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Master Cylinder nfusion [message #305252] Wed, 10 August 2016 16:25 Go to next message
pzerkel is currently offline  pzerkel   United States
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I have a 1978 Eleganza II.

About 3 years ago I replaced the master cylinder with one purchased from Applied. Now I appear to be losing fluid in the front reservoir (which I *thought* was the rear brakes).

Looking at some of the previous threads (and the GMCMI parts interchange book) it appears the 1978 MC was "different".

But Applied only shows one MC listed for 73-78 on their website.

Some of the previous threads here indicate that the 78 had the ports switched from previous years.

I am trying to determine if I may have my front/rear swapped. (and maybe my front reservoir is really my front brakes). Can I trace lines somehow to figure this out?


Paul Zerkel
'78 Eleganza II
Salisbury IL (near Springfield)
Re: Master Cylinder nfusion [message #305253 is a reply to message #305252] Wed, 10 August 2016 16:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lqqkatjon is currently offline  lqqkatjon   United States
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open up a brake bleeder. give the brakes a couple pumps and then look at the master cylinder. Should show you exactly what reservoir is feeding the brake you are bleeding. no need to trace out lines that way.

front brakes are usually pretty rare to have leak problems, and you will usually see the fluid easily. the rear wheel cylinders will leak and you will never know it unless you take the drums off. So I am guessing you probably have a rear brake leak, that would be the front reservoir on the master.



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Re: [GMCnet] Master Cylinder nfusion [message #305254 is a reply to message #305252] Wed, 10 August 2016 18:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Paul,

There are two sizes of tubing connecting to the M/C; the larger line (1/4" OD) feeds the rear brakes; follow it down to the
combination valve in the driver side wheel well and which line goes where will be obvious.

Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie - Downunder
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426

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Subject: [GMCnet] Master Cylinder nfusion

I have a 1978 Eleganza II.

About 3 years ago I replaced the master cylinder with one purchased from Applied. Now I appear to be losing fluid in the front
reservoir (which I
*thought* was the rear brakes).

Looking at some of the previous threads (and the GMCMI parts interchange book) it appears the 1978 MC was "different".

But Applied only shows one MC listed for 73-78 on their website.

Some of the previous threads here indicate that the 78 had the ports switched from previous years.

I am trying to determine if I may have my front/rear swapped. (and maybe my front reservoir is really my front brakes). Can I trace
lines somehow to
figure this out?
--
Paul Zerkel
'78 Eleganza II
Salisbury IL (near Springfield)

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Re: [GMCnet] Master Cylinder nfusion [message #305302 is a reply to message #305254] Thu, 11 August 2016 20:47 Go to previous message
jimk is currently offline  jimk   United States
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The Master cylinder should last longer than that.
Call Nick or Gary at our shop and have them send a replacement N/C and
freight free to you.
Should you not be able to wait, we will credit you the for what you paid.
All the ones are made in RedChina and lack quality.Since I look like one,
It makes me blush.
Those that know me well, know I don't blush easily.

On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 1:01 AM, Rob Mueller
wrote:

> Paul,
>
> There are two sizes of tubing connecting to the M/C; the larger line (1/4"
> OD) feeds the rear brakes; follow it down to the
> combination valve in the driver side wheel well and which line goes where
> will be obvious.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> USAussie - Downunder
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Paul
> Zerkel
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 7:25 AM
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: [GMCnet] Master Cylinder nfusion
>
> I have a 1978 Eleganza II.
>
> About 3 years ago I replaced the master cylinder with one purchased from
> Applied. Now I appear to be losing fluid in the front
> reservoir (which I
> *thought* was the rear brakes).
>
> Looking at some of the previous threads (and the GMCMI parts interchange
> book) it appears the 1978 MC was "different".
>
> But Applied only shows one MC listed for 73-78 on their website.
>
> Some of the previous threads here indicate that the 78 had the ports
> switched from previous years.
>
> I am trying to determine if I may have my front/rear swapped. (and maybe
> my front reservoir is really my front brakes). Can I trace
> lines somehow to
> figure this out?
> --
> Paul Zerkel
> '78 Eleganza II
> Salisbury IL (near Springfield)
>
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