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[GMCnet] Ran into a road block for going to Dothan [message #297949] |
Wed, 23 March 2016 22:55 |
BobDunahugh
Messages: 2465 Registered: October 2010 Location: Cedar Rapids, IA
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I rented a warehouse space to a muslim. He stopped paying rent at the end of January. The reason is unbelieveable. Then got that unit in violation of city building, and fire codes. Another unbelievable story. Took him to court. He never showed up. So I won the court case. He then got mad at me because I had paid off the judge. So to get revenge. He took out water, and electrical fixtures. Damaged the heating system. Took down the ceiling grid, and ceiling tile. Removed all my work benches. And I've got 2 dump truck loads of trash to haul out. The police say it's a civil matter. No use in taking him to court. As he has nothing here, or in Seria. I had lost about 6 days of work on the GMC before the court date with him in Feb, and March. Now this. I'm sorry to some of you. But I worked my ass off to go to Dothan. I've been putting in 12 to 14 hrs a day to go. With the garbage he put in there. I have to clean this mess up for the comfort of the great other tenants in the building. Right now I'm mentally broken. On the bright side. Branson is just about 10 weeks later. I need to get a GMC grille to Tom McManus. Anyone coming by Cedar Rapids Iowa on there way to Dothan?
Bob Dunahugh
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Re: [GMCnet] Ran into a road block for going to Dothan [message #297964 is a reply to message #297949] |
Thu, 24 March 2016 10:19 |
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Matt Colie
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BobDunahugh wrote on Wed, 23 March 2016 23:55I rented a warehouse space to a muslim. He stopped paying rent at the end of January. The reason is unbelieveable. Then got that unit in violation of city building, and fire codes. Another unbelievable story. Took him to court. He never showed up. So I won the court case. He then got mad at me because I had paid off the judge. So to get revenge. He took out water, and electrical fixtures. Damaged the heating system. Took down the ceiling grid, and ceiling tile. Removed all my work benches. And I've got 2 dump truck loads of trash to haul out. The police say it's a civil matter. No use in taking him to court. As he has nothing here, or in Seria. I had lost about 6 days of work on the GMC before the court date with him in Feb, and March. Now this. I'm sorry to some of you. But I worked my ass off to go to Dothan. I've been putting in 12 to 14 hrs a day to go. With the garbage he put in there. I have to clean this mess up for the comfort of the great other tenants in the building. Right now I'm mentally broken. On the bright side. Branson is just about 10 weeks later. I need to get a GMC grille to Tom McManus. Anyone coming by Cedar Rapids Iowa on there way to Dothan?
Bob Dunahugh
Bob,
We will miss you at Dothan.
Theft, fraud, malicious destruction of property are legal issues in most places. It may be that the local PD are afraid to rock the boat.
I suggest that you look up a local attorney. Many Bar Associations have a "Talk an Attorney" program with a very low cost for a first consult.
It is a shame that you have to take the hit, but remember it at tax time.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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Re: [GMCnet] Ran into a road block for going to Dothan [message #297970 is a reply to message #297964] |
Thu, 24 March 2016 11:59 |
lqqkatjon
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That is very upsetting. If a person has time to sue to make a point, is one thing, but to sue to get money, usually you end up on the loosing end. At least that is my real world experience as well.
I am sad this did not work out for you to be complete by now, as I was really hoping when I was watching you hammer away at a project that would take the normal person decades to complete. Dothan is quite the trip for a shakedown, maybe situation is meant to be as Branson will be a much shorter shake down run.
Maybe we need to set up a work rally and only work on one coach at your place before Branson.
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
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Re: [GMCnet] Ran into a road block for going to Dothan [message #297972 is a reply to message #297964] |
Thu, 24 March 2016 12:27 |
Steve Jess
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Bob I sympathize with your situation. But I wonder why you found it necessary to say you had rented to a Muslim? Do you believe his faith had anything to do with it?
I doubt Muslims are more likely to be thieves than any other religion, probably less so, in fact. Remember in some Muslim countries stealing will get you one less hand for the rest of your life.
If your renter had been a white protestant would that have been the first thing you noted in your report?
Steve Jess - Tucson, AZ
> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 09:19:50 -0600
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> From: matt7323tze@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Ran into a road block for going to Dothan
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> BobDunahugh wrote on Wed, 23 March 2016 23:55
>> I rented a warehouse space to a muslim. He stopped paying rent at the end of January. The reason is unbelieveable. Then got that unit in
>> violation of city building, and fire codes. Another unbelievable story. Took him to court. He never showed up. So I won the court case. He then got
>> mad at me because I had paid off the judge. So to get revenge. He took out water, and electrical fixtures. Damaged the heating system. Took down
>> the ceiling grid, and ceiling tile. Removed all my work benches. And I've got 2 dump truck loads of trash to haul out. The police say it's a civil
>> matter. No use in taking him to court. As he has nothing here, or in Seria. I had lost about 6 days of work on the GMC before the court date with
>> him in Feb, and March. Now this. I'm sorry to some of you. But I worked my ass off to go to Dothan. I've been putting in 12 to 14 hrs a day to go.
