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ramps-alternatives to wood [message #300232] Fri, 06 May 2016 13:08 Go to next message
pzerkel is currently offline  pzerkel   United States
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Shortly after I purchased my coach, I built a set of these ramps from wood:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/wood-ramp-construction/p5006.html
I did not paint them, They have mostly lived outside. The weather has taken its toll on them. It is time to build replacements.

What I am wondering about, is if it is possible to build these (or at least similar ones) from something that would hold up to the weather better? I was considering composite decking material. I know that would be much pricier, but would it work?

The composite "boards" come in 1" thickness x 5.4" wide. http://www.lowes.com/pd_371963-46086-229074___?productId=3612032&pl=1&Ntt=composite+decking

I believe a wood 2x4 is actually about 1.5 x 3.5" currently.

I guess what I really want to know is would the composite deck boards hold up under the weight? Also, would it be best to sandwich to of the 1" x 5.5" in places where the plans call for a 2x4?

If any one has thoughts on other alternative building materials, please share them.

Thanks.



Paul Zerkel
'78 Eleganza II
Salisbury IL (near Springfield)
Re: ramps-alternatives to wood [message #300234 is a reply to message #300232] Fri, 06 May 2016 14:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Stick to the wood.


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Re: ramps-alternatives to wood [message #300235 is a reply to message #300232] Fri, 06 May 2016 14:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I love my composite decking but would never use it for structural purposes purposes.

Pressure treated is they way I would go. Here in NC, carpenter bees and termites will eat regular lumber.


Cary, NC 1978 Center Kitchen Royale.
Re: ramps-alternatives to wood [message #300236 is a reply to message #300235] Fri, 06 May 2016 14:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Harry is currently offline  Harry   Canada
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I wouldn't crawl under a motorhome supported by plastic.
Re: [GMCnet] ramps-alternatives to wood [message #300237 is a reply to message #300236] Fri, 06 May 2016 14:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SOLID plastic maybe but other than that, no way.

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On Friday, May 6, 2016, David H. Jarvis wrote:

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Re: ramps-alternatives to wood [message #300240 is a reply to message #300232] Fri, 06 May 2016 17:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I learned from our local lumber rep that the pressure treating only Lars about 6 months to a year for weather protection. Surprised me as I thought it was a forever kind of deal. That being said, if you put a coat of paint on the lumber periodically, or a d CB stain, the lumber should be good for a long, long time.

Just wish those ramps weren't so heavy to haul around!


Matt Sladek 1976 Eleganza II Coralville, IA
Re: ramps-alternatives to wood [message #300241 is a reply to message #300240] Fri, 06 May 2016 19:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ahh... the world of heavy duty equipment. Last October I sent my entire shop and equipment to auction and swore I was never going to climb under another vehicle. In February I bought a 73 GMC motorhome. Whoops... that 2 ton jack was heavy enough to lift. This new 6 ton is a bear. I quit working on big stuff 50 years ago. Oh well... $$$ Smile

thainglo wrote on Fri, 06 May 2016 15:42

Just wish those ramps weren't so heavy to haul around!



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Re: ramps-alternatives to wood [message #300244 is a reply to message #300232] Fri, 06 May 2016 21:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ok. Wood it is. Thanks everyone for your input.

I do think I will paint them this time. I am also considering attaching a couple casters to the 'tall' end, to aid in moving them.


Paul Zerkel
'78 Eleganza II
Salisbury IL (near Springfield)
Re: ramps-alternatives to wood [message #300245 is a reply to message #300244] Fri, 06 May 2016 22:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm not sure what the compressive strength of that composite material is, but the weight alone would keep me from using it for ramps. That stuff is heavy.

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Re: ramps-alternatives to wood [message #300247 is a reply to message #300244] Sat, 07 May 2016 09:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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pzerkel wrote on Fri, 06 May 2016 21:27
I am also considering attaching a couple casters to the 'tall' end, to aid in moving them.


Paul - I'd be curious to see what you come up with for casters. I scratched my head over that same issue when I built mine but couldn't come up with a mount that would allow the caster to be in a good enough position to assist in moving while not being crushed from supporting the weight of the gmc when it is on the ramps. Fortunately, I have a small hand dolly that is a big help in moving them around.


Matt Sladek 1976 Eleganza II Coralville, IA
Re: [GMCnet] ramps-alternatives to wood [message #300249 is a reply to message #300247] Sat, 07 May 2016 11:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Has anyone tried the 3 ton aluminum floor jacks???


----- Original Message -----
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> pzerkel wrote on Fri, 06 May 2016 21:27
>> I am also considering attaching a couple casters to the 'tall' end, to
>> aid in moving them.
>
>
> Paul - I'd be curious to see what you come up with for casters. I
> scratched my head over that same issue when I built mine but couldn't come
> up with a
> mount that would allow the caster to be in a good enough position to
> assist in moving while not being crushed from supporting the weight of the
> gmc
> when it is on the ramps. Fortunately, I have a small hand dolly that is a
> big help in moving them around.
> --
> Matt Sladek
> 1976 Eleganza II
> Coralville, IA
>
>
>


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Re: [GMCnet] ramps-alternatives to wood [message #300252 is a reply to message #300249] Sat, 07 May 2016 11:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have a 3-ton aluminum floor jack that I took to Shawnee.
We used it doing the Sully-bag install on Kim Weeks' coach.

There's probably no way I could lift/carry a steel version.

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> From: rmorrison715@comcast.net
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Date: Sat, 7 May 2016 11:21:17 -0500
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] ramps-alternatives to wood
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> Has anyone tried the 3 ton aluminum floor jacks???
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2016 9:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] ramps-alternatives to wood
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>> pzerkel wrote on Fri, 06 May 2016 21:27
>>> I am also considering attaching a couple casters to the 'tall' end, to
>>> aid in moving them.
>>
>>
>> Paul - I'd be curious to see what you come up with for casters. I
>> scratched my head over that same issue when I built mine but couldn't come
>> up with a
>> mount that would allow the caster to be in a good enough position to
>> assist in moving while not being crushed from supporting the weight of the
>> gmc
>> when it is on the ramps. Fortunately, I have a small hand dolly that is a
>> big help in moving them around.
>> --
>> Matt Sladek
>> 1976 Eleganza II
>> Coralville, IA


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Re: ramps-alternatives to wood [message #300254 is a reply to message #300247] Sat, 07 May 2016 12:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Matt,
Mount solid (non-swivel)3 inch casters vertically on the tall end of the ramps. When you pick up the other end the wheels will engage the ground.


Terry Kelpien ASE Master Technician 73 Glacier 260 Smithfield, Va.
Re: [GMCnet] ramps-alternatives to wood [message #300255 is a reply to message #300252] Sat, 07 May 2016 12:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I got the 3 ton aluminum and steel floor jack from Northern to keep in the GMC. The side rails bow when I lift the rear under the bogie mount. Makes me nervous, so I just keep it in there to be self-sufficient on the side of the road. I use my all-steel 3.5 ton floor jack here at home, but I use the tractor to carry it to the GMC!

Terry Kelpien ASE Master Technician 73 Glacier 260 Smithfield, Va.
Re: ramps-alternatives to wood [message #300256 is a reply to message #300254] Sat, 07 May 2016 13:20 Go to previous message
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Bullitthead wrote on Sat, 07 May 2016 12:43
Matt,
Mount solid (non-swivel)3 inch casters vertically on the tall end of the ramps. When you pick up the other end the wheels will engage the ground.


Exactly what I was thinking!



Paul Zerkel
'78 Eleganza II
Salisbury IL (near Springfield)
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