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New wood floor in my Royale [message #308100] Sat, 01 October 2016 16:51 Go to next message
habbyguy is currently offline  habbyguy   United States
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All, I wanted to share some photos of my recent renovations to my '78 Royale Center Kitchen. Ever since I bought it, I was a little put off by the green(ish) shag carpeting. It had been replaced once (in the 80's, I think) but was really past its expiration date. I decided to go with an engineered wood floor (leftovers from my upstairs home renovation). I used Mohawk "Fashion Gray" engineered wood flooring - basically a hand-scraped hickory veneer on a manufactured (plywood) tongue-and-groove base that's a lot more stable than a solid wood floor, which is important for the floor in an RV. I used "Level Step" underlayment that looks like 3mm neoprene with a vapor barrier, and used two layers under the indoor/outdoor carpet I used in the cockpit (for sound deadening - worked like a champ), and for trimming the dinette bases. I replaced the toilet while I was tearing things up, and in the end the coach FINALLY looks like I pictured it when I bought it (looking past the green shag carpet)

I have been beating my head bloody trying to get the photos in order and in a workable album, but no matter what I do, they read from "finished to starting". Oh well - just scroll from the end result through the job to the horrible first photo that looks like one of those abandoned coaches you see on craigslist.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/wood-floor-install-2778-royale-center-kitchen/p61456-img-20160921-1118245441.html


Mark Hickey Mesa, AZ 1978 Royale Center Kitchen
Re: New wood floor in my Royale [message #308105 is a reply to message #308100] Sat, 01 October 2016 17:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Very nice work, looks great.
Enjoy often,
Mike
Re: New wood floor in my Royale [message #308123 is a reply to message #308100] Sat, 01 October 2016 22:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Looks great! Cool

JD Lisenby- USAF Ret 1978 Royale-455 MacDash, Manny Tranny, FI-tech, 3.70 etc etc Navarre, FL
Re: New wood floor in my Royale [message #308140 is a reply to message #308100] Sun, 02 October 2016 13:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks!

For a slightly better user-friendly experience seeing the photos, I put together a web page (that took about 10% of the time I spent trying to get the gmcphotos album set up).

http://www.habcycles.com/gmcfloor.htm


Mark Hickey Mesa, AZ 1978 Royale Center Kitchen
Re: New wood floor in my Royale [message #308168 is a reply to message #308100] Sun, 02 October 2016 21:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That's beautiful Mark! That's my next to next project and it scares the hell out of me..
Did the ramp extend under the drivers side couch?
I have always wondered why not go with the teak planking with a bead of rubberized caulking around each plank for more expansion protection like on a cruise ship deck? Probably cost would be my guess.
Scott.


Scott Nutter 1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final drive, Quad bags, Dave Lenzi super duty mid axle disc brakes, tankless water heater, everything Lenzi. Alex Ferrera installed MSD Atomic EFI Houston, Texas

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Re: New wood floor in my Royale [message #308186 is a reply to message #308100] Mon, 03 October 2016 09:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Scott, the ramp / hallway platform did extend under the front edge of the couch, but the frame was bolted to the subfloor. I'm not really sure if the panel that's under the front of my couch is part of the original layout or not (my two beloved POs did a boatload of work on the coach before I got it). You can kind of see where the foam in the front of that panel (along the bottom) was compressed by being pressed up against the edge of the hallway panel.

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Re: New wood floor in my Royale [message #308189 is a reply to message #308100] Mon, 03 October 2016 11:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Looks great! Nice work !

