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| How do you clean an Onan? [message #299138] |
Sat, 16 April 2016 12:50  |
bhayes
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So I had a little, uh, "incident" last summer with the Onan. (Note to self: Do NOT leave the oil cap off the generator and then start it.) I had an oily mess on the Onan that then attracted all sorts of dust, with the result being a mess of oily dirt in about every crack and crevice on the left side that would be much easier to remove with engine degreaser and a hose. But I've heard that you're not supposed to spray the generator with water, so does anyone have any suggestions on how to effectively clean it up without damaging it?
Bryan Hayes
'76 Eleganza II
Salt Lake City, Utah
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| Re: How do you clean an Onan? [message #299148 is a reply to message #299138] |
Sat, 16 April 2016 17:29  |
stick miller
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bhayes wrote on Sat, 16 April 2016 13:50So I had a little, uh, "incident" last summer with the Onan. (Note to self: Do NOT leave the oil cap off the generator and then start it.) I had an oily mess on the Onan that then attracted all sorts of dust, with the result being a mess of oily dirt in about every crack and crevice on the left side that would be much easier to remove with engine degreaser and a hose. But I've heard that you're not supposed to spray the generator with water, so does anyone have any suggestions on how to effectively clean it up without damaging it?
Very carefully!
Stick Miller
'78 Royale - "White Trash" - she left me for another man
'76 Eleganza - "Cousin Eddie" Sold
'84 Bluebird Wanderlodge - "Past Tents"
Americus, GA
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| Re: How do you clean an Onan? [message #299170 is a reply to message #299138] |
Sun, 17 April 2016 10:14 |
jhbridges
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I'm gonna give the air blast/degrease a try on the one I was given. It's encrusted with the crud you'd expect after a 40 year sojourn in the generator bay.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: [GMCnet] How do you clean an Onan? [message #299174 is a reply to message #299170] |
Sun, 17 April 2016 10:30 |
sgltrac
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I think if you cover the ignition/carb/control board wiring you should be
fine with engine degreaser and water/brush Johnny. Then maybe
clean/dry/coat the junction plug ends for the control board with the crc
-26 stuff Duane Simmons recommended. Run the gen loaded for awhile to heat
it up and get any cleaning water vapor out and change the oil.
My2c
Sully
77 Royale
Seattle
On Sunday, April 17, 2016, Johnny Bridges via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> I'm gonna give the air blast/degrease a try on the one I was given. It's
> encrusted with the crud you'd expect after a 40 year sojourn in the
> generator bay.
>
> --johnny
> --
> '76 23' transmode Norris upfit
> Braselton, Ga.
>
> "Sometimes I wonder what tomorrow's gonna bring when I think about my
> dirty life and times" --Warren Zevon
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| Re: [GMCnet] How do you clean an Onan? [message #299178 is a reply to message #299174] |
Sun, 17 April 2016 10:37 |
sgltrac
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Good point Emery. Maybe chase the standing water out of everything with
compressed air when done cleaning and prior to starting.
Sully
77 Royale
Seattle
On Sunday, April 17, 2016, Emery Stora wrote:
> Also be very careful you don't spray any water into the the generator
> located at the rear of the engine.
>
> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Frederick, CO
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>> On Apr 17, 2016, at 9:30 AM, Todd Sullivan > wrote:
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>> I think if you cover the ignition/carb/control board wiring you should be
>> fine with engine degreaser and water/brush Johnny. Then maybe
>> clean/dry/coat the junction plug ends for the control board with the crc
>> -26 stuff Duane Simmons recommended. Run the gen loaded for awhile to
> heat
>> it up and get any cleaning water vapor out and change the oil.
>> My2c
>>
>> Sully
>> 77 Royale
>> Seattle
>>
>> On Sunday, April 17, 2016, Johnny Bridges via Gmclist > gmclist@list.gmcnet.org > wrote:
>>
>>> I'm gonna give the air blast/degrease a try on the one I was given.
> It's
>>> encrusted with the crud you'd expect after a 40 year sojourn in the
>>> generator bay.
>>>
>>> --johnny
>>> --
>>> '76 23' transmode Norris upfit
>>> Braselton, Ga.
>>>
>>> "Sometimes I wonder what tomorrow's gonna bring when I think about my
>>> dirty life and times" --Warren Zevon
>>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] How do you clean an Onan? [message #299181 is a reply to message #299178] |
Sun, 17 April 2016 11:12 |
powerjon
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I think that you go back and look at Duane’s video the proper cleaning techniques he says DO NOT use water when cleaning up your Onan. I have always cleaned the several onans that I have owned with Brake Clean, cleaning brush and rags. If you get water into the generator area you can really screw things up.