>> With the garbage he put in there. I have to clean this mess up for the comfort of the great other tenants in the building. Right now I'm mentally
>> broken. On the bright side. Branson is just about 10 weeks later. I need to get a GMC grille to Tom McManus. Anyone coming by Cedar Rapids Iowa on
>> there way to Dothan?
>> Bob Dunahugh
>
> Bob,
>
> We will miss you at Dothan.
>
> Theft, fraud, malicious destruction of property are legal issues in most places. It may be that the local PD are afraid to rock the boat.
> I suggest that you look up a local attorney. Many Bar Associations have a "Talk an Attorney" program with a very low cost for a first consult.
>
> It is a shame that you have to take the hit, but remember it at tax time.
>
> Matt
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Re: [GMCnet] Ran into a road block for going to Dothan [message #297976 is a reply to message #297949] |
Thu, 24 March 2016 13:52 |
jhbridges
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" Remember in some Muslim countries stealing will get you one less hand for the rest of your life."
In point of fact, at the time and place where this was instigated in Sharia law, removal of the right hand sentenced the thief to slow death by starvation.
--johnny
'Less PC, more GMC'
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Re: [GMCnet] Ran into a road block for going to Dothan [message #297978 is a reply to message #297972] |
Thu, 24 March 2016 14:21 |
Emery Stora
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Your message implies that Bob is a racist. That is far from the truth. He has rented to Hindus, Blacks and others and has never had the problems he had with this renter. He and I have discussed his problems a few times over the last few months. The renter kept telling him that he did not have to follow US law as his religion only had Sharia law and it didn’t matter what Bob felt. So, yes, his faith had a lot to do with it.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO
> On Mar 24, 2016, at 11:27 AM, Steve Jess wrote:
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> Bob I sympathize with your situation. But I wonder why you found it necessary to say you had rented to a Muslim? Do you believe his faith had anything to do with it?
> I doubt Muslims are more likely to be thieves than any other religion, probably less so, in fact. Remember in some Muslim countries stealing will get you one less hand for the rest of your life.
>
> If your renter had been a white protestant would that have been the first thing you noted in your report?
>
> Steve Jess - Tucson, AZ
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>
>
>> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 09:19:50 -0600
>> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>> From: matt7323tze@gmail.com
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Ran into a road block for going to Dothan
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>> BobDunahugh wrote on Wed, 23 March 2016 23:55
>>> I rented a warehouse space to a muslim. He stopped paying rent at the end of January. The reason is unbelieveable. Then got that unit in
>>> violation of city building, and fire codes. Another unbelievable story. Took him to court. He never showed up. So I won the court case. He then got
>>> mad at me because I had paid off the judge. So to get revenge. He took out water, and electrical fixtures. Damaged the heating system. Took down
>>> the ceiling grid, and ceiling tile. Removed all my work benches. And I've got 2 dump truck loads of trash to haul out. The police say it's a civil
>>> matter. No use in taking him to court. As he has nothing here, or in Seria. I had lost about 6 days of work on the GMC before the court date with
>>> him in Feb, and March. Now this. I'm sorry to some of you. But I worked my ass off to go to Dothan. I've been putting in 12 to 14 hrs a day to go.
>>> With the garbage he put in there. I have to clean this mess up for the comfort of the great other tenants in the building. Right now I'm mentally
>>> broken. On the bright side. Branson is just about 10 weeks later. I need to get a GMC grille to Tom McManus. Anyone coming by Cedar Rapids Iowa on
>>> there way to Dothan?
>>> Bob Dunahugh
>>
>> Bob,
>>
>> We will miss you at Dothan.
>>
>> Theft, fraud, malicious destruction of property are legal issues in most places. It may be that the local PD are afraid to rock the boat.
>> I suggest that you look up a local attorney. Many Bar Associations have a "Talk an Attorney" program with a very low cost for a first consult.
>>
>> It is a shame that you have to take the hit, but remember it at tax time.
>>
>> Matt
>> --
>> Matt & Mary Colie - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
>> '73 Glacier 23 - Still Loving OE Rear Drum Brake with Applied Control Arms
>> Now with both true Keyless and remote entry
>> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>>
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Re: [GMCnet] Ran into a road block for going to Dothan [message #297979 is a reply to message #297972] |
Thu, 24 March 2016 14:22 |
Emery Stora
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> On Mar 24, 2016, at 11:27 AM, Steve Jess wrote:
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> Bob I sympathize with your situation. But I wonder why you found it necessary to say you had rented to a Muslim? Do you believe his faith had anything to do with it?
> I doubt Muslims are more likely to be thieves than any other religion, probably less so, in fact. Remember in some Muslim countries stealing will get you one less hand for the rest of your life.
>
> If your renter had been a white protestant would that have been the first thing you noted in your report?
