed to tear into it and try to fix it. The oil
leak is my big concern -- the idea that comes to mind is that running with
the bad water pump could have allowed it to wear through the sheet metal
base plate into the cam chain compartment. If that bad idea comes true, at
least apparently water didn't get into the crankcase because the dipstick
looks good after a couple of short repositioning engine runs. We shall
see. I've got until the 17th of this month to get in running again so I
can take her to a garden club event at Pine Mountain, GA.
Ken H.
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Regards,
Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Beside US280 [message #315347 is a reply to message #315304] |
Sun, 02 April 2017 12:17 |
midlf
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Good luck with the repair. With some of the problems you have had, if you don't have to R&R the engine, you will be ahead of the game.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] Beside US280 [message #315371 is a reply to message #315314] |
Sun, 02 April 2017 21:55 |
Kosier
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Ken,
CadCo has a SS replacement for that front plate.
If I ever manage to build another engine, I'll buy one.
Gary Kosier
77PB w/500Cad
Newark, Ohio
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From: "Ken Henderson"
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 6:05 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Beside US280
> The wrecker finally showed up at about 11:15 and we were on the road by
> 11:45. It was a medium-sized wheel-lift (21,000# MGW) and the very nice
> driver was well experienced. I led at the speed limit for the entire 104
> miles (to "Henderson's Garage" -- don't tell anyone) instead of the
> forecast 107 to Beaver Racing Engines. The coach is on the rack and
> completely unloaded (about 25 loads to the house). So, maybe by Monday
> I'll find the round tuit needed to tear into it and try to fix it. The
> oil
> leak is my big concern -- the idea that comes to mind is that running with
> the bad water pump could have allowed it to wear through the sheet metal
> base plate into the cam chain compartment. If that bad idea comes true,
> at
> least apparently water didn't get into the crankcase because the dipstick
> looks good after a couple of short repositioning engine runs. We shall
> see. I've got until the 17th of this month to get in running again so I
> can take her to a garden club event at Pine Mountain, GA.
>
> Ken H.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Beside US280 [message #315378 is a reply to message #315371] |
Mon, 03 April 2017 07:09 |
Ken Henderson
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Location: Americus, GA
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Thanks, Gary, I may have to use that. Because of time constraints, I may
have to move the one from my now-disassembled '76 if this one is damaged.
In that case I'll get the SS to reassemble the '76.
Ken H.
On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 10:55 PM, Gary Kosier wrote:
> Ken,
>
> CadCo has a SS replacement for that front plate.
> If I ever manage to build another engine, I'll buy one.
>
> Gary Kosier
> 77PB w/500Cad
> Newark, Ohio
>
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> From: "Ken Henderson"
> Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 6:05 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Beside US280
>
> The wrecker finally showed up at about 11:15 and we were on the road by
>> 11:45. It was a medium-sized wheel-lift (21,000# MGW) and the very nice
>> driver was well experienced. I led at the speed limit for the entire 104
>> miles (to "Henderson's Garage" -- don't tell anyone) instead of the
>> forecast 107 to Beaver Racing Engines. The coach is on the rack and
>> completely unloaded (about 25 loads to the house). So, maybe by Monday
>> I'll find the round tuit needed to tear into it and try to fix it. The
>> oil
>> leak is my big concern -- the idea that comes to mind is that running with
>> the bad water pump could have allowed it to wear through the sheet metal
>> base plate into the cam chain compartment. If that bad idea comes true,
>> at
>> least apparently water didn't get into the crankcase because the dipstick
>> looks good after a couple of short repositioning engine runs. We shall
>> see. I've got until the 17th of this month to get in running again so I
>> can take her to a garden club event at Pine Mountain, GA.
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>
>
>
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