JR Wright
GMC Great Laker MHC
GMC Eastern States Charter Member
GMCGL Tech Editor
GMCMI
78 GMC Buskirk 30’ Stretch
1975 GMC Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan
> On Apr 17, 2016, at 11:37 AM, Todd Sullivan wrote:
>
> Good point Emery. Maybe chase the standing water out of everything with
> compressed air when done cleaning and prior to starting.
>
> Sully
> 77 Royale
> Seattle
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> On Sunday, April 17, 2016, Emery Stora wrote:
>
>> Also be very careful you don't spray any water into the the generator
>> located at the rear of the engine.
>>
>> Emery Stora
>> 77 Kingsley
>> Frederick, CO
>>
>>> On Apr 17, 2016, at 9:30 AM, Todd Sullivan > > wrote:
>>>
>>> I think if you cover the ignition/carb/control board wiring you should be
>>> fine with engine degreaser and water/brush Johnny. Then maybe
>>> clean/dry/coat the junction plug ends for the control board with the crc
>>> -26 stuff Duane Simmons recommended. Run the gen loaded for awhile to
>> heat
>>> it up and get any cleaning water vapor out and change the oil.
>>> My2c
>>>
>>> Sully
>>> 77 Royale
>>> Seattle
>>>
>>> On Sunday, April 17, 2016, Johnny Bridges via Gmclist >> gmclist@list.gmcnet.org > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm gonna give the air blast/degrease a try on the one I was given.
>> It's
>>>> encrusted with the crud you'd expect after a 40 year sojourn in the
>>>> generator bay.
>>>>
>>>> --johnny
>>>> --
>>>> '76 23' transmode Norris upfit
>>>> Braselton, Ga.
>>>>
>>>> "Sometimes I wonder what tomorrow's gonna bring when I think about my
>>>> dirty life and times" --Warren Zevon
>>>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] How do you clean an Onan? [message #299182 is a reply to message #299181] |
Sun, 17 April 2016 12:44 |
sgltrac
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Devils advocate here, how much water gets in there from road spray?
Sully
77 Royale
Seattle
On Sunday, April 17, 2016, John Wright wrote:
> I think that you go back and look at Duane’s video the proper cleaning
> techniques he says DO NOT use water when cleaning up your Onan. I have
> always cleaned the several onans that I have owned with Brake Clean,
> cleaning brush and rags. If you get water into the generator area you can
> really screw things up.
>
> JR Wright
> GMC Great Laker MHC
> GMC Eastern States Charter Member
> GMCGL Tech Editor
> GMCMI
> 78 GMC Buskirk 30’ Stretch
> 1975 GMC Avion (Under Reconstruction)
> Michigan
>
>
>> On Apr 17, 2016, at 11:37 AM, Todd Sullivan > wrote:
>>
>> Good point Emery. Maybe chase the standing water out of everything with
>> compressed air when done cleaning and prior to starting.
>>
>> Sully
>> 77 Royale
>> Seattle
>>
>> On Sunday, April 17, 2016, Emery Stora > wrote:
>>
>>> Also be very careful you don't spray any water into the the generator
>>> located at the rear of the engine.
>>>
>>> Emery Stora
>>> 77 Kingsley
>>> Frederick, CO
>>>
>>>> On Apr 17, 2016, at 9:30 AM, Todd Sullivan
>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think if you cover the ignition/carb/control board wiring you should
> be
>>>> fine with engine degreaser and water/brush Johnny. Then maybe
>>>> clean/dry/coat the junction plug ends for the control board with the
> crc
>>>> -26 stuff Duane Simmons recommended. Run the gen loaded for awhile to
>>> heat
>>>> it up and get any cleaning water vapor out and change the oil.
>>>> My2c
>>>>
>>>> Sully
>>>> 77 Royale
>>>> Seattle
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, April 17, 2016, Johnny Bridges via Gmclist >>> gmclist@list.gmcnet.org > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > I'm gonna give the air blast/degrease a try on the one I was given.
>>> It's
>>>> > encrusted with the crud you'd expect after a 40 year sojourn in the
>>>> > generator bay.
>>>> >
>>>> > --johnny
>>>> > --
>>>> > '76 23' transmode Norris upfit
>>>> > Braselton, Ga.