Ray Erspamer 78 GMC Royale Center Kitchen 403, 3.70 Final Drive Holley Sniper Quadrajet EFI System, Holley Hyperspark Ignition System 414-484-9431
Re: [GMCnet] New wood floor in my Royale [message #308194 is a reply to message #308186] Mon, 03 October 2016 13:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mark, so there is no reason for that ramp?
My Royale has been massively redone but still is raised by the bathroom, I assumed it was for plumbing clearance or something

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> Scott, the ramp / hallway platform did extend under the front edge of the couch, but the frame was bolted to the subfloor. I'm not really sure if the
> panel that's under the front of my couch is part of the original layout or not (my two beloved POs did a boatload of work on the coach before I got
> it). You can kind of see where the foam in the front of that panel (along the bottom) was compressed by being pressed up against the edge of the
> hallway panel.
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> Mesa, AZ
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Re: [GMCnet] New wood floor in my Royale [message #308198 is a reply to message #308194] Mon, 03 October 2016 17:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Keith V wrote on Mon, 03 October 2016 11:58
Mark, so there is no reason for that ramp?
My Royale has been massively redone but still is raised by the bathroom, I assumed it was for plumbing clearance or something


I have to admit I'm entirely at a loss as to why the hallway and dinette area floors are raised. All it seems to do is to reduce the headroom (and right under the A/C unit, to boot). There is absolutely nothing under the panels I removed but more plywood (presumably the original floor it left the GM factory with).

The only thing I can imagine is that the dinette seat frames they were using were too short to reach, so they bumped up the floor to meet them.

Personally, I love having the extra few inches of clearance, and wouldn't change it back even if it could magically include making the new floor fit.


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Re: [GMCnet] New wood floor in my Royale [message #308200 is a reply to message #308198] Mon, 03 October 2016 18:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In the Royales, there were hanging bunks in both front and rear. Platforms
facilitate kids and short people getting up into them.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403
On Oct 3, 2016 3:58 PM, "Mark" wrote:

> Keith V wrote on Mon, 03 October 2016 11:58
>> Mark, so there is no reason for that ramp?
>> My Royale has been massively redone but still is raised by the bathroom,
> I assumed it was for plumbing clearance or something
>
>
> I have to admit I'm entirely at a loss as to why the hallway and dinette
> area floors are raised. All it seems to do is to reduce the headroom (and
> right under the A/C unit, to boot). There is absolutely nothing under the
> panels I removed but more plywood (presumably the original floor it left
> the GM factory with).
>
> The only thing I can imagine is that the dinette seat frames they were
> using were too short to reach, so they bumped up the floor to meet them.
>
> Personally, I love having the extra few inches of clearance, and wouldn't
> change it back even if it could magically include making the new floor fit.
>
> --
> Mark Hickey
> Mesa, AZ
> 1978 Royale Center Kitchen
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Re: [GMCnet] New wood floor in my Royale [message #308210 is a reply to message #308200] Mon, 03 October 2016 19:37 Go to previous message
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Also in the Royale, the dinette seat sat on top of the propane tank, and
without the platform, the dinette seat would be too high for most people.
JR Wheeler 78 Royale NC/OR

On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 4:04 PM, James Hupy wrote:

> In the Royales, there were hanging bunks in both front and rear. Platforms
> facilitate kids and short people getting up into them.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Or
> 78 GMC ROYALE 403
> On Oct 3, 2016 3:58 PM, "Mark" wrote:
>
>> Keith V wrote on Mon, 03 October 2016 11:58
>>> Mark, so there is no reason for that ramp?
>>> My Royale has been massively redone but still is raised by the
> bathroom,
>> I assumed it was for plumbing clearance or something
>>
>>
>> I have to admit I'm entirely at a loss as to why the hallway and dinette
>> area floors are raised. All it seems to do is to reduce the headroom
> (and
>> right under the A/C unit, to boot). There is absolutely nothing under
> the
>> panels I removed but more plywood (presumably the original floor it left
>> the GM factory with).
>>
>> The only thing I can imagine is that the dinette seat frames they were
>> using were too short to reach, so they bumped up the floor to meet them.
>>
>> Personally, I love having the extra few inches of clearance, and wouldn't
>> change it back even if it could magically include making the new floor
> fit.
>>
>> --
>> Mark Hickey
>> Mesa, AZ
>> 1978 Royale Center Kitchen
>>
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