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| Re: [GMCnet] Pork chop [message #350346 is a reply to message #305095] |
Tue, 26 November 2019 19:18   |
Bruce Hart
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Rich, my first try on getting torsion bars off the arm was the same
experience that you are having. Somehow I was able to get a little
movement and than I would work the bar back and forth and every time would
get a little more movement until it finally came all the way out.
On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 6:14 PM Bruce Hart wrote:
> Finally got the extended threaded torsion bolt. Miscommunication, post
> office error, but got the bolt on Saturday the 23.
> For what ever reason I went ahead and maxed out the threads, went for a
> cruise over several dips and remeasured the ride height
> Front left 13 1/8
> Front right 13 3/16
> Rear left 11 11/16
> Rear right 11 5/8
>
> Rear ride height was obtained by air suspension system.
>
> Will need to test run some more before coach goes back to owner in
> Colorado Springs, Co.
>
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 8:27 PM James Hupy via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Not an exact result. The threads on the adjustment bolt add up to that,
>> but
>> the old bugaboo "stiction" rears its ugly head. But, it's a good place to
>> start.
>> Jim Hupy
>> Salem, Oregon
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019, 7:20 PM Charles Boyd via Gmclist > gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Sir, 6 turns = ~1" raise.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bruce Hart wrote on Wed, 20 November 2019 19:34
>>>> That was the next item Jim K. suggested when I called and talked to
>> him.
>>>> I need 1 1/8 " on the left side and 1" on the right side to be in
>> spec.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 10:27 AM Russell Keith via Gmclist >>> [em ail]gmclist@list.gmcnet.org[/email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Bruce,
>>>> > Would the adjustable pork chop help with your situation?
>>>> >
>>>> > http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/1118
>>>> >
>>>> > Russell
>>>> > --
>>>> > Russell Keith,
>>>> > 1978 E2 "Harry" 403 (still carbureted), Danny Dunn Tranny, Thorley,
>>> Stock
>>>> > Brakes w/Remote Vacuum Brake Booster, Quad Bags, Dakota Digital
>> Dash,
>>> 6.5 kW
>>>> > Onan, Dunedin, Florida
>>>> >
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Bruce Hart
>>>> 1976 Palm Beach
>>>> Milliken, Co
>>>> GMC=Got More Class
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>>>
>>> --
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>>> 76 Crestmont
>>> East Tennessee
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> 1976 Palm Beach
> Milliken, Co
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1976 Palm Beach
1977 28' Kingsley
La Grange, Wyoming
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| Re: [GMCnet] Pork chop [message #350348 is a reply to message #350346] |
Tue, 26 November 2019 19:50 |
sgltrac
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Vibrate impact them apart.
Sully
Bellevue wa
On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 5:19 PM Bruce Hart via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> Rich, my first try on getting torsion bars off the arm was the same
> experience that you are having. Somehow I was able to get a little
> movement and than I would work the bar back and forth and every time would
> get a little more movement until it finally came all the way out.
>
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 6:14 PM Bruce Hart wrote:
>
>> Finally got the extended threaded torsion bolt. Miscommunication, post
>> office error, but got the bolt on Saturday the 23.
>> For what ever reason I went ahead and maxed out the threads, went for a
>> cruise over several dips and remeasured the ride height
>> Front left 13 1/8
>> Front right 13 3/16
>> Rear left 11 11/16
>> Rear right 11 5/8
>>
>> Rear ride height was obtained by air suspension system.
>>
>> Will need to test run some more before coach goes back to owner in
>> Colorado Springs, Co.
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 8:27 PM James Hupy via Gmclist > gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Not an exact result. The threads on the adjustment bolt add up to that,
>>> but
>>> the old bugaboo "stiction" rears its ugly head. But, it's a good place
> to
>>> start.
>>> Jim Hupy
>>> Salem, Oregon
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019, 7:20 PM Charles Boyd via Gmclist >> gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sir, 6 turns = ~1" raise.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bruce Hart wrote on Wed, 20 November 2019 19:34
>>>> > That was the next item Jim K. suggested when I called and talked to
>>> him.
