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[GMCnet] Replacement Aluminum Radiator [message #313784] Sat, 25 February 2017 12:10 Go to next message
k2gkk is currently offline  k2gkk   United States
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Any vendor bringing one to Shawnee? What would be cost?

Are engine and tranny coolers mandatory? Same questions as in sentence above.

Thinking about an S&J engine and their "warnings" sort of scare me!


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Re: [GMCnet] Replacement Aluminum Radiator [message #313785 is a reply to message #313784] Sat, 25 February 2017 12:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bdub is currently offline  bdub   United States
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I just imagine that whatever you want can be brought and save you a ton in
shipping.

See ya there
bdub


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Any vendor bringing one to Shawnee? What would be cost?

Are engine and tranny coolers mandatory? Same questions as in sentence above.

Thinking about an S&J engine and their "warnings" sort of scare me!



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Re: [GMCnet] Replacement Aluminum Radiator [message #313792 is a reply to message #313784] Sat, 25 February 2017 15:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Mac,

Contact JimK directly, IIRC he's handling the sales of the Aluminum
radiators now.

The engineers that designed the GMC installed them for a reason and I reckon
they knew what they were doing.

Keep in mind that the Toronado never had an engine oil cooler. I can't
remember if it did have a tranny cooler or not, however, I "think" may have.

If your OEM radiator shows no signs of water leakage then I would remove it
have it cleaned and tested at a radiator shop then have both the coolers
cleaned by a company that has a Hotflush machine:

http://www.hotflusher.com/automotive/Jay-Leno-Hot-Flush.cfm

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Subject: [GMCnet] Replacement Aluminum Radiator

Any vendor bringing one to Shawnee? What would be cost?

Are engine and tranny coolers mandatory? Same questions as in sentence
above.

Thinking about an S&J engine and their "warnings" sort of scare me!

~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~


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Re: [GMCnet] Replacement Aluminum Radiator [message #313804 is a reply to message #313792] Sat, 25 February 2017 21:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   United States
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USAussie wrote on Sat, 25 February 2017 16:20
<snip>
If your OEM radiator shows no signs of water leakage then I would remove it
have it cleaned and tested at a radiator shop then have both the coolers
cleaned by a company that has a Hotflush machine:

Regards,

To my knowledge, every automatic transmission that has a torque converter has an external cooler of some sort and the cheapest with a liquid cooled system is make it part of the primary heat exchanger (what everybody else in the world calls a radiator).

If I ever had to do something about mine, I would replace the engine lube oil cooler with a Modine donut at the oil filter and string water side in series with the house water heater. The transmission cooler I have to think about.

The cooler hot flush cleaners are common around aircraft where cooler are much more expensive to replace. I used to have access to one, but Zantop folded in 2001.

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] Replacement Aluminum Radiator [message #313808 is a reply to message #313784] Sat, 25 February 2017 22:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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Gene Dotson and Jim Buchanan own the design and manufacturing rights to the GMC aluminum radiator that is manufactured by Griffin.

Jim K. can also order one for you.

Gene is pretty much retired so I suggest that you contact Jim Buchanan and see if he is bringing one to Shawnee. In the past Jim or Gene have brought at least one for a display model. If Jim is not coming and bringing one for display and sale, then ask Jim K. to order one for you. If you order one you probably will not get it in time for the rally, but ask Jim K. for sure. He has been known to pull off some impossible things in the past when necessary.


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Re: [GMCnet] Replacement Aluminum Radiator [message #313851 is a reply to message #313804] Sun, 26 February 2017 21:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hal StClair   United States
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Matt Colie wrote on Sat, 25 February 2017 20:36
USAussie wrote on Sat, 25 February 2017 16:20
<snip>
If your OEM radiator shows no signs of water leakage then I would remove it
have it cleaned and tested at a radiator shop then have both the coolers
cleaned by a company that has a Hotflush machine:

Regards,

To my knowledge, every automatic transmission that has a torque converter has an external cooler of some sort and the cheapest with a liquid cooled system is make it part of the primary heat exchanger (what everybody else in the world calls a radiator).

If I ever had to do something about mine, I would replace the engine lube oil cooler with a Modine donut at the oil filter and string water side in series with the house water heater. The transmission cooler I have to think about.

The cooler hot flush cleaners are common around aircraft where cooler are much more expensive to replace. I used to have access to one, but Zantop folded in 2001.

Matt



You don't remember the air cooled Powerglides Matt. Guess when your get as old as me you get to remember all those worthless little details. Laughing Laughing
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Re: [GMCnet] Replacement Aluminum Radiator [message #313853 is a reply to message #313851] Sun, 26 February 2017 21:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hal kading is currently offline  hal kading   United States
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Other NM Hal said "you get to remember all those worthless little details"

And when you get as old as me you don't remember much else!

Hal Kading Buskirk Stretch Las Cruces NM
Re: [GMCnet] Replacement Aluminum Radiator [message #313880 is a reply to message #313784] Mon, 27 February 2017 13:50 Go to previous message
Scott Nutter is currently offline  Scott Nutter   United States
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Matt,
Those are some oldies!
Zantop, ONA, Rosenbaum, Capital, etc.....
I was with Capital for a couple of years in the early 80's. Those beautiful DC-8's!!!
Scott.


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