>
> Steve Jess - Tucson, AZ
>
>
>
>> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 09:19:50 -0600
>> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>> From: matt7323tze@gmail.com
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Ran into a road block for going to Dothan
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>> BobDunahugh wrote on Wed, 23 March 2016 23:55
>>> I rented a warehouse space to a muslim. He stopped paying rent at the end of January. The reason is unbelieveable. Then got that unit in
>>> violation of city building, and fire codes. Another unbelievable story. Took him to court. He never showed up. So I won the court case. He then got
>>> mad at me because I had paid off the judge. So to get revenge. He took out water, and electrical fixtures. Damaged the heating system. Took down
>>> the ceiling grid, and ceiling tile. Removed all my work benches. And I've got 2 dump truck loads of trash to haul out. The police say it's a civil
>>> matter. No use in taking him to court. As he has nothing here, or in Seria. I had lost about 6 days of work on the GMC before the court date with
>>> him in Feb, and March. Now this. I'm sorry to some of you. But I worked my ass off to go to Dothan. I've been putting in 12 to 14 hrs a day to go.
>>> With the garbage he put in there. I have to clean this mess up for the comfort of the great other tenants in the building. Right now I'm mentally
>>> broken. On the bright side. Branson is just about 10 weeks later. I need to get a GMC grille to Tom McManus. Anyone coming by Cedar Rapids Iowa on
>>> there way to Dothan?
>>> Bob Dunahugh
>>
>> Bob,
>>
>> We will miss you at Dothan.
>>
>> Theft, fraud, malicious destruction of property are legal issues in most places. It may be that the local PD are afraid to rock the boat.
>> I suggest that you look up a local attorney. Many Bar Associations have a "Talk an Attorney" program with a very low cost for a first consult.
>>
>> It is a shame that you have to take the hit, but remember it at tax time.
>>
>> Matt
>> --
>> Matt & Mary Colie - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
>> '73 Glacier 23 - Still Loving OE Rear Drum Brake with Applied Control Arms
>> Now with both true Keyless and remote entry
>> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>>
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Re: [GMCnet] Ran into a road block for going to Dothan [message #297980 is a reply to message #297949] |
Thu, 24 March 2016 14:47 |
jhbridges
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Stole the water and electrical fixtures? Get the local Imam and you hold him while the Imam administers justice under the law he respects. Won't get your stuff back, but it oughta keep him from doing it again.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
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Re: [GMCnet] Ran into a road block for going to Dothan [message #297981 is a reply to message #297976] |
Thu, 24 March 2016 15:10 |
James Hupy
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Bob, sorry you can't make it to the rally. You have worked very hard
against tall odds, given it a huge effort, and outside forces have
conspired to defeat you. You have my sympathy. Remember the "B" words the
next time you lease your property. "BRUSSELS, BELGIUM, BOSTON, MASS.
BURKA, BOMBERS. But, gee, perhaps maybe I might be a bit cynical. I owned
a rental property and leased it to my lesbian niece. She had a cat. She
was also an employee of my flower shop. Gave her a break on the lease by
letting her live there at 1/2 the going rate for the property. She left
the cat loose in the house while she was at work. It did at least
$25000.00 in damages. Had to remodel the house after I evicted her. Didn't
make any friends with that move, but it was necessary. Never so glad to
sell something in my life. Bad deal all around. Would I rent to another
lesbian niece with a cat? Not likely. Does that make me prejudiced? Nahh,
just snakebit and twice shy.
Jim Hupy
" Remember in some Muslim countries stealing will get you one less hand for
the rest of your life."
In point of fact, at the time and place where this was instigated in Sharia
law, removal of the right hand sentenced the thief to slow death by
starvation.
--johnny
'Less PC, more GMC'
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Braselton, Ga.
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life and times" --Warren Zevon
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Re: [GMCnet] Ran into a road block for going to Dothan [message #297982 is a reply to message #297979] |
Thu, 24 March 2016 16:18 |
Sara Robinson
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Sounds like the kind of thing I’d have a chat with my city council member about. This guy destroyed your property, and stole your stuff. That’s a criminal offense. If the cops won’t enforce the law, then I’d appeal to the elected official who a) counts on my vote and b) is most closely involved with the police budget.
> On Mar 24, 2016, at 12:22 PM, Emery Stora wrote:
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>> On Mar 24, 2016, at 11:27 AM, Steve Jess wrote:
>>
>> Bob I sympathize with your situation. But I wonder why you found it necessary to say you had rented to a Muslim? Do you believe his faith had anything to do with it?
>> I doubt Muslims are more likely to be thieves than any other religion, probably less so, in fact. Remember in some Muslim countries stealing will get you one less hand for the rest of your life.
>>
>> If your renter had been a white protestant would that have been the first thing you noted in your report?
