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Bogie swing arm locating pins [message #311968] Tue, 10 January 2017 13:30 Go to next message
larry.whisler is currently offline  larry.whisler   
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GMCers,

I am in the process of doing a bogie control arm mounting pin
and associated bushing replacement on our 76 Glenbrook.

The bushings in the control arm were badly worn and as a result
of this, several of the locating pins were sheared off.

These are the three locating pins that are mounted into the ends of the control
arm that the thrust washer fits onto.

Does anyone out here have a replacemnt part number for these little pins?


Any help would be appreciated.

larry









Re: [GMCnet] Bogie swing arm locating pins [message #311987 is a reply to message #311968] Tue, 10 January 2017 16:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sgltrac is currently offline  sgltrac   United States
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Tally to kanotamato at applied. He has the reaming too as well which you
will need to size the bushings.

Sully
77 eleganza 2
Seattle
On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 11:31 AM larry.whisler
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> GMCers,
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> I am in the process of doing a bogie control arm mounting pin
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> and associated bushing replacement wellon our 76 Glenbrook.
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> The bushings in the control arm were badly worn and as a result
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> of this, several of the locating pins were sheared off.
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Re: [GMCnet] Bogie swing arm locating pins [message #311990 is a reply to message #311987] Tue, 10 January 2017 16:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've been in contact with JimK about this issue. Bought the kit
from him. I have the reaming tool and am at the point to ream the
installed bushings.

These locating/alignment pins have to be something readily available, I've
drilled out a couple of the sheared pins already.

I suppose I could drive a finishing nail in the hole and snip it off.

But I thought that there would be something at the parts store ready to install.

larry


Re: [GMCnet] Bogie swing arm locating pins [message #311996 is a reply to message #311968] Tue, 10 January 2017 17:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You really don’t need the locating pins. The flat bushings do not need to remain stationary.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO
> On Jan 10, 2017, at 12:30 PM, larry.whisler wrote:
>
> GMCers,
>
> I am in the process of doing a bogie control arm mounting pin
> and associated bushing replacement on our 76 Glenbrook.
>
> The bushings in the control arm were badly worn and as a result
> of this, several of the locating pins were sheared off.
>
> These are the three locating pins that are mounted into the ends of the control
> arm that the thrust washer fits onto.
>
> Does anyone out here have a replacemnt part number for these little pins?
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> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> larry
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Re: [GMCnet] Bogie swing arm locating pins [message #311997 is a reply to message #311990] Tue, 10 January 2017 17:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Larry,

It was in '98 that I last looked at those pins & I've slept SEVERAL times
since then, so I don't recall what they look like. But, if I were hunting
something like that, I'd probably go, as I so often do, to McMaster.com and
search for "pins". You'll find a wide assortment available. If my
experience is any indication, they may have already shipped them to
you...at least that's how my deliveries usually work. :-)

Ken H.


On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 5:56 PM, larry.whisler
wrote:

> I've been in contact with JimK about this issue. Bought the kit
> from him. I have the reaming tool and am at the point to ream the
> installed bushings.
>
> These locating/alignment pins have to be something readily available, I've
> drilled out a couple of the sheared pins already.
>
> I suppose I could drive a finishing nail in the hole and snip it off.
>
> But I thought that there would be something at the parts store ready to
> install.
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Re: [GMCnet] Bogie swing arm locating pins [message #311998 is a reply to message #311996] Tue, 10 January 2017 17:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I grind the rolled pins flush with the bogie forging. The new thrust
washers don't come with holes, and they really don't need to remain
stationary. Don't ream those new bushings any more than it takes to install
the bogie pins.
Jim Hupy

On Jan 10, 2017 3:40 PM, "Emery Stora" wrote:

> You really don’t need the locating pins. The flat bushings do not need to
> remain stationary.
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> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Frederick, CO
>> On Jan 10, 2017, at 12:30 PM, larry.whisler
> wrote:
>>
>> GMCers,
>>
>> I am in the process of doing a bogie control arm mounting pin
>> and associated bushing replacement on our 76 Glenbrook.
>>
>> The bushings in the control arm were badly worn and as a result
>> of this, several of the locating pins were sheared off.
>>
>> These are the three locating pins that are mounted into the ends of the
> control
>> arm that the thrust washer fits onto.
>>
>> Does anyone out here have a replacemnt part number for these little pins?
>>
>>
>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>
>> larry
>>
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>>
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Re: [GMCnet] Bogie swing arm locating pins [message #312003 is a reply to message #311998] Tue, 10 January 2017 19:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jp Benson is currently offline  Jp Benson   United States
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I bought a couple of those pins from Northern Tools. Found them in one of the small drawers in the nut/bolt rack. Don't recall the size.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/restoration-photos/p42651-alignment-pin.html

JP
Re: Bogie swing arm locating pins [message #312009 is a reply to message #311968] Tue, 10 January 2017 22:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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FWIW, Looking at the photo JP posted, I believe these are called "roll pins", and are a fairly common hardware item. OTOH, if Emery says you don't need them, I believe him. Wink

Rick Staples, '75 Eleganza, Johnstown, CO "Advice is a dangerous gift, even from the Wise to the Wise, and all paths may run ill." -Tolkien
Re: [GMCnet] Bogie swing arm locating pins [message #312011 is a reply to message #312009] Tue, 10 January 2017 22:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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Richard, you are real close. "Rolled Pins" is their precise name, but they
are often times referred to as "roll pins". High quality ones are made of
spring steel, and are quite hard and difficult to drill with conventional
high speed drill bits. That is why I just grind them off. As do many others
who work on these bogie arms.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403

On Jan 10, 2017 8:32 PM, "Richard H Staples" wrote:

> FWIW, Looking at the photo JP posted, I believe these are called "roll
> pins", and are a fairly common hardware item. OTOH, if Emery says you don't
> need them, I believe him. ;)
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Re: [GMCnet] Bogie swing arm locating pins [message #312019 is a reply to message #312011] Wed, 11 January 2017 07:26 Go to previous message
Jp Benson is currently offline  Jp Benson   United States
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As seen in the picture my "rolled pins" were nearly flush. It appears that their main purpose is to hold the washer in place during assembly. When I tried to drill the pins one drilled easily and the others were too tough for the drill bits. On the one that drilled out the hole was much deeper than the pin so I pressed the others to the bottom of the hole and inserted the new pins on top of them.

JWID,

JP
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