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| Coachmen Centre Kitchen Electric and Plumbing Schematics [message #303429] |
Mon, 11 July 2016 16:57  |
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JBO
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Howdy GMCers,
Does anyone have Coachmen Centre Kitchen Electric and Plumbing Schematics? If so, I would be extremely grateful if you would share them with me. I'm trying to figure out how the plumbing lines are routed. Most notable on the left side. I have a slow leak somewhere. It does not leak in the coach. It leaks into the hollow rocker panel and then travels out from there. It's very bizarre.
What I know so far:
It is not the water heater.
It is not any of the 2 drain cocks beside the water heater (or the 2 on the right side).
It is completely dry inside the coach.
Perhaps it is the a fitting on a line the heads into the shower stall (now serving duty as a storage closet)?
So, If anyone has the CK Schematic I'd be a happy camper!
If any other CK owners have experience this situation and have any advice...please share!
Cheers, Jim
Jim Owens,
78 Royale,
Out skirts of Kitchener, Ontario
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| Re: [GMCnet] Coachmen Centre Kitchen Electric and Plumbing Schematics [message #303459 is a reply to message #303431] |
Tue, 12 July 2016 10:34  |
jimk
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Did not know anyone made a schematic for te Coachman Royal.
Love to receive a copy.
I can give you store credit for $25 for the Info and handling.
On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Jim wrote:
> Yes I know, I have all those schematics. They are indeed very handy. I'm
> sending out a call for the 78 Royale Center Kitchen model...
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> Anyone?
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| Re: [GMCnet] Coachmen Centre Kitchen Electric and Plumbing Schematics [message #303461 is a reply to message #303459] |
Tue, 12 July 2016 10:47 |
emerystora
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Jim
I scanned it several years ago. You can download it from the GMCMI.com site.
Click on the tab The GMC Motorhome, then Technical Information, then Support Materials, then electrical.
It is the first item there.
Here is a direct link:
http://www.gmcmi.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/77-Coachmen-26RB-Electrical-Plumbing-Drawings-copy.pdf
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO
> On Jul 12, 2016, at 9:34 AM, Jim Kanomata wrote:
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> Did not know anyone made a schematic for te Coachman Royal.
> Love to receive a copy.
> I can give you store credit for $25 for the Info and handling.
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> On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Jim wrote:
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>> Yes I know, I have all those schematics. They are indeed very handy. I'm
>> sending out a call for the 78 Royale Center Kitchen model...
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>> Anyone?
>> --
>> Jim Owens,
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>> 78 Royale,
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>> Out skirts of Kitchener, Ontario
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| Re: Coachmen Centre Kitchen Electric and Plumbing Schematics [message #303464 is a reply to message #303429] |
Tue, 12 July 2016 11:57 |
77Royale
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Those drawings were very very handy when I was redoing the interior of my Royale and learning about the coach when I first bought it. Laminated the pages, 3 hole punched and put in a binder in the coach along with the MMs.
77 Royale, Rear Dry Bath. 403, 3.55 Final Drive, Lenzi goodies, Patterson carb and dizzy.
Mid Michigan
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| Re: [GMCnet] Coachmen Centre Kitchen Electric and Plumbing Schematics [message #303469 is a reply to message #303461] |
Tue, 12 July 2016 14:21 |
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JShot
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Emery,
Those scans are great. The first few drawings of the electrical boxes, etc. are pretty accurate. But the rest of the drawings showing the wire runs, etc. are not for the center kitchen model, as we have, but are for the RB - rear bath model.
I have scoured every place I know to find anything relating to the CK model, and have actually gone to the Coachmen factory and asked them about the old drawings, the center kitchen in particular. They said that all of the plans and prints BEFORE 2000 were destroyed some time ago.
Having just completed a total gutting and restoration of the interior of our center kitchen coach, I can assure you that the wiring layout is totally different for the CK model. Ask me how....
John
John Shotwell
Ridgeville Corners, OH
78 Royale Center Kitchen
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| Re: [GMCnet] Coachmen Centre Kitchen Electric and Plumbing Schematics [message #303474 is a reply to message #303469] |
Tue, 12 July 2016 15:12 |
emerystora
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John
I am aware that much of the file pertains to just the rear bath model but some applies to all models from Coachmen.
That is the only one that I have been able to find over the years.
Emery Stora
> On Jul 12, 2016, at 1:21 PM, John Shotwell wrote:
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> Emery,
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> Those scans are great. The first few drawings of the electrical boxes, etc. are pretty accurate. But the rest of the drawings showing the wire runs,
> etc. are not for the center kitchen model, as we have, but are for the RB - rear bath model.
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> I have scoured every place I know to find anything relating to the CK model, and have actually gone to the Coachmen factory and asked them about the
> old drawings, the center kitchen in particular. They said that all of the plans and prints BEFORE 2000 were destroyed some time ago.
>
> Having just completed a total gutting and restoration of the interior of our center kitchen coach, I can assure you that the wiring layout is totally
> different for the CK model. Ask me how....
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> John
> --
> John Shotwell
> Ridgeville Corners, OH
> 78 Royale Center Kitchen
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> Email: john at gmcmhregistry dot com
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| Re: Coachmen Centre Kitchen Electric and Plumbing Schematics [message #304091 is a reply to message #304074] |
Sun, 24 July 2016 08:56 |
Scott Nutter
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Jim,
I replaced my water heater with the tankless water heater system in my center kitchen Royale. Probably the best interior upgrade I've done.