>>
>> Steve Jess - Tucson, AZ
>>
>>
>>
>>> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 09:19:50 -0600
>>> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>>> From: matt7323tze@gmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Ran into a road block for going to Dothan
>>>
>>> BobDunahugh wrote on Wed, 23 March 2016 23:55
>>>> I rented a warehouse space to a muslim. He stopped paying rent at the end of January. The reason is unbelieveable. Then got that unit in
>>>> violation of city building, and fire codes. Another unbelievable story. Took him to court. He never showed up. So I won the court case. He then got
>>>> mad at me because I had paid off the judge. So to get revenge. He took out water, and electrical fixtures. Damaged the heating system. Took down
>>>> the ceiling grid, and ceiling tile. Removed all my work benches. And I've got 2 dump truck loads of trash to haul out. The police say it's a civil
>>>> matter. No use in taking him to court. As he has nothing here, or in Seria. I had lost about 6 days of work on the GMC before the court date with
>>>> him in Feb, and March. Now this. I'm sorry to some of you. But I worked my ass off to go to Dothan. I've been putting in 12 to 14 hrs a day to go.
>>>> With the garbage he put in there. I have to clean this mess up for the comfort of the great other tenants in the building. Right now I'm mentally
>>>> broken. On the bright side. Branson is just about 10 weeks later. I need to get a GMC grille to Tom McManus. Anyone coming by Cedar Rapids Iowa on
>>>> there way to Dothan?
>>>> Bob Dunahugh
>>>
>>> Bob,
>>>
>>> We will miss you at Dothan.
>>>
>>> Theft, fraud, malicious destruction of property are legal issues in most places. It may be that the local PD are afraid to rock the boat.
>>> I suggest that you look up a local attorney. Many Bar Associations have a "Talk an Attorney" program with a very low cost for a first consult.
>>>
>>> It is a shame that you have to take the hit, but remember it at tax time.
>>>
>>> Matt
>>> --
>>> Matt & Mary Colie - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
>>> '73 Glacier 23 - Still Loving OE Rear Drum Brake with Applied Control Arms
>>> Now with both true Keyless and remote entry
>>> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>>>
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Re: [GMCnet] Ran into a road block for going to Dothan [message #297987 is a reply to message #297978] |
Thu, 24 March 2016 19:25 |
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The guy was a liar and a thief. Why believe that he was practising devote Muslim?
Emery Stora wrote on Thu, 24 March 2016 15:21Your message implies that Bob is a racist. That is far from the truth. He has rented to Hindus, Blacks and others and has never had the problems he had with this renter. He and I have discussed his problems a few times over the last few months. The renter kept telling him that he did not have to follow US law as his religion only had Sharia law and it didn't matter what Bob felt. So, yes, his faith had a lot to do with it.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO
> On Mar 24, 2016, at 11:27 AM, Steve Jess wrote:
>
> Bob I sympathize with your situation. But I wonder why you found it necessary to say you had rented to a Muslim? Do you believe his faith had anything to do with it?
> I doubt Muslims are more likely to be thieves than any other religion, probably less so, in fact. Remember in some Muslim countries stealing will get you one less hand for the rest of your life.
>
> If your renter had been a white protestant would that have been the first thing you noted in your report?
>
> Steve Jess - Tucson, AZ
>
>
>
>> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 09:19:50 -0600
>> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>> From: matt7323tze@gmail.com
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Ran into a road block for going to Dothan
>>
>> BobDunahugh wrote on Wed, 23 March 2016 23:55
>>> I rented a warehouse space to a muslim. He stopped paying rent at the end of January. The reason is unbelieveable. Then got that unit in
>>> violation of city building, and fire codes. Another unbelievable story. Took him to court. He never showed up. So I won the court case. He then got
>>> mad at me because I had paid off the judge. So to get revenge. He took out water, and electrical fixtures. Damaged the heating system. Took down
>>> the ceiling grid, and ceiling tile. Removed all my work benches. And I've got 2 dump truck loads of trash to haul out. The police say it's a civil
>>> matter. No use in taking him to court. As he has nothing here, or in Seria. I had lost about 6 days of work on the GMC before the court date with
>>> him in Feb, and March. Now this. I'm sorry to some of you. But I worked my ass off to go to Dothan. I've been putting in 12 to 14 hrs a day to go.
>>> With the garbage he put in there. I have to clean this mess up for the comfort of the great other tenants in the building. Right now I'm mentally
>>> broken. On the bright side. Branson is just about 10 weeks later. I need to get a GMC grille to Tom McManus. Anyone coming by Cedar Rapids Iowa on
>>> there way to Dothan?
>>> Bob Dunahugh
>>
>> Bob,
>>
>> We will miss you at Dothan.
>>
>> Theft, fraud, malicious destruction of property are legal issues in most places. It may be that the local PD are afraid to rock the boat.
>> I suggest that you look up a local attorney. Many Bar Associations have a "Talk an Attorney" program with a very low cost for a first consult.
>>
>> It is a shame that you have to take the hit, but remember it at tax time.