>>>> >
>>>> > "Sometimes I wonder what tomorrow's gonna bring when I think about my
>>>> > dirty life and times" --Warren Zevon
>>>> >
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| Re: How do you clean an Onan? [message #299184 is a reply to message #299138] |
Sun, 17 April 2016 13:35 |
jhbridges
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I don't know if this one runs or when it last ran. However, the plan is to take off the tinwork, bag the alternator and starter and carb, and Gunk <tm>the engine and wash it off with hot water and then air blow - dry. This is done with the engine board and associated wires off the set. (It gets a different cleaning and setup later). I miss the heated agitated degreasers at Mac's, and the vapor degreaser set in the floor at the gin shop. Parts came out of them looking new and ready for paint. I don't think the solvents (HydroSeal Gunk for ferrous and a powder that made a caustic dip for non-ferrous) are even available any more, much to the environment's benefit. Some of that stuff was vicious.
-=-johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: [GMCnet] How do you clean an Onan? [message #299186 is a reply to message #299184] |
Sun, 17 April 2016 13:48 |
James Hupy
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About the best that we can do for hot tanks today is Cascade Dishwasher
Detergent. I have a 250 gallon hot tank that I no longer use because the
caustic soap for it is no longer available. S and J engines in Spokane have
an industrial oven that heats engine blocks and other iron parts to 500° F
or so. It turns scale and grease to dust, then parts are pressure washed
and dried with compressed air. The iron parts look new.
That kind of heat would probably render a generator unusable. Elbow grease
and brake kleen is about the best bet for onan generators. It is what I do.
Go easy on the circuit boards though. What Dwayne Simmons said on the
connectors works well.
Jim Hupy
On Apr 17, 2016 11:36 AM, "Johnny Bridges via Gmclist" <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> I don't know if this one runs or when it last ran. However, the plan is
> to take off the tinwork, bag the alternator and starter and carb, and Gunk
> the engine and wash it off with hot water and then air blow - dry.
> This is done with the engine board and associated wires off the set. (It
> gets
> a different cleaning and setup later). I miss the heated agitated
> degreasers at Mac's, and the vapor degreaser set in the floor at the gin
> shop.
> Parts came out of them looking new and ready for paint. I don't think the
> solvents (HydroSeal Gunk for ferrous and a powder that made a caustic dip
> for non-ferrous) are even available any more, much to the environment's
> benefit. Some of that stuff was vicious.
>
> -=-johnny
> --
> '76 23' transmode Norris upfit
> Braselton, Ga.
>
> "Sometimes I wonder what tomorrow's gonna bring when I think about my
> dirty life and times" --Warren Zevon
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] How do you clean an Onan? [message #299189 is a reply to message #299186] |
Sun, 17 April 2016 16:40 |
Brian Waddell
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Just so people get it correct....I think you and others are speaking of brake CLEANER and NOT brake FLUID....brian 77 ele 455
> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2016 11:48:05 -0700
> From: jamesh1296@gmail.com
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] How do you clean an Onan?
>
> About the best that we can do for hot tanks today is Cascade Dishwasher
> Detergent. I have a 250 gallon hot tank that I no longer use because the
> caustic soap for it is no longer available. S and J engines in Spokane have
> an industrial oven that heats engine blocks and other iron parts to 500° F
> or so. It turns scale and grease to dust, then parts are pressure washed
> and dried with compressed air. The iron parts look new.
> That kind of heat would probably render a generator unusable. Elbow grease
> and brake kleen is about the best bet for onan generators. It is what I do.
> Go easy on the circuit boards though. What Dwayne Simmons said on the
> connectors works well.
> Jim Hupy
> On Apr 17, 2016 11:36 AM, "Johnny Bridges via Gmclist" gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> I don't know if this one runs or when it last ran. However, the plan is
>> to take off the tinwork, bag the alternator and starter and carb, and Gunk
>> the engine and wash it off with hot water and then air blow - dry.
>> This is done with the engine board and associated wires off the set. (It
>> gets
>> a different cleaning and setup later). I miss the heated agitated
>> degreasers at Mac's, and the vapor degreaser set in the floor at the gin
>> shop.
>> Parts came out of them looking new and ready for paint. I don't think the
>> solvents (HydroSeal Gunk for ferrous and a powder that made a caustic dip
>> for non-ferrous) are even available any more, much to the environment's
>> benefit. Some of that stuff was vicious.
>>
>> -=-johnny
>> --
>> '76 23' transmode Norris upfit
>> Braselton, Ga.
