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| Best non-aerosol plastic paint [message #312910] |
Wed, 08 February 2017 08:32  |
kwharland
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My question is twofold...
I removed the upper rear cabinets and wrap-around curtains yesterday and found that the plastic rear shell is discolored and ugly. It isn't damaged anywhere but I have no doubt it's very brittle considering the age. Has anyone painted these things with a brush-on paint intended for plastics? I'd expect that others have done their dash without removing it and I'd like to re-color it as well.
And while we are on the subject of interior re-finishing, is there a product that's suitable for painting over all that woodgrain Formica? I feel like I've been transported back in time to the seventies every time I step foot inside our coach. I have all the upper cabinets out and the amount of woodgrain Formica on them isn't all that much so it could be removed and recovered but then how would I match that to the rest of the interior?
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1978 Eleganza II
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| Re: [GMCnet] Best non-aerosol plastic paint [message #312912 is a reply to message #312910] |
Wed, 08 February 2017 09:15  |
Ethan James
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I wonder if the yellowing issue is the same as old computers, etc (they
added bromine as a fire retardant). If so, I wonder if using hydrogen
peroxide gel + a UV light would restore it. I was going to try this on the
AC cover once the weather got warmer (and use the free UV outside). I've
heard people use this stuff because it's cheap and easy to get.
http://www.sallybeauty.com//creme-developer/SBS-760635,default,pd.html
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Ethan James
Early 1976 Glenbrook 26'
Roanoke, VA
On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 9:33 AM Ken Harland wrote:
My question is twofold...
I removed the upper rear cabinets and wrap-around curtains yesterday and
found that the plastic rear shell is discolored and ugly. It isn't damaged
anywhere but I have no doubt it's very brittle considering the age. Has
anyone painted these things with a brush-on paint intended for plastics?
I'd
expect that others have done their dash without removing it and I'd like to
re-color it as well.
And while we are on the subject of interior re-finishing, is there a
product that's suitable for painting over all that woodgrain Formica? I
feel
like I've been transported back in time to the seventies every time I step
foot inside our coach. I have all the upper cabinets out and the amount of
woodgrain Formica on them isn't all that much so it could be removed and
recovered but then how would I match that to the rest of the interior?
Thanks.
--
1978 Eleganza II
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| Re: [GMCnet] Best non-aerosol plastic paint [message #312922 is a reply to message #312920] |
Wed, 08 February 2017 11:43 |
Dolph Santorine
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I always use a charcoal respirator when spraying paint.
No problem.
Dolph Santorine
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Wheeling, West Virginia
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1-ton, Sullybuilt Bags, Reaction Arms, 3.70 LSD, Manny Transmission, EV-6010,
> On Feb 8, 2017, at 12:37 PM, David H. Jarvis wrote:
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> A Hamilto wrote on Wed, 08 February 2017 09:14
>> kwharland wrote on Wed, 08 February 2017 08:32
>>> ...the plastic rear shell is discolored and ugly. ...Has anyone painted these things with a brush-on paint intended for plastics? I'd expect
>>> that others have done their dash without removing it and I'd like to re-color it as well. ...
>> If you don't get any answers to that: It might be seem like more work, but I can't think of any reason you couldn't mask off everything with
>> painter's tape and newspaper and spray paint it.
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> If he can hold his breath for 10 minutes, that may work.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Best non-aerosol plastic paint [message #312923 is a reply to message #312920] |
Wed, 08 February 2017 12:01 |
James Hupy
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This is an aside to your intention to change the appearance of the interior
of your coach. No disrespect intended here, but you need to think forward
to the day when you will transfer ownership of your coach to the next
curator of your rolling history museum. Please do no harm, and leave only
footprints. Painting with brush or roller on formica is akin to putting
lipstick on a pig. Under the cosmetics, ugly still exists. If you really
want to upgrade your countertops, and your sub structure is in good shape,
remove your sink and faucets, cook top, and anything else that penetrates
your countertops. Sand them thoroughly with 60 or 80 grit abrasives, clean
and degrease them, and apply new formica directly over the old material.
Use a lighter solid color without patterns. If you do a good job here, the
future owners of your coach will thank, not curse, you as the P.O. who
screwed up their coach with a paint brush or roller. My opinion only. May
not reflect the majority one.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403
On Feb 8, 2017 9:38 AM, "David H. Jarvis" wrote:
> A Hamilto wrote on Wed, 08 February 2017 09:14
>> kwharland wrote on Wed, 08 February 2017 08:32
>>> ...the plastic rear shell is discolored and ugly. ...Has anyone
> painted these things with a brush-on paint intended for plastics? I'd
> expect
>>> that others have done their dash without removing it and I'd like to
> re-color it as well. ...
>> If you don't get any answers to that: It might be seem like more work,
> but I can't think of any reason you couldn't mask off everything with
>> painter's tape and newspaper and spray paint it.
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> If he can hold his breath for 10 minutes, that may work.
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| Re: Best non-aerosol plastic paint [message #312924 is a reply to message #312920] |
Wed, 08 February 2017 12:34 |
A Hamilto
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Harry wrote on Wed, 08 February 2017 11:37A Hamilto wrote on Wed, 08 February 2017 09:14kwharland wrote on Wed, 08 February 2017 08:32...the plastic rear shell is discolored and ugly. ...Has anyone painted these things with a brush-on paint intended for plastics? I'd expect that others have done their dash without removing it and I'd like to re-color it as well. ... If you don't get any answers to that: It might be seem like more work, but I can't think of any reason you couldn't mask off everything with painter's tape and newspaper and spray paint it.
