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Sat, 15 October 2016 11:41  |
Jim B n Lurch
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Hello all. I'm Jim Bell @ 24084. I bought Lurch in 2009 and it is slowly becoming usable. If I'd known what I know now, I wouldn't have bought Lurch. Hindsight is 20/20. It had a repaint and interior redo in the 90's, but the mechs were a mess. The Coop did superior work for me (Three weeklong visits. Jim Bounds went out of his way to help. This is before the Coop moved to their new digs) At the Ohio rally, Alex Ferrera noted that the steering gear alignment was correct, but noted feathering on some of the tires. He also suggested cleaning the filter screen going to the wiper motor. That made a difference, but...
I can do oil changes and simple maintenance, not a wheel alignment on a 6 wheeled coach.
Here is my issue. Alex noted feathering on some tires. That indicates an alignment problem. I have to have a hand on the wheel at ALL times and watch the road.
Who can make my coach steer right? Going to FL takes two days down and two days back. Is there anyone closer?
Thanks in advance, I am, Jim Bell.
Jim Bell, Dublin VA -
1974 GMC Motorhome -"Lurch" bought in 2009 - TZE064V100846
1972 BMW 2002tii - good condition -
1973 BMW 2002tii - poor/fair condition -
2003 Lincoln TC - Daily driver.
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| Re: Steering Alignment [message #308757 is a reply to message #308756] |
Sat, 15 October 2016 12:40  |
A Hamilto
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Jim B n Lurch wrote on Sat, 15 October 2016 11:41Hello all.
I'm Jim Bell @ 24084. I bought Lurch in 2009 and it is slowly becoming usable. If I'd known what I know now, I wouldn't have bought Lurch. Hindsight is 20/20. It had a repaint and interior redo in the 90's, but the mechs were a mess. The Coop did superior work for me (Three weeklong visits. Jim Bounds went out of his way to help. This is before the Coop moved to their new digs) At the Ohio rally, Alex Ferrera noted that the steering gear alignment was correct, but noted feathering on some of the tires. He also suggested cleaning the filter screen going to the wiper motor. That made a difference, but...
I can do oil changes and simple maintenance, not a wheel alignment on a 6 wheeled coach.
Here is my issue. Alex noted feathering on some tires. That indicates an alignment problem. I have to have a hand on the wheel at ALL times and watch the road.
Who can make my coach steer right? Going to FL takes two days down and two days back. Is there anyone closer?
Thanks in advance, I am, Jim Bell. You should have made it easier on folks and said you are in Dublin, VA. Many people here won't expend the effort to resolve the number you posted, even the ones that recognize it as a zip code. Oddly, they will expend the same effort to post a reply asking where you are.
You need to tell us if it is the front or rear tires that are wearing unevenly. And which side(s). If just the front tires, start by getting any old shadetree mechanic to adjust the toe-in to 0 (zero) and see what that does. The rears are another animal. The only professional GMC mechanic that I am aware of other than CA and FL would be Tom Hampton in Marysville, OH. About 325 miles from Dublin, VA.
Grandview Motorhome
13880 Weaver Rd
Marysville, OH 43040
(937) 644-4238
You will need to schedule weeks (maybe months) in advance. He is a busy man.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Steering Alignment [message #308762 is a reply to message #308757] |
Sat, 15 October 2016 13:43 |
George Zhookoff
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Join the Dixielanders and make a trip to Bean Station for the best DIY get together around.
George "bringing the coach home from Austin next week" Zhookoff
78 EL II
Atlanta
> On Oct 15, 2016, at 1:41 PM, A. wrote:
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> Jim B n Lurch wrote on Sat, 15 October 2016 11:41
>> Hello all.
>> I'm Jim Bell @ 24084. I bought Lurch in 2009 and it is slowly becoming usable. If I'd known what I know now, I wouldn't have bought Lurch.
>> Hindsight is 20/20. It had a repaint and interior redo in the 90's, but the mechs were a mess. The Coop did superior work for me (Three weeklong
>> visits. Jim Bounds went out of his way to help. This is before the Coop moved to their new digs) At the Ohio rally, Alex Ferrera noted that the
>> steering gear alignment was correct, but noted feathering on some of the tires. He also suggested cleaning the filter screen going to the wiper
>> motor. That made a difference, but...
>>
>> I can do oil changes and simple maintenance, not a wheel alignment on a 6 wheeled coach.
>>
>> Here is my issue. Alex noted feathering on some tires. That indicates an alignment problem. I have to have a hand on the wheel at ALL times and
>> watch the road.
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>> Who can make my coach steer right? Going to FL takes two days down and two days back. Is there anyone closer?
>>
>> Thanks in advance, I am, Jim Bell.
> You should have made it easier on folks and said you are in Dublin, VA. Many people here won't expend the effort to resolve the number you posted,
> even the ones that recognize it as a zip code. Oddly, they will expend the same effort to post a reply asking where you are.