>>
>> "Sometimes I wonder what tomorrow's gonna bring when I think about my
>> dirty life and times" --Warren Zevon
>>
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| Re: How do you clean an Onan? [message #299195 is a reply to message #299138] |
Sun, 17 April 2016 18:19 |
jhbridges
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JimH, I remove the paint and conformal coating off the boards, replace the caps and diodes at a minimum, rebuild the traces that have overheated, burnish the blades and repair any that are loose, and then recoat the board. If necessary,make up a new harness up to the 12 pin Molex<tm>. The Molex is the most expensive part, but Skycraft usually has them and their pins on the shelf so I get a few each time I'm around The Mouse. The blade connectors and electronic parts are available for pennies from the Heathen Chinese on Ebay. Purely an exercise to keep my skills and eye-hand coordination going, the economic repair is go buy one from Dinosaur if your time has value.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: [GMCnet] How do you clean an Onan? [message #299196 is a reply to message #299195] |
Sun, 17 April 2016 18:37 |
James Hupy
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Years ago I used to have a side job assembling integrated circuit boards by
installing wire harnesses and chips as well as other components to them.
Techtronics was the owner of the boards. I did not know what the final use
was. They provided a yes/no test fixture that we plugged the harness into
and ran a series of tests. All the components were soldered by hand and
then clipped and cleaned. Fine work under 10 power magnification. Fussy
client. Time constraints dictated that one work efficiently. I know what
you mean by "keeping your head and hand into the game". I have been out of
my shop since December, and Wednesday I picked up my wire feeder and
welded some torsion bar tools. Not the prettiest job I have ever done,
little rusty, am I.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403
On Apr 17, 2016 4:20 PM, "Johnny Bridges via Gmclist" <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> JimH, I remove the paint and conformal coating off the boards, replace the
> caps and diodes at a minimum, rebuild the traces that have overheated,
> burnish the blades and repair any that are loose, and then recoat the
> board. If necessary,make up a new harness up to the 12 pin Molex. The
> Molex is the most expensive part, but Skycraft usually has them and their
> pins on the shelf so I get a few each time I'm around The Mouse. The blade
> connectors and electronic parts are available for pennies from the Heathen
> Chinese on Ebay. Purely an exercise to keep my skills and eye-hand
> coordination going, the economic repair is go buy one from Dinosaur if
> your time has value.
>
> --johnny
>
> --
> '76 23' transmode Norris upfit
> Braselton, Ga.
>
> "Sometimes I wonder what tomorrow's gonna bring when I think about my
> dirty life and times" --Warren Zevon
>
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| Re: How do you clean an Onan? [message #299224 is a reply to message #299138] |
Mon, 18 April 2016 09:00 |
jhbridges
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That's TekTronics, with a 'K'. Oscilloscope and swept analyzer maker. Standard comment on test instruments, "There's Tek, and there's everybody else".
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: [GMCnet] How do you clean an Onan? [message #299226 is a reply to message #299224] |
Mon, 18 April 2016 09:08 |
James Hupy
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Yes, I know how to spell it. It is my Korean Samsung cellular telephone
that does not. It can't even learn how to spell GMC ( calls it GOD) or Judy
(calls her july) or Hupy. (Calls me Huey) you have no idea how many text
messages this phone has changed the meaning and intent of. Ahhhhhhhhhhhh,
technology, ain't it great?
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403
On Apr 18, 2016 7:01 AM, "Johnny Bridges via Gmclist" <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> That's TekTronics, with a 'K'. Oscilloscope and swept analyzer maker.
> Standard comment on test instruments, "There's Tek, and there's everybody
> else".
>
> --johnny
> --
> '76 23' transmode Norris upfit
> Braselton, Ga.
>
> "Sometimes I wonder what tomorrow's gonna bring when I think about my
> dirty life and times" --Warren Zevon
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] How do you clean an Onan? [message #299228 is a reply to message #299226] |
Mon, 18 April 2016 09:40 |
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Can't you turn off "Spell Correct" and replace with "Spell Check"
that doesn't mess things up? My iPhone has "spell check!"
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> Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 07:08:16 -0700
> From: jamesh1296@gmail.com
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] How do you clean an Onan?
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> Yes, I know how to spell it. It is my Korean Samsung cellular telephone
> that does not. It can't even learn how to spell GMC ( calls it GOD) or Judy
> (calls her july) or Hupy. (Calls me Huey) you have no idea how many text
> messages this phone has changed the meaning and intent of. Ahhhhhhhhhhhh,
> technology, ain't it great?
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Or
> 78 GMC ROYALE 403
> On Apr 18, 2016 7:01 AM, "Johnny Bridges via Gmclist" gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> That's TekTronics, with a 'K'. Oscilloscope and swept analyzer maker.
>> Standard comment on test instruments, "There's Tek, and there's everybody
>> else".
>>
>> --johnny
>> --
>> '76 23' transmode Norris upfit
>> Braselton, Ga.
>>
>> "Sometimes I wonder what tomorrow's gonna bring when I think about my
>> dirty life and times" --Warren Zevon
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