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[GMCnet] Update on my GMC [message #308687] Thu, 13 October 2016 13:53 Go to next message
emerystora is currently offline  emerystora   United States
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I had posted that I had to be towed 172 miles home.

I have pulled the plugs and found the center of number 6 spark plug broken out.

I pulled the a/c compressor and valve cover and found the rocker on the #6 exhaust valve wasn't moving. The push rod was bent and out of the lifter. I pulled the intake push rod and put it down over the exhaust lifter and the rod moved up and down when cranking.
So, something in that cylinder hit the valve and spark plug.
I tested the compression and it was zero.
So, I either have a broken valve or hole in the piston or both.

I have 81,000 miles on this engine since it was installed in 2004 so I am going to pull it and have it rebuilt.

It will be at the Shawnee GMCMI convention next March.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO
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Re: [GMCnet] Update on my GMC [message #308689 is a reply to message #308687] Thu, 13 October 2016 14:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sgltrac is currently offline  sgltrac   United States
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bummer Emery.

Sully
77 eleganza 2
seattle

On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Emery Stora wrote:

> I had posted that I had to be towed 172 miles home.
>
> I have pulled the plugs and found the center of number 6 spark plug broken
> out.
>
> I pulled the a/c compressor and valve cover and found the rocker on the #6
> exhaust valve wasn't moving. The push rod was bent and out of the lifter. I
> pulled the intake push rod and put it down over the exhaust lifter and the
> rod moved up and down when cranking.
> So, something in that cylinder hit the valve and spark plug.
> I tested the compression and it was zero.
> So, I either have a broken valve or hole in the piston or both.
>
> I have 81,000 miles on this engine since it was installed in 2004 so I am
> going to pull it and have it rebuilt.
>
> It will be at the Shawnee GMCMI convention next March.
>
> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Frederick, CO
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Re: [GMCnet] Update on my GMC [message #308692 is a reply to message #308687] Thu, 13 October 2016 15:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JohnL455 is currently offline  JohnL455   United States
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On the bright side there were only 3 digits in the tow miles and not 4. I wonder if a stuck valve started the event. Glad you are home with it where you can eval.

John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
Re: [GMCnet] Update on my GMC [message #308701 is a reply to message #308689] Thu, 13 October 2016 18:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jeanette is currently offline  Jeanette   United States
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Sorry Emery. Hope the rebuild is fast n successful.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 13, 2016, at 2:41 PM, Todd Sullivan wrote:
>
> bummer Emery.
>
> Sully
> 77 eleganza 2
> seattle
>
>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Emery Stora wrote:
>>
>> I had posted that I had to be towed 172 miles home.
>>
>> I have pulled the plugs and found the center of number 6 spark plug broken
>> out.
>>
>> I pulled the a/c compressor and valve cover and found the rocker on the #6
>> exhaust valve wasn't moving. The push rod was bent and out of the lifter. I
>> pulled the intake push rod and put it down over the exhaust lifter and the
>> rod moved up and down when cranking.
>> So, something in that cylinder hit the valve and spark plug.
>> I tested the compression and it was zero.
>> So, I either have a broken valve or hole in the piston or both.
>>
>> I have 81,000 miles on this engine since it was installed in 2004 so I am
>> going to pull it and have it rebuilt.
>>
>> It will be at the Shawnee GMCMI convention next March.
>>
>> Emery Stora
>> 77 Kingsley
>> Frederick, CO
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Re: [GMCnet] Update on my GMC [message #308704 is a reply to message #308687] Thu, 13 October 2016 19:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerry pinkerton is currently offline  kerry pinkerton   United States
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Wow. That is surrounded by a large low pressure area for sure.

Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
Re: [GMCnet] Update on my GMC [message #308709 is a reply to message #308687] Thu, 13 October 2016 21:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SpookyEng is currently offline  SpookyEng   United States
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Sorry about your engine. I look forward to seeing the rebuild pics Smile

JD Lisenby- USAF Ret 1978 Royale-455 MacDash, Manny Tranny, FI-tech, 3.70 etc etc Navarre, FL
Re: [GMCnet] Update on my GMC [message #308716 is a reply to message #308687] Fri, 14 October 2016 07:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Larry is currently offline  Larry   United States
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I would be interested in post mortum conclusions. Very unusual to have a broken valve. Before you remove the engine, why not try pulling that head. Maybe all it needs is a head reconditioning. Would save a lot of time and effort. Just what I think.

Larry Smile
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
Re: [GMCnet] Update on my GMC [message #308718 is a reply to message #308716] Fri, 14 October 2016 08:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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I would wager that you will find an exhaust valve head separated from the
stem. (2 piece valve) If that is the case, you will need a different head,
and piston, and perhaps an engine block. Bad stuff for sure.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or. (Scurring for home before the windstorm hits on saturday)
On Oct 14, 2016 5:57 AM, "Larry" wrote:

> I would be interested in post mortum conclusions. Very unusual to have a
> broken valve. Before you remove the engine, why not try pulling that head.
> Maybe all it needs is a head reconditioning. Would save a lot of time and
> effort. Just what I think.
> --
> Larry
> 78 Royale w/500 Caddy
> Menomonie, WI.
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Re: [GMCnet] Update on my GMC [message #308720 is a reply to message #308718] Fri, 14 October 2016 08:59 Go to previous message
Kingsley Coach is currently offline  Kingsley Coach   United States
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Emery
Certainly sorry to hear about that engine ! Now I'm starting to wonder
about mine as I contemplate another run to NM for the winter.

Maybe you'll get away easy...here's hoping !!

Mike in NS


On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 10:35 AM, James Hupy wrote:

> I would wager that you will find an exhaust valve head separated from the
> stem. (2 piece valve) If that is the case, you will need a different head,
> and piston, and perhaps an engine block. Bad stuff for sure.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Or. (Scurring for home before the windstorm hits on saturday)
> On Oct 14, 2016 5:57 AM, "Larry" wrote:
>
>> I would be interested in post mortum conclusions. Very unusual to have a
>> broken valve. Before you remove the engine, why not try pulling that
> head.
>> Maybe all it needs is a head reconditioning. Would save a lot of time
> and
>> effort. Just what I think.
>> --
>> Larry
>> 78 Royale w/500 Caddy
>> Menomonie, WI.
>>
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