>>
>> Matt
>> --
>> Matt & Mary Colie - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
>> '73 Glacier 23 - Still Loving OE Rear Drum Brake with Applied Control Arms
>> Now with both true Keyless and remote entry
>> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>>
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Re: [GMCnet] Ran into a road block for going to Dothan [message #297991 is a reply to message #297987] |
Thu, 24 March 2016 20:32 |
k2gkk
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I have read (English translation only) that the prohibition against lying,
cheating, stealing, murdering, etc. applies ONLY to other muslims and NOT
to "infidels" which means anybody other than another muslim.
So yes, his so-called faith does call for the lying, cheating, stealing, etc.
Mac in OKC
> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 18:25:54 -0600
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> From: psmith47@nc.rr.com
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Ran into a road block for going to Dothan
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> The guy was a liar and a thief. Why believe that he was practising devote Muslim?
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> Emery Stora wrote on Thu, 24 March 2016 15:21
>> Your message implies that Bob is a racist. That is far from the truth. He has rented to Hindus, Blacks and others and has never had the problems
>> he had with this renter. He and I have discussed his problems a few times over the last few months. The renter kept telling him that he did not
>> have to follow US law as his religion only had Sharia law and it didn't matter what Bob felt. So, yes, his faith had a lot to do with it.
>>
>> Emery Stora
>> 77 Kingsley
>> Frederick, CO
>>
>>> On Mar 24, 2016, at 11:27 AM, Steve Jess wrote:
>>>
>>> Bob I sympathize with your situation. But I wonder why you found it necessary to say you had rented to a Muslim? Do you believe his faith
>>> had anything to do with it?
>>> I doubt Muslims are more likely to be thieves than any other religion, probably less so, in fact. Remember in some Muslim countries stealing
>>> will get you one less hand for the rest of your life.
>>>
>>> If your renter had been a white protestant would that have been the first thing you noted in your report?
>>>
>>> Steve Jess - Tucson, AZ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 09:19:50 -0600
>>>> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>>>> From: matt7323tze@gmail.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Ran into a road block for going to Dothan
>>>>
>>>> BobDunahugh wrote on Wed, 23 March 2016 23:55
>>>> > I rented a warehouse space to a muslim. He stopped paying rent at the end of January. The reason is unbelieveable. Then got that unit in
>>>> > violation of city building, and fire codes. Another unbelievable story. Took him to court. He never showed up. So I won the court case. He
>> then got
>>>> > mad at me because I had paid off the judge. So to get revenge. He took out water, and electrical fixtures. Damaged the heating system. Took
>> down
>>>> > the ceiling grid, and ceiling tile. Removed all my work benches. And I've got 2 dump truck loads of trash to haul out. The police say it's a
>> civil
>>>> > matter. No use in taking him to court. As he has nothing here, or in Seria. I had lost about 6 days of work on the GMC before the court
>> date with
>>>> > him in Feb, and March. Now this. I'm sorry to some of you. But I worked my ass off to go to Dothan. I've been putting in 12 to 14 hrs a day
>> to go.
>>>> > With the garbage he put in there. I have to clean this mess up for the comfort of the great other tenants in the building. Right now I'm
>> mentally
>>>> > broken. On the bright side. Branson is just about 10 weeks later. I need to get a GMC grille to Tom McManus. Anyone coming by Cedar Rapids
>> Iowa on
>>>> > there way to Dothan?
>>>> > Bob Dunahugh
>>>>
>>>> Bob,
>>>>
>>>> We will miss you at Dothan.
>>>>
>>>> Theft, fraud, malicious destruction of property are legal issues in most places. It may be that the local PD are afraid to rock the boat.
>>>> I suggest that you look up a local attorney. Many Bar Associations have a "Talk an Attorney" program with a very low cost for a first
>> consult.
>>>>
>>>> It is a shame that you have to take the hit, but remember it at tax time.
>>>>
>>>> Matt
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>>>> '73 Glacier 23 - Still Loving OE Rear Drum Brake with Applied Control Arms
>>>> Now with both true Keyless and remote entry
>>>> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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Re: [GMCnet] Ran into a road block for going to Dothan [message #297992 is a reply to message #297981] |
Thu, 24 March 2016 21:07 |
k2gkk
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In much of the muslim world, the left hand is what is used
for wiping one's butt with a stone after defecation! Toilet
tissue is apparently an invention of infidels!
Tuff luck if your right hand used for eating has been cut off!
Mac in OKC
> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 13:10:20 -0700
> From: jamesh1296@gmail.com
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Ran into a road block for going to Dothan
>
> Bob, sorry you can't make it to the rally. You have worked very hard
> against tall odds, given it a huge effort, and outside forces have
> conspired to defeat you. You have my sympathy. Remember the "B" words the
> next time you lease your property. "BRUSSELS, BELGIUM, BOSTON, MASS.
> BURKA, BOMBERS. But, gee, perhaps maybe I might be a bit cynical. I owned
> a rental property and leased it to my lesbian niece. She had a cat. She
> was also an employee of my flower shop. Gave her a break on the lease by
> letting her live there at 1/2 the going rate for the property. She left
> the cat loose in the house while she was at work. It did at least
> $25000.00 in damages. Had to remodel the house after I evicted her. Didn't
> make any friends with that move, but it was necessary. Never so glad to
> sell something in my life. Bad deal all around. Would I rent to another
> lesbian niece with a cat? Not likely. Does that make me prejudiced? Nahh,
> just snakebit and twice shy.
