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Re: [GMCnet] to heat the cockpit [message #298021] Fri, 25 March 2016 10:36 Go to next message
jessfarr is currently offline  jessfarr   United States
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another idea: http://tinyurl.com/jft7pxe

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Dated: 3/25/2016 10:26:19 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Diverting & controlling engine compartment airflow to;heat the cockpit

Not a big fan of using engine compartment air for heat. There is always going to be an odor.

However, no reason at all that copper tube could not be tightly wrapped around the downpipes (behind the exhaust manifold doughnuts). Pump some
coolant through it and to an auxiliary heater core with fan and you've got heat. I'd mount two, in each seat base, and blow the hot air forward.
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Re: [GMCnet] to heat the cockpit [message #298022 is a reply to message #298021] Fri, 25 March 2016 10:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Harry is currently offline  Harry   Canada
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My Studebaker had under seat heaters using hot water from the engine.
Re: [GMCnet] to heat the cockpit [message #298025 is a reply to message #298021] Fri, 25 March 2016 11:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Our Pontiac ('51 ?) did also. 4 speed HydraMatic and a Continental Red Seal flathead six. Totally unbreakable car.

--johnny


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Re: [GMCnet] to heat the cockpit [message #298035 is a reply to message #298021] Fri, 25 March 2016 14:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
powwerjon is currently offline  powwerjon   United States
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This in not an uncommon problem with a number of the early coaches, primarily the 1976 and earlier coaches. GMC issued a Dealer Service Technical Bulletin 77-TM-1 dated Feb 1977. The subject was “Cold Weather Driver & Passenger Comfort” and was issued for all motorhomes and transcodes prior to the issue date. The 77 & 78 coach did not appear to have the same issue and both the 77 & 78 chassis that I have driven have not had the cold weather issues. I have driven to Florida and AZ in Dec and January thru some nasty weather and was never cold. I don’t have access to a short cut to the DSTB, so if someone does please post it.

You don’t need to throw a lot of money for a bandaid fix to fix a problem that GMC was aware of and how to fix it. Plug your air leaks and it will be a vast improvement!

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> On Mar 25, 2016, at 8:36 AM, jesse farr wrote:
>
> another idea: http://tinyurl.com/jft7pxe
>
> jofarr
> soddy daisy tn
>
>
>
> Original message
> From: "Kerry Pinkerton"
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org;
> Dated: 3/25/2016 10:26:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Diverting & controlling engine compartment airflow to;heat the cockpit
>
> Not a big fan of using engine compartment air for heat. There is always going to be an odor.
>
> However, no reason at all that copper tube could not be tightly wrapped around the downpipes (behind the exhaust manifold doughnuts). Pump some
> coolant through it and to an auxiliary heater core with fan and you've got heat. I'd mount two, in each seat base, and blow the hot air forward.
> --
> Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
>
> 77 Eleganza II, 403CI, Manny Brakes, 1 ton, tranny, lots of aluminum goodies.
>
> http://www.bdub.net/pinkerton/
>
> '03 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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Re: [GMCnet] to heat the cockpit [message #298036 is a reply to message #298035] Fri, 25 March 2016 14:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
A Hamilto is currently offline  A Hamilto   United States
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powwerjon wrote on Fri, 25 March 2016 14:25
...I don't have access to a short cut to the DSTB, so if someone does please post it. ...
http://www.gmcmotorhome.com/tech/77tm1.html
Re: [GMCnet] to heat the cockpit [message #298038 is a reply to message #298036] Fri, 25 March 2016 15:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
powwerjon is currently offline  powwerjon   United States
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Thank You, I forgot about that link.

J.R. Wright
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> On Mar 25, 2016, at 12:38 PM, A. wrote:
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> powwerjon wrote on Fri, 25 March 2016 14:25
>> ...I don't have access to a short cut to the DSTB, so if someone does please post it. ...
> http://www.gmcmotorhome.com/tech/77tm1.html
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Re: [GMCnet] to heat the cockpit [message #298039 is a reply to message #298022] Fri, 25 March 2016 15:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Harry wrote on Fri, 25 March 2016 09:52
My Studebaker had under seat heaters using hot water from the engine.


My first car, a 1954 Studebaker had one too.
Hal


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Re: [GMCnet] to heat the cockpit [message #298040 is a reply to message #298038] Fri, 25 March 2016 15:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
A Hamilto is currently offline  A Hamilto   United States
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powwerjon wrote on Fri, 25 March 2016 15:04
Thank You, I forgot about that link.
J.R. Wright
30' Buskirk Stretch
Michigan
On Location in Tucson
I think the complete compilation of Technical Bulletins used to be on Bdub's site, but I can only find it at GMCMI now.

http://www.gmcmi.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/X0021_All-ModelsFactory-Service-Recall-Bulletins.pdf
Re: [GMCnet] to heat the cockpit [message #298079 is a reply to message #298021] Sat, 26 March 2016 01:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gatsbys' Cruiser is currently offline  Gatsbys' Cruiser   United States
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I may be on the wrong end of this conversation, but I caught talk of heat for the coach by the driver and passenger. I particularly was interested where they were saying the earlier coaches had a problem with heating.
I have a 74 Glacier and I can't tell you what this thing has gone through with the prior 3 owners but the heating/AC was a basket case when I got her.
A couple years ago I was trying to get heat to the drivers area and starting taking things apart to see why there was only cold air, even when the heat lever was over to full heat....
I found that the cable hold, that screws the plastic tube to the control panel chasis in the dash had broken off so when you moved the heat lever, the entire cable just moved to and from and the heater door didnt open. After I replaced the cable, the heat worked well.... But there was another change that I did too. The POs, well one of them, must have had a vacuum problem because allthe vacuum hoses were cut off, including the vacuum lines for the air vent motors. There was no repairing this, nothing was left. I ended up proping the vents open full time to get air flow into the coach which may have helped with the heat remedy.
If you are having a problem getting heat or air flow, I'd check both of these items. The heat that I get now is quite adequit, far better than when I brought the old girl home for the first time......
Re: [GMCnet] to heat the cockpit [message #298091 is a reply to message #298079] Sat, 26 March 2016 10:58 Go to previous message
A Hamilto is currently offline  A Hamilto   United States
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Gatsbys' Cruiser wrote on Sat, 26 March 2016 01:36
...all the vacuum hoses were cut off, including the vacuum lines for the air vent motors. There was no repairing this, nothing was left. ...
If the actuators were in place, and the dash control was there, the only things missing would have been the accumulator and the hoses. IIRC, the aftermarket accumulator (AKA vacuum tank) that people use is out of a Corvette. Once you get the accumulator back in place, it is just a matter of re-installing all the lines.

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