>>>> > I need 1 1/8 " on the left side and 1" on the right side to be in
>>> spec.
>>>> >
>>>> > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 10:27 AM Russell Keith via Gmclist >>> > [em ail]gmclist@list.gmcnet.org[/email]> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > Bruce,
>>>> > > Would the adjustable pork chop help with your situation?
>>>> > >
>>>> > > http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/1118
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Russell
>>>> > > --
>>>> > > Russell Keith,
>>>> > > 1978 E2 "Harry" 403 (still carbureted), Danny Dunn Tranny,
> Thorley,
>>>> Stock
>>>> > > Brakes w/Remote Vacuum Brake Booster, Quad Bags, Dakota Digital
>>> Dash,
>>>> 6.5 kW
>>>> > > Onan, Dunedin, Florida
>>>> > >
>>>> > > _______________________________________________
>>>> > > GMCnet mailing list
>>>> > > Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>>>> > > http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Bruce Hart
>>>> > 1976 Palm Beach
>>>> > Milliken, Co
>>>> > GMC=Got More Class
>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>> > GMCnet mailing list
>>>> > Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>>>> > http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> C. Boyd
>>>> 76 Crestmont
>>>> East Tennessee
>>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Bruce Hart
>> 1976 Palm Beach
>> Milliken, Co
>> GMC=Got More Class
>>
>>
>
> --
> Bruce Hart
> 1976 Palm Beach
> Milliken, Co
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77 Royale basket case.
Future motorhome land speed record holder(bucket list)
Seattle, Wa.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Pork chop [message #350351 is a reply to message #350348] |
Wed, 27 November 2019 00:38 |
James Hupy
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The torsion bars have likely been there for 40 years. The old soap based
grease, is now thoroughly mixed with road grime, and very hard and thick.
Use something to dissolve the crud in there. Your choice of solvents. I use
red can brake kleen. But other stuff will work as well. Spray the hell out
of it, and let it sit, then wiggle the heck out of it. Get serious with
wrestling with it. It will come apart. JWID.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon
On Tue, Nov 26, 2019, 5:51 PM Todd Sullivan via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> Vibrate impact them apart.
>
> Sully
> Bellevue wa
>
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 5:19 PM Bruce Hart via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Rich, my first try on getting torsion bars off the arm was the same
>> experience that you are having. Somehow I was able to get a little
>> movement and than I would work the bar back and forth and every time
> would
>> get a little more movement until it finally came all the way out.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 6:14 PM Bruce Hart wrote:
>>
>>> Finally got the extended threaded torsion bolt. Miscommunication, post
>>> office error, but got the bolt on Saturday the 23.
>>> For what ever reason I went ahead and maxed out the threads, went for a
>>> cruise over several dips and remeasured the ride height
>>> Front left 13 1/8
>>> Front right 13 3/16
>>> Rear left 11 11/16
>>> Rear right 11 5/8
>>>
>>> Rear ride height was obtained by air suspension system.
>>>
>>> Will need to test run some more before coach goes back to owner in
>>> Colorado Springs, Co.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 8:27 PM James Hupy via Gmclist >> gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Not an exact result. The threads on the adjustment bolt add up to
> that,
>>>> but
>>>> the old bugaboo "stiction" rears its ugly head. But, it's a good place
>> to
>>>> start.
>>>> Jim Hupy
>>>> Salem, Oregon
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019, 7:20 PM Charles Boyd via Gmclist >>> gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Sir, 6 turns = ~1" raise.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Bruce Hart wrote on Wed, 20 November 2019 19:34
>>>> > > That was the next item Jim K. suggested when I called and talked
> to
>>>> him.
>>>> > > I need 1 1/8 " on the left side and 1" on the right side to be in
>>>> spec.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 10:27 AM Russell Keith via Gmclist >>> > > [em ail]gmclist@list.gmcnet.org[/email]> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > > Bruce,
>>>> > > > Would the adjustable pork chop help with your situation?