> Jim Hupy
> " Remember in some Muslim countries stealing will get you one less hand for
> the rest of your life."
> In point of fact, at the time and place where this was instigated in Sharia
> law, removal of the right hand sentenced the thief to slow death by
> starvation.
>
> --johnny
>
> 'Less PC, more GMC'
> --
> '76 23' transmode Norris upfit
> Braselton, Ga.
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Re: [GMCnet] Ran into a road block for going to Dothan [message #297993 is a reply to message #297991] |
Thu, 24 March 2016 21:03 |
bdub
Messages: 1578 Registered: February 2004 Location: Central Texas
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Ok, guys. Lets drop the religion stuff. You all know it's against the
rules.
Billy Massey, GMCnet Moderator
On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 8:32 PM, D C _Mac_ Macdonald
wrote:
> I have read (English translation only) that the prohibition against lying,
> cheating, stealing, murdering, etc. applies ONLY to other muslims and NOT
> to "infidels" which means anybody other than another muslim.
>
> So yes, his so-called faith does call for the lying, cheating, stealing,
> etc.
>
> Mac in OKC
>
>
>> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 18:25:54 -0600
>> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>> From: psmith47@nc.rr.com
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Ran into a road block for going to Dothan
>>
>> The guy was a liar and a thief. Why believe that he was practising
> devote Muslim?
>>
>>
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>>
>>
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>>
>>
>> Emery Stora wrote on Thu, 24 March 2016 15:21
>>> Your message implies that Bob is a racist. That is far from the
> truth. He has rented to Hindus, Blacks and others and has never had the
> problems
>>> he had with this renter. He and I have discussed his problems a few
> times over the last few months. The renter kept telling him that he did not
>>> have to follow US law as his religion only had Sharia law and it
> didn't matter what Bob felt. So, yes, his faith had a lot to do with it.
>>>
>>> Emery Stora
>>> 77 Kingsley
>>> Frederick, CO
>>>
>>>> On Mar 24, 2016, at 11:27 AM, Steve Jess wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Bob I sympathize with your situation. But I wonder why you found
> it necessary to say you had rented to a Muslim? Do you believe his faith
>>>> had anything to do with it?
>>>> I doubt Muslims are more likely to be thieves than any other
> religion, probably less so, in fact. Remember in some Muslim countries
> stealing
>>>> will get you one less hand for the rest of your life.
>>>>
>>>> If your renter had been a white protestant would that have been the
> first thing you noted in your report?
>>>>
>>>> Steve Jess - Tucson, AZ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 09:19:50 -0600
>>>> > To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>>>> > From: matt7323tze@gmail.com
>>>> > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Ran into a road block for going to Dothan
>>>> >
>>>> > BobDunahugh wrote on Wed, 23 March 2016 23:55
>>>> >> I rented a warehouse space to a muslim. He stopped paying rent
> at the end of January. The reason is unbelieveable. Then got that unit in
>>>> >> violation of city building, and fire codes. Another unbelievable
> story. Took him to court. He never showed up. So I won the court case. He
>>> then got
>>>> >> mad at me because I had paid off the judge. So to get revenge.
> He took out water, and electrical fixtures. Damaged the heating system. Took
>>> down
>>>> >> the ceiling grid, and ceiling tile. Removed all my work benches.
> And I've got 2 dump truck loads of trash to haul out. The police say it's a
>>> civil
>>>> >> matter. No use in taking him to court. As he has nothing here,
> or in Seria. I had lost about 6 days of work on the GMC before the court
>>> date with
>>>> >> him in Feb, and March. Now this. I'm sorry to some of you. But I
> worked my ass off to go to Dothan. I've been putting in 12 to 14 hrs a day
>>> to go.
>>>> >> With the garbage he put in there. I have to clean this mess up
> for the comfort of the great other tenants in the building. Right now I'm
>>> mentally
>>>> >> broken. On the bright side. Branson is just about 10 weeks
> later. I need to get a GMC grille to Tom McManus. Anyone coming by Cedar
> Rapids
>>> Iowa on
>>>> >> there way to Dothan?
>>>> >> Bob Dunahugh
>>>> >
>>>> > Bob,
>>>> >
>>>> > We will miss you at Dothan.
>>>> >
>>>> > Theft, fraud, malicious destruction of property are legal issues
> in most places. It may be that the local PD are afraid to rock the boat.
>>>> > I suggest that you look up a local attorney. Many Bar
> Associations have a "Talk an Attorney" program with a very low cost for a
> first
>>> consult.
>>>> >
>>>> > It is a shame that you have to take the hit, but remember it at
> tax time.