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> You need to tell us if it is the front or rear tires that are wearing unevenly. And which side(s). If just the front tires, start by getting any old
> shadetree mechanic to adjust the toe-in to 0 (zero) and see what that does. The rears are another animal. The only professional GMC mechanic that I am
> aware of other than CA and FL would be Tom Hampton in Marysville, OH. About 325 miles from Dublin, VA.
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> Grandview Motorhome
> 13880 Weaver Rd
> Marysville, OH 43040
> (937) 644-4238
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> You will need to schedule weeks (maybe months) in advance. He is a busy man.
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| Re: Steering Alignment [message #308777 is a reply to message #308757] |
Sat, 15 October 2016 17:37 |
Jim B n Lurch
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Thanks for the heads up abt Tom Hampton in Marysville, OH.
Jim Bell, Dublin VA -
1974 GMC Motorhome -"Lurch" bought in 2009 - TZE064V100846
1972 BMW 2002tii - good condition -
1973 BMW 2002tii - poor/fair condition -
2003 Lincoln TC - Daily driver.
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| Re: Steering Alignment [message #308779 is a reply to message #308777] |
Sat, 15 October 2016 17:53 |
Jim B n Lurch
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To 'A Hamilto'. Just a btw. I grew up near you in Huntsville, AL. 1965-1970. Dad worked for GE during NASAs great age. Apollo, Mercury and even the beginnings of the space shuttle. He was an amazing man. Thanks again for your response!
Jim Bell, Dublin VA -
1974 GMC Motorhome -"Lurch" bought in 2009 - TZE064V100846
1972 BMW 2002tii - good condition -
1973 BMW 2002tii - poor/fair condition -
2003 Lincoln TC - Daily driver.
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| Re: Steering Alignment [message #308802 is a reply to message #308783] |
Sun, 16 October 2016 12:03 |
Jim B n Lurch
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OK Matt. Is this better?
Jim Bell, Dublin VA -
1974 GMC Motorhome -"Lurch" bought in 2009 - TZE064V100846
1972 BMW 2002tii - good condition -
1973 BMW 2002tii - poor/fair condition -
2003 Lincoln TC - Daily driver.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Steering Alignment [message #308810 is a reply to message #308802] |
Sun, 16 October 2016 14:23 |
powerjon
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Jim,
Because of the many models produced over the production run any information you provide helps us answer your questions to get you on your way. Your signature line is now just fine.
J.R. Wright
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Newsletter Editor/Publisher
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75 GMC Avion (Under Reconstruction)
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> On Oct 16, 2016, at 1:03 PM, Jim Bell wrote:
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> OK Matt. Is this better?
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> Jim Bell, Dublin VA -
> 1974 GMC Motorhome -"Lurch" bought in 2009 -
> 1972 BMW 2002tii - good condition -
> 1973 BMW 2002tii - poor/fair condition -
> 2003 Lincoln TC - Daily driver.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Steering Alignment [message #308823 is a reply to message #308815] |
Sun, 16 October 2016 17:15 |
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Whoa.....
Jim Bell, when the time comes, do let me know about that 2002tii !
Mike in NS
On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 6:25 PM, Matt Colie wrote:
> Jim B n Lurch wrote on Sun, 16 October 2016 13:03
>> OK Matt. Is this better?
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> Jim,
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> It is better, but it would be better still if you added Model (Sequoia 26
> i.e.). There were four GMC models in 73&4, and they came in 23' and 26.
> The only reason for the model is so we know it was a GMC (Gemini) interior
> (I believe there were no Transmodes in those years), but the differences
> between 23 and 26 are really important.
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> Matt
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| Re: Steering Alignment [message #308834 is a reply to message #308815] |
Sun, 16 October 2016 19:49 |
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Matt Colie wrote on Sun, 16 October 2016 16:25Jim B n Lurch wrote on Sun, 16 October 2016 13:03OK Matt. Is this better?
Jim,
It is better, but it would be better still if you added Model (Sequoia 26 i.e.). There were four GMC models in 73&4, and they came in 23' and 26. The only reason for the model is so we know it was a GMC (Gemini) interior (I believe there were no Transmodes in those years), but the differences between 23 and 26 are really important.
Matt
If the discussion involves freshwater tanks there is a significant difference in some floor plans. Any plan with a rear gaucho bed will have the water tank located in the middle of the coach running side to side. This floor plan only existed on the 73-74 models. Not sure where the tank is located on the permanent rear bed models.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: Steering Alignment [message #308934 is a reply to message #308834] |
Mon, 17 October 2016 19:59 |
Jim B n Lurch
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OK! but what do these questions about my TZE have to do about my request for "Who can fix my coach"?
I've gotten two good referrals. And I thank you. One is Glen Fry in PA and the other is Grandview Motorhome in OH.
I think the Coop is great and Alex Ferrera clued me in to some steering issues I have just by running his hand over the tires and looking for feathering. And cleaning the filter to the wiper motor did help.
Asking about my coach model is irrelevant. 23 or 26. Sequoia/Palm Beach? Whatever. I've taken my coach to several mechanics and only the GMC motorhome people get it
The local techs have been a mixed bag. I can get a state inspection sticker. Actually the first place I took it put a Virginia rejection sticker on it and REFUSED to work on it.