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/1118
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Russell
>>>> > > > --
>>>> > > > Russell Keith,
>>>> > > > 1978 E2 "Harry" 403 (still carbureted), Danny Dunn Tranny,
>> Thorley,
>>>> > Stock
>>>> > > > Brakes w/Remote Vacuum Brake Booster, Quad Bags, Dakota Digital
>>>> Dash,
>>>> > 6.5 kW
>>>> > > > Onan, Dunedin, Florida
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > _______________________________________________
>>>> > > > GMCnet mailing list
>>>> > > > Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>>>> > > >
> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
>>>> > > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > --
>>>> > > Bruce Hart
>>>> > > 1976 Palm Beach
>>>> > > Milliken, Co
>>>> > > GMC=Got More Class
>>>> > > _______________________________________________
>>>> > > GMCnet mailing list
>>>> > > Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>>>> > > http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > C. Boyd
>>>> > 76 Crestmont
>>>> > East Tennessee
>>>> >
>>>> > _______________________________________________
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bruce Hart
>>> 1976 Palm Beach
>>> Milliken, Co
>>> GMC=Got More Class
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Bruce Hart
>> 1976 Palm Beach
>> Milliken, Co
>> GMC=Got More Class
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| Re: [GMCnet] Pork chop [message #350354 is a reply to message #350351] |
Wed, 27 November 2019 05:22 |
Rich Kinas
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In the one corner, is the crusted old torsion bar, looking determined not
to be beaten. In the other corner is his challenger, tenacious with a "not
going to beat me" attitude, that and a nice cup of hot coffee! I shall
squirt the heck out of them and then ring the fight bell. I'll let you know
how it ends up.....
Rich
On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 1:35 AM James Hupy via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> The torsion bars have likely been there for 40 years. The old soap based
> grease, is now thoroughly mixed with road grime, and very hard and thick.
> Use something to dissolve the crud in there. Your choice of solvents. I use
> red can brake kleen. But other stuff will work as well. Spray the hell out
> of it, and let it sit, then wiggle the heck out of it. Get serious with
> wrestling with it. It will come apart. JWID.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Oregon
>
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019, 5:51 PM Todd Sullivan via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Vibrate impact them apart.
>>
>> Sully
>> Bellevue wa
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 5:19 PM Bruce Hart via Gmclist > gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Rich, my first try on getting torsion bars off the arm was the same
>>> experience that you are having. Somehow I was able to get a little
>>> movement and than I would work the bar back and forth and every time
>> would
>>> get a little more movement until it finally came all the way out.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 6:14 PM Bruce Hart wrote:
>>>
>>>> Finally got the extended threaded torsion bolt. Miscommunication,
> post
>>>> office error, but got the bolt on Saturday the 23.
>>>> For what ever reason I went ahead and maxed out the threads, went
> for a
>>>> cruise over several dips and remeasured the ride height
>>>> Front left 13 1/8
>>>> Front right 13 3/16
>>>> Rear left 11 11/16
>>>> Rear right 11 5/8
>>>>
>>>> Rear ride height was obtained by air suspension system.
>>>>
>>>> Will need to test run some more before coach goes back to owner in
>>>> Colorado Springs, Co.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 8:27 PM James Hupy via Gmclist >>> gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Not an exact result. The threads on the adjustment bolt add up to
>> that,
>>>> > but
>>>> > the old bugaboo "stiction" rears its ugly head. But, it's a good
> place
>>> to
>>>> > start.
>>>> > Jim Hupy
>>>> > Salem, Oregon
>>>> >
>>>> > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019, 7:20 PM Charles Boyd via Gmclist >>> > gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > Sir, 6 turns = ~1" raise.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Bruce Hart wrote on Wed, 20 November 2019 19:34
>>>> > > > That was the next item Jim K. suggested when I called and talked
>> to
>>>> > him.
>>>> > > > I need 1 1/8 " on the left side and 1" on the right side to be
> in
>>>> > spec.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 10:27 AM Russell Keith via Gmclist >>> > > > [em ail]gmclist@list.gmcnet.org[/email]> wrote:
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > > Bruce,
>>>> > > > > Would the adjustable pork chop help with your situation?