>>>> >
>>>> > Matt
>>>> > --
>>>> > Matt & Mary Colie - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
>>>> > '73 Glacier 23 - Still Loving OE Rear Drum Brake with Applied
> Control Arms
>>>> > Now with both true Keyless and remote entry
>>>> > SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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Re: [GMCnet] Ran into a road block for going to Dothan [message #297994 is a reply to message #297992] |
Thu, 24 March 2016 21:26 |
jimk
Messages: 6734 Registered: July 2006 Location: Belmont, CA
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I can tell you Bob is not an racist
Known him and dealt with him for several years.
A bad apple makes it bad for all of us.
On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 7:07 PM, D C _Mac_ Macdonald
wrote:
> In much of the muslim world, the left hand is what is used
> for wiping one's butt with a stone after defecation! Toilet
> tissue is apparently an invention of infidels!
>
> Tuff luck if your right hand used for eating has been cut off!
>
> Mac in OKC
>
>
>> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 13:10:20 -0700
>> From: jamesh1296@gmail.com
>> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Ran into a road block for going to Dothan
>>
>> Bob, sorry you can't make it to the rally. You have worked very hard
>> against tall odds, given it a huge effort, and outside forces have
>> conspired to defeat you. You have my sympathy. Remember the "B" words the
>> next time you lease your property. "BRUSSELS, BELGIUM, BOSTON, MASS.
>> BURKA, BOMBERS. But, gee, perhaps maybe I might be a bit cynical. I
> owned
>> a rental property and leased it to my lesbian niece. She had a cat. She
>> was also an employee of my flower shop. Gave her a break on the lease by
>> letting her live there at 1/2 the going rate for the property. She left
>> the cat loose in the house while she was at work. It did at least
>> $25000.00 in damages. Had to remodel the house after I evicted her.
> Didn't
>> make any friends with that move, but it was necessary. Never so glad to
>> sell something in my life. Bad deal all around. Would I rent to another
>> lesbian niece with a cat? Not likely. Does that make me prejudiced?
> Nahh,
>> just snakebit and twice shy.
>> Jim Hupy
>> " Remember in some Muslim countries stealing will get you one less hand
> for
>> the rest of your life."
>> In point of fact, at the time and place where this was instigated in
> Sharia
>> law, removal of the right hand sentenced the thief to slow death by
>> starvation.
>>
>> --johnny
>>
>> 'Less PC, more GMC'
>> --
>> '76 23' transmode Norris upfit
>> Braselton, Ga.
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Re: [GMCnet] Ran into a road block for going to Dothan [message #297998 is a reply to message #297994] |
Thu, 24 March 2016 23:17 |
Steve Jess
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Funny how I get called out as having "implied" that someone is a racist. My message simply asked why he felt it necessary to mention the man's religion.
And of like to note that he hasn't had the stones to answer my question.
> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 19:26:44 -0700
> From: jimkanomata@gmail.com
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Ran into a road block for going to Dothan
>
> I can tell you Bob is not an racist
> Known him and dealt with him for several years.
> A bad apple makes it bad for all of us.
>
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 7:07 PM, D C _Mac_ Macdonald
> wrote:
>
>> In much of the muslim world, the left hand is what is used
>> for wiping one's butt with a stone after defecation! Toilet
>> tissue is apparently an invention of infidels!
>>
>> Tuff luck if your right hand used for eating has been cut off!
>>
>> Mac in OKC
>>
>>
>>> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 13:10:20 -0700
>>> From: jamesh1296@gmail.com
>>> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Ran into a road block for going to Dothan
>>>
>>> Bob, sorry you can't make it to the rally. You have worked very hard
>>> against tall odds, given it a huge effort, and outside forces have
>>> conspired to defeat you. You have my sympathy. Remember the "B" words the
>>> next time you lease your property. "BRUSSELS, BELGIUM, BOSTON, MASS.
>>> BURKA, BOMBERS. But, gee, perhaps maybe I might be a bit cynical. I
>> owned
>>> a rental property and leased it to my lesbian niece. She had a cat. She
>>> was also an employee of my flower shop. Gave her a break on the lease by
>>> letting her live there at 1/2 the going rate for the property. She left
>>> the cat loose in the house while she was at work. It did at least
>>> $25000.00 in damages. Had to remodel the house after I evicted her.
>> Didn't
>>> make any friends with that move, but it was necessary. Never so glad to
>>> sell something in my life. Bad deal all around. Would I rent to another
>>> lesbian niece with a cat? Not likely. Does that make me prejudiced?
>> Nahh,
>>> just snakebit and twice shy.
>>> Jim Hupy
>>> " Remember in some Muslim countries stealing will get you one less hand
>> for
>>> the rest of your life."
>>> In point of fact, at the time and place where this was instigated in
>> Sharia
>>> law, removal of the right hand sentenced the thief to slow death by
>>> starvation.
>>>
>>> --johnny
>>>
>>> 'Less PC, more GMC'
>>> --
>>> '76 23' transmode Norris upfit
>>> Braselton, Ga.