With this upgrade you can eliminate the the water hoses from the engine.
Scott.
Scott Nutter
1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final drive, Quad bags, Dave Lenzi super duty mid axle disc brakes, tankless water heater, everything Lenzi. Alex Ferrera installed MSD Atomic EFI
Houston, Texas
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| Re: Coachmen Centre Kitchen Electric and Plumbing Schematics [message #304092 is a reply to message #304091] |
Sun, 24 July 2016 09:09 |
jhb1
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Scott Nutter wrote on Sun, 24 July 2016 13:56Jim,
I replaced my water heater with the tankless water heater system in my center kitchen Royale. Probably the best interior upgrade I've done.
With this upgrade you can eliminate the the water hoses from the engine.
Scott.
Without part numbers and pictures it didn't happen. Please post some pics
John H. Bell
77 Royale; QuadBag,Manny OneTon,Honda EV4010, FITech
Montreal Qc.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Coachmen Centre Kitchen Electric and Plumbing Schematics [message #304093 is a reply to message #304091] |
Sun, 24 July 2016 09:00 |
Olly Schmidt
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Scott,
> I replaced my water heater with the tankless water heater system in my center kitchen Royale. Probably the best interior upgrade I've done.
> With this upgrade you can eliminate the the water hoses from the engine.
I kinda like the fact that the engine heat is heating up water. That way
I rarely have to turn on the water heater. Contains enough hot water in
the evening after a long drive to take a shower.
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Best regards
Peer Oliver Schmidt
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'76a Eleganza II, VA
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| Re: [GMCnet] Coachmen Centre Kitchen Electric and Plumbing Schematics [message #304104 is a reply to message #304093] |
Sun, 24 July 2016 10:21 |
Scott Nutter
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John,
I wish I was smart enough to be able to post pictures! But the tankless system is the same dimensions as the stock water heater. Very easy swap out.
Peer,
I have never used my old tank heater, but the ability to have a endless supply of hot water is irreplaceable for us. Trade offs on both sides.
Scott.
Scott Nutter
1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final drive, Quad bags, Dave Lenzi super duty mid axle disc brakes, tankless water heater, everything Lenzi. Alex Ferrera installed MSD Atomic EFI
Houston, Texas
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| Re: [GMCnet] Coachmen Centre Kitchen Electric and Plumbing Schematics [message #304118 is a reply to message #304112] |
Sun, 24 July 2016 11:32 |
Scott Nutter
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Jim,
The installation was very easy. And their was no modification needed with the propane line or the pex water lines. But if you do need to modify the pex water lines, it is cheaper to go to the local hardware store and get braided stainless water hose with female connectors to replace with. With the cutouts on the side of the coachmens, all you do is pull out your old unit and slip in the new.
I do not know for sure if the tankless systems will fit in the GMC fitted coaches without the side cutouts/door.
The one I went with is the Girard tankless unit. It has a adjustable thermostat that you can set per outside air temps. It's a very nice feature. Atwood also makes a tankless system, but I don't have any experience with it. But I'm sure it's good.
I'm going to storage now to put in a new fantastic vent. So email me if you need me to get some pictures of my Girard system.
Scott. Winoscott at AOL dot com
Scott Nutter
1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final drive, Quad bags, Dave Lenzi super duty mid axle disc brakes, tankless water heater, everything Lenzi. Alex Ferrera installed MSD Atomic EFI
Houston, Texas
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| Re: [GMCnet] Coachmen Centre Kitchen Electric and Plumbing Schematics [message #304130 is a reply to message #304104] |
Sun, 24 July 2016 13:31 |
jhb1
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Scott Nutter wrote on Sun, 24 July 2016 15:21John,
I wish I was smart enough to be able to post pictures! But the tankless system is the same dimensions as the stock water heater. Very easy swap out.
Peer,
I have never used my old tank heater, but the ability to have a endless supply of hot water is irreplaceable for us. Trade offs on both sides.
Scott.
How about a part number then
John H. Bell
77 Royale; QuadBag,Manny OneTon,Honda EV4010, FITech
Montreal Qc.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Coachmen Centre Kitchen Electric and Plumbing Schematics [message #304150 is a reply to message #304130] |
Sun, 24 July 2016 18:16 |
Scott Nutter
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John,
I do not have a part number, but it is made by Girard. Out of California. I bought it through Jim K. You can google Girard tankless water heater and they have a pretty good website. Scott
Scott Nutter
1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final drive, Quad bags, Dave Lenzi super duty mid axle disc brakes, tankless water heater, everything Lenzi. Alex Ferrera installed MSD Atomic EFI
Houston, Texas
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| Re: [GMCnet] Coachmen Centre Kitchen Electric and Plumbing Schematics [message #304404 is a reply to message #304150] |
Thu, 28 July 2016 07:54 |
Ray Erspamer
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I have a center kitchen and am very familiar with the water lines.
Give me a call if you'd like. 414-484-9431
Ray
On Sun, Jul 24, 2016 at 6:16 PM, Scott Nutter wrote:
> John,
> I do not have a part number, but it is made by Girard. Out of California. I bought it through Jim K. You can google Girard tankless water heater and
> they have a pretty good website. Scott
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> 1978 455 Royale Center Kitchen, Quad bags.
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78 Royale - "The Great Lakes Eagle"
Center Kitchen TZE368V101144
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
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