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/1118
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > Russell
>>>> > > > > --
>>>> > > > > Russell Keith,
>>>> > > > > 1978 E2 "Harry" 403 (still carbureted), Danny Dunn Tranny,
>>> Thorley,
>>>> > > Stock
>>>> > > > > Brakes w/Remote Vacuum Brake Booster, Quad Bags, Dakota
> Digital
>>>> > Dash,
>>>> > > 6.5 kW
>>>> > > > > Onan, Dunedin, Florida
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > _______________________________________________
>>>> > > > > GMCnet mailing list
>>>> > > > > Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>>>> > > > >
>> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > --
>>>> > > > Bruce Hart
>>>> > > > 1976 Palm Beach
>>>> > > > Milliken, Co
>>>> > > > GMC=Got More Class
>>>> > > > _______________________________________________
>>>> > > > GMCnet mailing list
>>>> > > > Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>>>> > > > http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > --
>>>> > > C. Boyd
>>>> > > 76 Crestmont
>>>> > > East Tennessee
>>>> > >
>>>> > > _______________________________________________
>>>> > > GMCnet mailing list
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>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Bruce Hart
>>>> 1976 Palm Beach
>>>> Milliken, Co
>>>> GMC=Got More Class
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bruce Hart
>>> 1976 Palm Beach
>>> Milliken, Co
>>> GMC=Got More Class
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Rich Kinas
1976 Elaganza II
Orlando, FL
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| Re: [GMCnet] Pork chop [message #350357 is a reply to message #350354] |
Wed, 27 November 2019 10:50 |
James Hupy
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Gratituitous use of a Manny T. "Precision Adjustment Device", better known
as a big hammer, is sometimes required. (Grin)
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon
On Wed, Nov 27, 2019, 3:23 AM Rich Kinas via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> In the one corner, is the crusted old torsion bar, looking determined not
> to be beaten. In the other corner is his challenger, tenacious with a "not
> going to beat me" attitude, that and a nice cup of hot coffee! I shall
> squirt the heck out of them and then ring the fight bell. I'll let you know
> how it ends up.....
>
> Rich
>
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 1:35 AM James Hupy via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> The torsion bars have likely been there for 40 years. The old soap based
>> grease, is now thoroughly mixed with road grime, and very hard and thick.
>> Use something to dissolve the crud in there. Your choice of solvents. I
> use
>> red can brake kleen. But other stuff will work as well. Spray the hell
> out
>> of it, and let it sit, then wiggle the heck out of it. Get serious with
>> wrestling with it. It will come apart. JWID.
>> Jim Hupy
>> Salem, Oregon
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019, 5:51 PM Todd Sullivan via Gmclist > gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Vibrate impact them apart.
>>>
>>> Sully
>>> Bellevue wa
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 5:19 PM Bruce Hart via Gmclist >> gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Rich, my first try on getting torsion bars off the arm was the same
>>>> experience that you are having. Somehow I was able to get a little
>>>> movement and than I would work the bar back and forth and every time
>>> would
>>>> get a little more movement until it finally came all the way out.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 6:14 PM Bruce Hart
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Finally got the extended threaded torsion bolt. Miscommunication,
>> post
>>>> > office error, but got the bolt on Saturday the 23.
>>>> > For what ever reason I went ahead and maxed out the threads, went
>> for a
>>>> > cruise over several dips and remeasured the ride height
>>>> > Front left 13 1/8
>>>> > Front right 13 3/16
>>>> > Rear left 11 11/16
>>>> > Rear right 11 5/8
>>>> >
>>>> > Rear ride height was obtained by air suspension system.
>>>> >
>>>> > Will need to test run some more before coach goes back to owner in
>>>> > Colorado Springs, Co.
>>>> >
>>>> > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 8:27 PM James Hupy via Gmclist >>> > gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Not an exact result. The threads on the adjustment bolt add up to
>>> that,
>>>> >> but
>>>> >> the old bugaboo "stiction" rears its ugly head. But, it's a good
>> place
>>>> to
>>>> >> start.