If he can hold his breath for 10 minutes, that may work. I never considered doing it with the windows closed. Here where the weather is conducive to human habitation, we just catch a day when it is warm enough to work with the windows open. Rarely have to wait more than a couple of days for that to happen, even in "winter". Today its supposed to be mid to high 60s. There will be a dip tomorrow when the high won't hit 50, then back around 60 Friday, near 70 Saturday and Sunday.
What's the minimum temperature for rattle can paint for plastic?
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| Re: Best non-aerosol plastic paint [message #312925 is a reply to message #312910] |
Wed, 08 February 2017 12:47 |
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If, after thorough cleaning (cig tars, grease, and oil) your plastic is still yellow, it is probably UV damage. Here is a site with instructions for removing the damage.
http://www.instructables.com/id/Restoring-yellowed-Stormtrooper-armor/
It is great for the AC cover and discolored window frames. It can be used for the front and rear caps and other plastic interior parts.
Of course, if you want to change color...
kwharland wrote on Wed, 08 February 2017 06:32My question is twofold...
I removed the upper rear cabinets and wrap-around curtains yesterday and found that the plastic rear shell is discolored and ugly. It isn't damaged anywhere but I have no doubt it's very brittle considering the age. Has anyone painted these things with a brush-on paint intended for plastics? I'd expect that others have done their dash without removing it and I'd like to re-color it as well.
And while we are on the subject of interior re-finishing, is there a product that's suitable for painting over all that woodgrain Formica? I feel like I've been transported back in time to the seventies every time I step foot inside our coach. I have all the upper cabinets out and the amount of woodgrain Formica on them isn't all that much so it could be removed and recovered but then how would I match that to the rest of the interior?
Thanks.
Jerry Burt Fresno, CA.
73 Gmc 26' Canyon Lands
Members: FMCA - GMCMI - GMCWS
A truly happy person is one who can enjoy the scenery on a detour.
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| Re: Best non-aerosol plastic paint [message #312938 is a reply to message #312910] |
Wed, 08 February 2017 14:33 |
nchapekis
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kwharland wrote on Wed, 08 February 2017 09:32
I removed the upper rear cabinets and wrap-around curtains yesterday and found that the plastic rear shell is discolored and ugly. It isn't damaged anywhere but I have no doubt it's very brittle considering the age. Has anyone painted these things with a brush-on paint intended for plastics? I'd expect that others have done their dash without removing it and I'd like to re-color it as well.
We did both our front and rear caps right after buying our coach 14 years ago. Rather than remove them, we painted them in place using and foam brushes and Krylon Fusion plastic paint:
http://www.krylon.com/press-room/press-releases/2011/04/krylon-introduces-the-first-brush-on-paint-for-plastic/
The website says it was introduced in 2011, but I know they had a brush-on product back in 2003 since I still have the original can of paint (use it for touch ups). It still looks great after all this time and has not discolored at all.
Spray painted our dash with SEM vinyl paint the following year prior to re-carpeting the entire coach. Had all the furniture out, plus the dash bezel and steering wheel. Basically turned the cockpit into a paint booth, masking off the windows and dropping a plastic curtain across the steps.
I with Jim Hupy, though: don't paint the laminate.
Nick Chapekis
Ypsilanti, MI
former owner - 78 Kingsley
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| Re: Best non-aerosol plastic paint [message #312945 is a reply to message #312910] |
Wed, 08 February 2017 21:38 |
kwharland
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Thanks for the replies.
I'll look for Fusion paint in brushable form for the rear shell. And since it's inside, I doubt the color change is from UV, more likely just age and heat. If I find it brushes well enough, I'll probably do the dash in the same way.
I really couldn't conceive of painting Formica but I've seen so many pictures of interiors that are neutral colors and doubt every one was recovered in new laminate so thought maybe there was a product I've never seen or heard of before although that's not likely as I still paint a bit, both cars and boats and soon an RV as well. And I always wear a respirator although with some of the newer paints, I should be using an air supply.
An interesting aside here, I never realized the ceiling in the cockpit was also a plastic shell as our coach is completely carpeted. I doubt I could manage to do that to the rear shell though, too many curves.
1978 Eleganza II
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| Re: [GMCnet] Best non-aerosol plastic paint [message #312949 is a reply to message #312945] |
Thu, 09 February 2017 09:00 |
Keith V
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Maybe I'm confused but I painted my rear cap with normal household latex interior paint. It's not really plastic more like fiberboard.
I used a small foam roller and it looks great.
Unless you are talking about the plastic trim around the windows? Then yes they are brittle and yellow.
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From: Gmclist on behalf of Ken Harland
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Best non-aerosol plastic paint
Thanks for the replies.
I'll look for Fusion paint in brushable form for the rear shell. And since it's inside, I doubt the color change is from UV, more likely just age and
heat. If I find it brushes well enough, I'll probably do the dash in the same way.
I really couldn't conceive of painting Formica but I've seen so many pictures of interiors that are neutral colors and doubt every one was recovered
in new laminate so thought maybe there was a product I've never seen or heard of before although that's not likely as I still paint a bit, both cars
and boats and soon an RV as well. And I always wear a respirator although with some of the newer paints, I should be using an air supply.
An interesting aside here, I never realized the ceiling in the cockpit was also a plastic shell as our coach is completely carpeted. I doubt I could
manage to do that to the rear shell though, too many curves.
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1978 Eleganza II
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| Re: [GMCnet] Best non-aerosol plastic paint [message #312970 is a reply to message #312949] |
Thu, 09 February 2017 16:35 |
kwharland
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Keith V wrote on Thu, 09 February 2017 10:00Maybe I'm confused but I painted my rear cap with normal household latex interior paint. It's not really plastic more like fiberboard.
I used a small foam roller and it looks great.
Unless you are talking about the plastic trim around the windows? Then yes they are brittle and yellow.
I'm pretty sure this is a molded shell, too complex of a shape to be fiberboard.
1978 Eleganza II
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