Hi-Torque Mini Starter [message #312501] |
Wed, 25 January 2017 11:33 |
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Messages: 6 Registered: November 2012 Location: SoCal
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Anybody out there using one of the Hi-torque Mini Starters? My stock starter is dragging - again - and was considering an upgrade. Have seen a note next to some listed for 455CI Olds (Not Motor home or Toronado) not for FWD. Don't see any clearance issues and don't believe the block is any different RWD vs. FWD.
Any help appreciated.
Bob
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Re: [GMCnet] Hi-Torque Mini Starter [message #312506 is a reply to message #312501] |
Wed, 25 January 2017 12:07 |
Ken Henderson
Messages: 8726 Registered: March 2004 Location: Americus, GA
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Bob,
I'm pretty sure you'll find that the reason for the "Not for MH..." note is
that the mini-starter you're considering is designed to mount on the LEFT
side of the engine, as in RWD vehicles, using vertical bolts. That
obviously won't work on the RIGHT side of a MH engine, using horizontal
bolts.
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL,
Manny Brakes & 1-Ton, etc., etc., etc.
www.gmcwipersetc.com
On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Robert Smith wrote:
> Anybody out there using one of the Hi-torque Mini Starters? My stock
> starter is dragging - again - and was considering an upgrade. Have seen a
> note
> next to some listed for 455CI Olds (Not Motor home or Toronado) not for
> FWD. Don't see any clearance issues and don't believe the block is any
> different RWD vs. FWD.
>
> Any help appreciated.
>
> Bob
>
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76 X-Birchaven
76 X-Palm Beach
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Re: Hi-Torque Mini Starter [message #312512 is a reply to message #312501] |
Wed, 25 January 2017 16:46 |
jhbridges
Messages: 8412 Registered: May 2011 Location: Braselton ga
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My experience has been, dragging is usually due to a worn front bushing, assuming proper connections. An easy cheap fix.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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Re: [GMCnet] Hi-Torque Mini Starter [message #312519 is a reply to message #312512] |
Wed, 25 January 2017 19:23 |
James Hupy
Messages: 6806 Registered: May 2010
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Back in the early days of Olds V-8 engines (1949 - 1954) they had 6 volt
electrical systems. When they got warmed up, the starters would heat soak.
The electrical resistance would increase dramatically, they would crank
slower and with the additional resistance, the ignition spark would get
weaker. They would crank, but not start. In 1955, Olds went to a 12 volt
GENERATOR. They continued using the larger diameter battery cables used
with the 6 volt system for a couple more years until their stock of wire
harnesses and cables were used up. Then they changed over to harnesses and
cables that were one half the diameter of the 6 volt. That is essentially
the harness sizes that the GMC was originally fitted with. So much for the
history of GM wire harnesses. The starters still do not have shields to
protect the starter from exhaust heat, they still heat soak, and when the
harnesses degrade with age and heat, they still slow crank and no start.
All this puts more wear and tear on the bushings and brushes and pinion
gear and solenoid in the starter. The fix? Battery cables and chassis
grounds. Chase the harnesses from end to end, convert ignition systems to
electronic, GET RID OF THAT RESISTOR BURIED INSIDE THE ENGINE WIRE HARNESS,
keep your batteries in good shape and charged. All this does not cost very
much. But, if you really want your coach to start quickly, install fuel
injection. Day and night difference. It goes without saying much more, that
a good electrical tune up of the plugs and secondary wires, cap and rotor
helps a lot too.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403
On Jan 25, 2017 4:40 PM, "Johnny Bridges via Gmclist" <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> My experience has been, dragging is usually due to a worn front bushing,
> assuming proper connections. An easy cheap fix.
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> --johnny
> --
> '76 23' transmode Norris upfit, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and
> add - ons.
> Braselton, Ga.
> "The road goes on forever, and the party never ends" --Robert Earl Keen
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