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[GMCnet] Final drive oil [message #305703] Sun, 21 August 2016 11:54 Go to next message
powerjon is currently offline  powerjon   United States
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Emery,
What wt lub for the final drive do you recommend? This is a 3.21 final.

JR Wright

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Re: [GMCnet] Final drive oil [message #305709 is a reply to message #305703] Sun, 21 August 2016 12:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
emerystora is currently offline  emerystora   United States
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Hi John
I use Mobil 1 synthetic. 75w90

I used to use regular gear oil 90 weight.

Emery

> On Aug 21, 2016, at 10:54 AM, John Wright wrote:
>
> Emery,
> What wt lub for the final drive do you recommend? This is a 3.21 final.
>
> JR Wright
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Re: [GMCnet] Final drive oil [message #305722 is a reply to message #305709] Sun, 21 August 2016 14:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
powerjon is currently offline  powerjon   United States
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Thanks

John
> On Aug 21, 2016, at 1:45 PM, Emery Stora wrote:
>
> Hi John
> I use Mobil 1 synthetic. 75w90
>
> I used to use regular gear oil 90 weight.
>
> Emery
>
>> On Aug 21, 2016, at 10:54 AM, John Wright wrote:
>>
>> Emery,
>> What wt lub for the final drive do you recommend? This is a 3.21 final.
>>
>> JR Wright
>>
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Re: [GMCnet] Final drive oil [message #305726 is a reply to message #305709] Sun, 21 August 2016 15:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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John,

Me too!

Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426

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Hi John
I use Mobil 1 synthetic. 75w90

I used to use regular gear oil 90 weight.

Emery



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Regards, Rob M. (USAussie) The Pedantic Mechanic Sydney, Australia '75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428 '75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
Re: [GMCnet] Final drive oil [message #305733 is a reply to message #305726] Sun, 21 August 2016 16:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jimk is currently offline  jimk   United States
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I'm all for the synthetic lubs as they outperform the standard.
We are noticing that the older standard final drives with over 120,000
miles are beginning to to fail at the pinion bearing.
I know Manny T has seen where this issue has caused the transmission output
to be damaged.
Most people have never changed the gear lub at all.

On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Rob Mueller
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> John,
>
> Me too!
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> USAussie - Downunder
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Stora
> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 3:45 AM
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> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Final drive oil
>
> Hi John
> I use Mobil 1 synthetic. 75w90
>
> I used to use regular gear oil 90 weight.
>
> Emery
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Final drive oil [message #305737 is a reply to message #305733] Sun, 21 August 2016 16:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Jim,

When I removed the cover on the 3.07 final drive on The Blue Streak I couldn't believe what I saw - a black gelatinous mass!

Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Kanomata

I'm all for the synthetic lubs as they outperform the standard. We are noticing that the older standard final drives with over
120,000 miles are beginning to to fail at the pinion bearing. I know Manny T has seen where this issue has caused the transmission
output to be damaged. Most people have never changed the gear lub at all.

Jim


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Regards, Rob M. (USAussie) The Pedantic Mechanic Sydney, Australia '75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428 '75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
Re: [GMCnet] Final drive oil [message #305741 is a reply to message #305737] Sun, 21 August 2016 16:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jimk is currently offline  jimk   United States
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Rob,
Almost all the cores we get back are in sad condition.
Most have not even added fluid, muchless changed it during the lifetime.

On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Rob Mueller
wrote:

> Jim,
>
> When I removed the cover on the 3.07 final drive on The Blue Streak I
> couldn't believe what I saw - a black gelatinous mass!
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> USAussie - Downunder
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Kanomata
>
> I'm all for the synthetic lubs as they outperform the standard. We are
> noticing that the older standard final drives with over
> 120,000 miles are beginning to to fail at the pinion bearing. I know Manny
> T has seen where this issue has caused the transmission
> output to be damaged. Most people have never changed the gear lub at all.
>
> Jim
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Final drive oil [message #305773 is a reply to message #305741] Sun, 21 August 2016 21:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Adrien G. is currently offline  Adrien G.   United States
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Well I think that the GM engineer didn't think it was needed to change the FD oil.
Or the life of the coach wouldn't be that long as to need change.
It's messy with no drain plug. Removing the cover, cleaning the gasket, cramp quarters to work.
On all my vehicles I have added a drain plug to trans, diff (FD) on my first change, then it's a piece of cake.
Oils do need to be changed occasionally.






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Re: [GMCnet] Final drive oil [message #305801 is a reply to message #305773] Mon, 22 August 2016 09:52 Go to previous message
powerjon is currently offline  powerjon   United States
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Actually they did have a recommendation on Fluid changes for the coaches. If you go to the MM X-7525 on page 0-6 Lub and gen maint chart, also page 0-7, para 8 the recommendation are listed. With the newer sythnetic base lubs the intervals can be extended somewhat longer, but not forever. The drain plug was a missed chance to make it easier. Not hard just messy, I have had the Ragusa covers on all the coaches that I have owned and they make it much easier to do the fluid changes.

JR Wright
78 Buskirk Stretch
75 Avion
Michigan


> On Aug 21, 2016, at 10:33 PM, Adrien Genesoto wrote:
>
> Well I think that the GM engineer didn't think it was needed to change the FD oil.
> Or the life of the coach wouldn't be that long as to need change.
> It's messy with no drain plug. Removing the cover, cleaning the gasket, cramp quarters to work.
> On all my vehicles I have added a drain plug to trans, diff (FD) on my first change, then it's a piece of cake.
> Oils do need to be changed occasionally.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> ”When we avoid the mistakes we might have made, we sometimes make the mistakes that we might have avoided.”
>
>
>
> Adrien & Jenny Genesoto
> 75 Glenbrook 26-3
> Yuba City,Ca. Text 530-nine-3-three-3-nine-nine-6


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