Jim Bell, Dublin VA -
1974 GMC Motorhome -"Lurch" bought in 2009 - TZE064V100846
1972 BMW 2002tii - good condition -
1973 BMW 2002tii - poor/fair condition -
2003 Lincoln TC - Daily driver.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Steering Alignment [message #308954 is a reply to message #308934] |
Mon, 17 October 2016 21:55 |
Ken Henderson
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Jim,
It's KEN Frye, not Glen.
You might also talk to Barry Owen in Lexington, NC. He should be in the
GMCMI roster.
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL,
Manny Brakes & 1-Ton, etc., etc., etc.
www.gmcwipersetc.com
On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 8:59 PM, Jim Bell wrote:
> OK! but what do these questions about my TZE have to do about my request
> for "Who can fix my coach"?
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| Re: [GMCnet] Steering Alignment [message #308971 is a reply to message #308954] |
Tue, 18 October 2016 07:54 |
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Barry's information is listed at:
http://www.gmcmi.com/service-repair-facilities/
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612.501.4600 | f.866.519.0047 | www.gmcmi.com
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On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 9:55 PM, Ken Henderson
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> Jim,
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> It's KEN Frye, not Glen.
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> You might also talk to Barry Owen in Lexington, NC. He should be in the
> GMCMI roster.
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> Ken H.
> Americus, GA
> '76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL,
> Manny Brakes & 1-Ton, etc., etc., etc.
> www.gmcwipersetc.com
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> On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 8:59 PM, Jim Bell wrote:
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>> OK! but what do these questions about my TZE have to do about my request
>> for "Who can fix my coach"?
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| Re: [GMCnet] Steering Alignment [message #308984 is a reply to message #308934] |
Tue, 18 October 2016 09:42 |
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Jim,
In VA, get the coach an antique license plate for $50 (one time) and avoid the inspection racket forever.
Jared & Stefanie Kohl
Rappahannock County, VA
1973 Painted Desert "Onslow"
On Monday, October 17, 2016 9:00 PM, Jim Bell wrote:
OK! but what do these questions about my TZE have to do about my request for "Who can fix my coach"?
I've gotten two good referrals. And I thank you. One is Glen Fry in PA and the other is Grandview Motorhome in OH.
I think the Coop is great and Alex Ferrera clued me in to some steering issues I have just by running his hand over the tires and looking for
feathering. And cleaning the filter to the wiper motor did help.
Asking about my coach model is irrelevant. 23 or 26. Sequoia/Palm Beach? Whatever. I've taken my coach to several mechanics and only the GMC
motorhome people get it
The local techs have been a mixed bag. I can get a state inspection sticker. Actually the first place I took it put a Virginia rejection sticker on
it and REFUSED to work on it.
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Jim Bell, Dublin VA -
1974 GMC Motorhome -"Lurch" bought in 2009 -
1972 BMW 2002tii - good condition -
1973 BMW 2002tii - poor/fair condition -
2003 Lincoln TC - Daily driver.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Steering Alignment [message #309016 is a reply to message #308984] |
Tue, 18 October 2016 17:26 |
Jim B n Lurch
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Apologies to Ken Frye. I had been listening to "Deperado". lol. And thanks again for your input. It is appreciated.
Jim Bell, Dublin VA -
1974 GMC Motorhome -"Lurch" bought in 2009 - TZE064V100846
1972 BMW 2002tii - good condition -
1973 BMW 2002tii - poor/fair condition -
2003 Lincoln TC - Daily driver.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Steering Alignment [message #309114 is a reply to message #308823] |
Thu, 20 October 2016 17:43 |
Jim B n Lurch
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to Kingsley Coach Karma: abt the 1972 BMW 2002tii. Glad you like it. Lots of GMC peps are gearheads too.
Jim Bell, Dublin VA -
1974 GMC Motorhome -"Lurch" bought in 2009 - TZE064V100846
1972 BMW 2002tii - good condition -
1973 BMW 2002tii - poor/fair condition -
2003 Lincoln TC - Daily driver.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Steering Alignment [message #320228 is a reply to message #309114] |
Sun, 09 July 2017 15:30 |
Jim B n Lurch
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Thanks to all of you for your help. Ken Frye in Quakertown PA did a great job and I recommend him to anyone for anything. If he can do it, he'll do it. If he can't do it, he'll tell you. My coach steers great now.
Jim Bell, Dublin VA -
1974 GMC Motorhome -"Lurch" bought in 2009 - TZE064V100846
1972 BMW 2002tii - good condition -
1973 BMW 2002tii - poor/fair condition -
2003 Lincoln TC - Daily driver.
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| Re: Steering Alignment [message #320231 is a reply to message #308756] |
Sun, 09 July 2017 16:14 |
Scott Nutter
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Jim,
What was it that Ken had to do to fix it? Or what was the problem that he found?
Scott
Scott Nutter
1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final drive, Quad bags, Dave Lenzi super duty mid axle disc brakes, tankless water heater, everything Lenzi. Alex Ferrera installed MSD Atomic EFI
Houston, Texas
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