>>
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Re: [GMCnet] Ran into a road block for going to Dothan [message #297999 is a reply to message #297998] |
Thu, 24 March 2016 23:59 |
jimk
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Bob must be busy, if you know the man you will know he respects all people
of any religion or race.
How best to describe who he is dealing with.
I am stopping here, as this is not what the forum is about.
On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 9:17 PM, Steve Jess wrote:
> Funny how I get called out as having "implied" that someone is a racist.
> My message simply asked why he felt it necessary to mention the man's
> religion.
>
> And of like to note that he hasn't had the stones to answer my question.
>
>> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 19:26:44 -0700
>> From: jimkanomata@gmail.com
>> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Ran into a road block for going to Dothan
>>
>> I can tell you Bob is not an racist
>> Known him and dealt with him for several years.
>> A bad apple makes it bad for all of us.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 7:07 PM, D C _Mac_ Macdonald
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In much of the muslim world, the left hand is what is used
>>> for wiping one's butt with a stone after defecation! Toilet
>>> tissue is apparently an invention of infidels!
>>>
>>> Tuff luck if your right hand used for eating has been cut off!
>>>
>>> Mac in OKC
>>>
>>>
>>>> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 13:10:20 -0700
>>>> From: jamesh1296@gmail.com
>>>> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Ran into a road block for going to Dothan
>>>>
>>>> Bob, sorry you can't make it to the rally. You have worked very hard
>>>> against tall odds, given it a huge effort, and outside forces have
>>>> conspired to defeat you. You have my sympathy. Remember the "B"
> words the
>>>> next time you lease your property. "BRUSSELS, BELGIUM, BOSTON, MASS.
>>>> BURKA, BOMBERS. But, gee, perhaps maybe I might be a bit cynical. I
>>> owned
>>>> a rental property and leased it to my lesbian niece. She had a cat.
> She
>>>> was also an employee of my flower shop. Gave her a break on the
> lease by
>>>> letting her live there at 1/2 the going rate for the property. She
> left
>>>> the cat loose in the house while she was at work. It did at least
>>>> $25000.00 in damages. Had to remodel the house after I evicted her.
>>> Didn't
>>>> make any friends with that move, but it was necessary. Never so glad
> to
>>>> sell something in my life. Bad deal all around. Would I rent to
> another
>>>> lesbian niece with a cat? Not likely. Does that make me prejudiced?
>>> Nahh,
>>>> just snakebit and twice shy.
>>>> Jim Hupy
>>>> " Remember in some Muslim countries stealing will get you one less
> hand
>>> for
>>>> the rest of your life."
>>>> In point of fact, at the time and place where this was instigated in
>>> Sharia
>>>> law, removal of the right hand sentenced the thief to slow death by
>>>> starvation.
>>>>
>>>> --johnny
>>>>
>>>> 'Less PC, more GMC'
>>>> --
>>>> '76 23' transmode Norris upfit
>>>> Braselton, Ga.
>>>
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Re: [GMCnet] Ran into a road block for going to Dothan [message #298000 is a reply to message #297949] |
Fri, 25 March 2016 01:52 |
BobDunahugh
Messages: 2465 Registered: October 2010 Location: Cedar Rapids, IA
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I wouldn't have mentioned his religion. But he was the one that used his religion to defend what he did. He made it very clear to the city of Marion Police, building, and fire departments that they had no jurisdiction over him. He would only obey sharia law, and the couron. He refused to appear in our state court. So he lost. County Sheriff department had to literally force him out today. Wasn't pretty. So I don't feel that I was being prejudice to him by mentioning his religion. As that was his major point. His religion. We all have the right to practice as we see fit. And in this case. His laws were in conflict with our city, county, and state laws. I'm looking into court action. Everyone brings peace, and joy to my life. Some coming, some going. Bob Dunahugh
From: yenko108@hotmail.com
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: Ran into a road block for going to Dothan
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 22:55:29 -0500
I rented a warehouse space to a muslim. He stopped paying rent at the end of January. The reason is unbelieveable. Then got that unit in violation of city building, and fire codes. Another unbelievable story. Took him to court. He never showed up. So I won the court case. He then got mad at me because I had paid off the judge. So to get revenge. He took out water, and electrical fixtures. Damaged the heating system. Took down the ceiling grid, and ceiling tile. Removed all my work benches. And I've got 2 dump truck loads of trash to haul out. The police say it's a civil matter. No use in taking him to court. As he has nothing here, or in Seria. I had lost about 6 days of work on the GMC before the court date with him in Feb, and March. Now this. I'm sorry to some of you. But I worked my ass off to go to Dothan. I've been putting in 12 to 14 hrs a day to go. With the garbage he put in there. I have to clean this mess up for the comfort of the great other tenants in the building. Right now I'm mentally broken. On the bright side. Branson is just about 10 weeks later. I need to get a GMC grille to Tom McManus. Anyone coming by Cedar Rapids Iowa on there way to Dothan?
Bob Dunahugh
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