>>>> >> Jim Hupy
>>>> >> Salem, Oregon
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019, 7:20 PM Charles Boyd via Gmclist >>> >> gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> > Sir, 6 turns = ~1" raise.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Bruce Hart wrote on Wed, 20 November 2019 19:34
>>>> >> > > That was the next item Jim K. suggested when I called and
> talked
>>> to
>>>> >> him.
>>>> >> > > I need 1 1/8 " on the left side and 1" on the right side to be
>> in
>>>> >> spec.
>>>> >> > >
>>>> >> > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 10:27 AM Russell Keith via Gmclist >>> >> > > [em ail]gmclist@list.gmcnet.org[/email]> wrote:
>>>> >> > >
>>>> >> > > > Bruce,
>>>> >> > > > Would the adjustable pork chop help with your situation?
>>>> >> > > >
>>>> >> > > > http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/1118
>>>> >> > > >
>>>> >> > > > Russell
>>>> >> > > > --
>>>> >> > > > Russell Keith,
>>>> >> > > > 1978 E2 "Harry" 403 (still carbureted), Danny Dunn Tranny,
>>>> Thorley,
>>>> >> > Stock
>>>> >> > > > Brakes w/Remote Vacuum Brake Booster, Quad Bags, Dakota
>> Digital
>>>> >> Dash,
>>>> >> > 6.5 kW
>>>> >> > > > Onan, Dunedin, Florida
>>>> >> > > >
>>>> >> > > > _______________________________________________
>>>> >> > > > GMCnet mailing list
>>>> >> > > > Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>>>> >> > > >
>>> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
>>>> >> > > >
>>>> >> > >
>>>> >> > >
>>>> >> > > --
>>>> >> > > Bruce Hart
>>>> >> > > 1976 Palm Beach
>>>> >> > > Milliken, Co
>>>> >> > > GMC=Got More Class
>>>> >> > > _______________________________________________
>>>> >> > > GMCnet mailing list
>>>> >> > > Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>>>> >> > >
> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > --
>>>> >> > C. Boyd
>>>> >> > 76 Crestmont
>>>> >> > East Tennessee
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > _______________________________________________
>>>> >> > GMCnet mailing list
>>>> >> > Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
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>>>> >> >
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>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Bruce Hart
>>>> > 1976 Palm Beach
>>>> > Milliken, Co
>>>> > GMC=Got More Class
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> 1976 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Pork Chop - How many turns, for up or down [message #350364 is a reply to message #350360] |
Wed, 27 November 2019 16:41 |
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And I triumphed! Just connected my slide hammer thorough the front frame to a-arm mount and went at it. It took about 30 good wacks but it eventually yielded. Just wrestled the bushings out of the lower a-arms. Still working on the top a-arm bushings. Can’t get the steel bushing/caps off the bushings. Will start sand blasting this weekend. Lots of excitement.
Rich
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> On Nov 27, 2019, at 1:53 PM, James Hupy via Gmclist wrote:
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> Ken, are you sure that you don't mean the Control Arm End of the torsion
> bar socket?
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Oregon
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> On Wed, Nov 27, 2019, 9:59 AM Ken Burton via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
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>> Soak the pork chop end with Kroil for a couple of days.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Pork Chop - How many turns, for up or down [message #350365 is a reply to message #350360] |
Wed, 27 November 2019 17:11 |
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I said the pork chop end because I thought he said in a previous posting that the bar was wiggling in the LCA socket. I thought the thing was stuck in the pork chop end. Soak them both if necessary.
I'm sorry if I misunderstood.
If it is the pork chop that is stuck I have another idea. How about a small to medium 2 jaw gear puller. Hook the arms to the frame and push through the hole using a small socket for the center screw to supply force on the end of the torsion bar.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Pork Chop - How many turns, for up or down [message #350368 is a reply to message #350364] |
Wed, 27 November 2019 17:33 |
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Richard,
Make sure you support the ears of the upper arms when pressing in the new
bushings as they bend easily.
