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House vs Chassis wiring [message #312495] Wed, 25 January 2017 10:18 Go to next message
LNelson is currently offline  LNelson   United States
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I am starting to think that my house (living area) 12v system is connected to my chassis battery and am wondering if the PO had made some modifications. I have the rig in it's garage (14' from me) and I recently replaced the house batteries (2-6v golf cart) and thought nothing more of it. Then, this past weekend I wanted to pump out. I have a place to drain in my garage, but the macerator did not want to macerate, and I finally diagnosed that. But when I unplugged from shore power, and had the house batteries disconnected, I noticed I still had interior lighting. Why would that be? I put a voltmeter on my buzz box and nothing there. Why would I still have power to the interior lighting? Probably something stupid.....right?

Thanks in advance for the enlightenment that is sure to come.

Larry


Larry Nelson Springfield, MO Ex GMC'er, then GM Busnut now '77 Eleganza ARS WB0JOT
Re: House vs Chassis wiring [message #312498 is a reply to message #312495] Wed, 25 January 2017 11:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bullitthead is currently offline  Bullitthead   United States
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Check your isolator to see if it is shorted.

Terry Kelpien ASE Master Technician 73 Glacier 260 Smithfield, Va.
Re: House vs Chassis wiring [message #312499 is a reply to message #312498] Wed, 25 January 2017 11:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bullitthead is currently offline  Bullitthead   United States
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Or even more likely a shorted/fused combiner if you have one them in the system.

Terry Kelpien ASE Master Technician 73 Glacier 260 Smithfield, Va.
Re: House vs Chassis wiring [message #312504 is a reply to message #312495] Wed, 25 January 2017 11:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lqqkatjon is currently offline  lqqkatjon   United States
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Do you have any Solar? and what house lights (I think my cockpit lights run off the engine battery). If the engine is running, then the alternator should power the house lights in the rear. there can be a few places 12v power can be introduced into the system, and it can get confusing.. best place to test is at the boost solenoid, and the isolator. if the isolator fails it could allow voltage to go between the two systems. or other PO modification.

be really careful testing, and pay attention to what is connected or not connected. you should also replace your buzzbox to get the max life out of those new batteries.


Jon Roche 75 palm beach EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now. St. Cloud, MN http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
Re: House vs Chassis wiring [message #312507 is a reply to message #312495] Wed, 25 January 2017 12:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Adrien G. is currently offline  Adrien G.   United States
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Larry,

The separation of the 2 systems is at 2 places at the firewall; the alternator isolator, and at the boost solenoid.
As said, either the isolator is bad or jumped between top and bottom posts. Or the boost solenoid is
stuck (or powered) closed, jumped wire from chassis batt to house batt. Or the dash boost switch is shorted powering the solenoid.
It be too much work to combine the systems elsewhere.

MH 2 cents.



Adrien & Jenny Genesoto 75 Glenbrook (26-3) Mods LS3.70 FD / Reaction Sys / 80mm Front&Intermidiate / Hydroboost / 16" Tires / Frame Rebuild / Interior Rebuild Yuba City,Ca. Text 530-nine-3-three-3-nine-nine-6
Re: [GMCnet] House vs Chassis wiring [message #312514 is a reply to message #312504] Wed, 25 January 2017 16:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Brian Waddell is currently offline  Brian Waddell   United States
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interesting story....,my house batts ran down with nothing I thought connected,....turned out the house vac system was plugged into a receptical where it resides....ear up to the vacuum motor box revealed a hummmmmm...unplugged that and no more problems....Brian 77 ele 455


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Do you have any Solar? and what house lights (I think my cockpit lights run off the engine battery). If the engine is running, then the
alternator should power the house lights in the rear. there can be a few places 12v power can be introduced into the system, and it can get
confusing.. best place to test is at the boost solenoid, and the isolator. if the isolator fails it could allow voltage to go between the two
systems. or other PO modification.

be really careful testing, and pay attention to what is connected or not connected. you should also replace your buzzbox to get the max life out of
those new batteries.
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Jon Roche
75 palm beach
St. Cloud, MN
http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/

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Re: [GMCnet] House vs Chassis wiring [message #312521 is a reply to message #312514] Thu, 26 January 2017 02:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm confused. I thought the vacuum system ran on 120 VAC. If so, then what does that have to do with depleting the 12 volt house battery(s)?



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Re: [GMCnet] House vs Chassis wiring [message #312537 is a reply to message #312521] Thu, 26 January 2017 18:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I am confused to....was hoping you could explain this....I got rid of buzz box and changed my solenoids in rear and put in new isolater.....have not re checked the vacuum...just leave it unplugged until I wish to use it ..just pointing out this possible current draw from house batteries but do not know why.....Brian 77 ele 455


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I'm confused. I thought the vacuum system ran on 120 VAC. If so, then what does that have to do with depleting the 12 volt house battery(s)?


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Re: [GMCnet] House vs Chassis wiring [message #312538 is a reply to message #312537] Thu, 26 January 2017 18:48 Go to previous message
Emery Stora is currently offline  Emery Stora   United States
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Forget about the vacuum cleaner. As Ken Burton says IT DOES NOT DRAW ANYTHING FROM THE 12 VOLT CIRCUIT!

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO

> On Jan 26, 2017, at 5:19 PM, Brian Waddell wrote:
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> I am confused to....was hoping you could explain this....I got rid of buzz box and changed my solenoids in rear and put in new isolator.....have not re checked the vacuum...just leave it unplugged until I wish to use it ..just pointing out this possible current draw from house batteries but do not know why.....Brian 77 ele 455
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> I'm confused. I thought the vacuum system ran on 120 VAC. If so, then what does that have to do with depleting the 12 volt house battery(s)?
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