Sully
Bellevue wa.
On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 2:42 PM Richard Kinas via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> And I triumphed! Just connected my slide hammer thorough the front frame
> to a-arm mount and went at it. It took about 30 good wacks but it
> eventually yielded. Just wrestled the bushings out of the lower a-arms.
> Still working on the top a-arm bushings. Can’t get the steel bushing/caps
> off the bushings. Will start sand blasting this weekend. Lots of excitement.
>
> Rich
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 27, 2019, at 1:53 PM, James Hupy via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Ken, are you sure that you don't mean the Control Arm End of the torsion
>> bar socket?
>> Jim Hupy
>> Salem, Oregon
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 27, 2019, 9:59 AM Ken Burton via Gmclist > gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
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>>> Soak the pork chop end with Kroil for a couple of days.
>>> --
>>> Ken Burton - N9KB
>>> 76 Palm Beach
>>> Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Pork Chop - How many turns, for up or down [message #350371 is a reply to message #350368] |
Wed, 27 November 2019 19:36 |
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I use a hack saw and cut the steel part of the bushing in half.
On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 4:34 PM Todd Sullivan via Gmclist <
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> Richard,
>
> Make sure you support the ears of the upper arms when pressing in the new
> bushings as they bend easily.
>
> Sully
> Bellevue wa.
>
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 2:42 PM Richard Kinas via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> And I triumphed! Just connected my slide hammer thorough the front frame
>> to a-arm mount and went at it. It took about 30 good wacks but it
>> eventually yielded. Just wrestled the bushings out of the lower a-arms.
>> Still working on the top a-arm bushings. Can’t get the steel bushing/caps
>> off the bushings. Will start sand blasting this weekend. Lots of
> excitement.
>>
>> Rich
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Nov 27, 2019, at 1:53 PM, James Hupy via Gmclist > gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ken, are you sure that you don't mean the Control Arm End of the
> torsion
>>> bar socket?
>>> Jim Hupy
>>> Salem, Oregon
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 27, 2019, 9:59 AM Ken Burton via Gmclist >> gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Soak the pork chop end with Kroil for a couple of days.
>>>> --
>>>> Ken Burton - N9KB
>>>> 76 Palm Beach
>>>> Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Pork Chop - How many turns, for up or down [message #350405 is a reply to message #350368] |
Fri, 29 November 2019 05:43 |
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I would suggest using Urethane bushings from Energy Suspension and probably Jim K. as he seems to have everything GMC.
It is much easier and you do not have to press out the old steel using those special spacers. Also the bushing will last longer than the coach will. I used a vice to easily press the new urethane ones in. You can almost do them by hand without a vice.
I sure make the job a lot easier.
Ken Burton - N9KB
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| Re: [GMCnet] Pork Chop - How many turns, for up or down [message #350408 is a reply to message #350405] |
Fri, 29 November 2019 07:09 |
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I had already decided to use the polyurethane for a lot of reasons. My
current problem is that the inner sleeve and end washers on the top a-arm
are not wanting to come out, and I cant really seem to figure out how to go
about this. I'm planning on trying some things this morning, dont know if
any of them will work. If anyone has any ideas please forward them. I'll be
checking my mail later. Thanks one and all and Happy Thanksgiving!
Rich
On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 6:44 AM Ken Burton via Gmclist <
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> I would suggest using Urethane bushings from Energy Suspension and
> probably Jim K. as he seems to have everything GMC.
>
> It is much easier and you do not have to press out the old steel using
> those special spacers. Also the bushing will last longer than the coach
> will.
> I used a vice to easily press the new urethane ones in. You can almost
> do them by hand without a vice.
>
> I sure make the job a lot easier.
> --
> Ken Burton - N9KB
> 76 Palm Beach
> Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Pork Chop - How many turns, for up or down [message #350413 is a reply to message #350408] |
Fri, 29 November 2019 19:36 |
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Rich,
I am a little confused as to where you are in the removal process. Have you got the A-frame(s) removed from the vehicle at this point?
If so then you are trying to remove the rubber and inner sleeve from the outer sleeve. Heat the the outer sleeve (propane will do) to get the rubber to release from the outer sleeve. After that simply press, with a vice, the rubber part out of the outer sleeve. Then clean up the inside of the outer sleeve and press in the new urethane bushings. This is all for memory and I did this at least 10 years ago.
I added an additional step. I bead blasted the entire A-frame(s) and repainted them except inside the sleeves. I believe I brush painted them with Black Rustoleum. I may have spray painted them. It has been long enough ago that I really do not remember, other than I painted the entire a-frames prior to installing the new urethane bushings.
Ken Burton - N9KB
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Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Pork Chop - How many turns, for up or down [message #350423 is a reply to message #350413] |
Sun, 01 December 2019 05:27 |
Rich Kinas
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I agree that I need to get better at my descriptions...So the A-arms are
off the coach, and i just got the bushings out of the top A-arm. After
looking as some internet pics and a strong flashlight I could see that
there was a small lip on the external washers of these bushing, so i just
inserted a piece of all thread 1/2 I think and tapped on these lips
(tap...tap...tap...wack) and they popped right apart. (I inserted the all
thread from one side of the bushing and tapped on the lip of the other
bushing. Once all of these washers were off I just used the 12inch or so
piece of all-thread rod with a large receiving socket on the outside of the
A-arm (for the bushing to push into) and a smaller socket to push on the
bushing so the assembly was (from outside to inside)
Nut-Nut-washer-socket-bushing-socket-washer-nut or in graphical terms
--[]-|-[pushing socket]-[bushing]-[receiving socket]-|-[]-[]----. Two nuts
back to back so you could jam (tighten them toward each other) them to hold
the all-thread steady when needed. Receiving socket was bigger than bushing
and pushing socket was just smaller than bushing. Once it was all together
I jamed the two nuts together and then just held the inner jamed nut with
an openend wrench and then used another openend wrench to thighten the bolt
on the pushing socket and the bushing pushed right out. Did this on all
bushings, no need for a press, and you keep a much better feel for whats
going on during hte process so you can stop and adjust as necessary. Maybe
this will help sombody. Anyway today is sand blasting and painting day. Fun
Stuff...
Rich
On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 8:37 PM Ken Burton via Gmclist <
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> Rich,
>
> I am a little confused as to where you are in the removal process. Have
> you got the A-frame(s) removed from the vehicle at this point?
>
> If so then you are trying to remove the rubber and inner sleeve from the
> outer sleeve. Heat the the outer sleeve (propane will do) to get the
> rubber
> to release from the outer sleeve. After that simply press, with a vice,
> the rubber part out of the outer sleeve. Then clean up the inside of the
> outer sleeve and press in the new urethane bushings. This is all for
> memory and I did this at least 10 years ago.
>
> I added an additional step. I bead blasted the entire A-frame(s) and
> repainted them except inside the sleeves. I believe I brush painted them
> with
> Black Rustoleum. I may have spray painted them. It has been long enough
> ago that I really do not remember, other than I painted the entire a-frames
> prior to installing the new urethane bushings.
> --
> Ken Burton - N9KB
> 76 Palm Beach
> Hebron, Indiana
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Pork Chop - How many turns, for up or down [message #350424 is a reply to message #350423] |
Sun, 01 December 2019 07:29 |
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It probably is not your descriptions. I just wanted to make sure we were talking about the same thing. Many times I misunderstand exactly what someone is doing and then I post information that does not apply to the problem at hand. The important thing is you got it apart and you are on your way.
At the moment I have my trans, final drive, and one half shaft in the back of my PU truck. I am headed to Indy this afternoon with them. Tomorrow, with the help of another GMCer, I will learn how to fix all three of these. I also have two gas tanks from someone else's GMC to deliver to a stripper. All of this is stuff I have never done before but with their help, I hopefully will learn and fix them.
Good Luck on your project.
Ken B.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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