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| [GMCnet] Battery question [message #297280] |
Sun, 13 March 2016 18:37  |
Kingsley Coach
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Netters
There are many things in life I don't understand. One of those things is
batteries.
"group 24 batteries gel filled 12v/ 74 amp hours"
Would these be any good as house batteries? I think I know that 2 6s are
better than 2 12s, but......
Thanks
Mike in NS
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1977 Eleganza II 26-3
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| Re: [GMCnet] Battery question [message #297284 is a reply to message #297280] |
Sun, 13 March 2016 18:57  |
James Hupy
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Hi Michael, you are going to get 17 different correct answers. I
personally like Trojan golf cart batteries. I think the number 105 is the
one that I use. They are 6 volt and are made to deep cycle. That means that
they are ok to discharge a good bit further than standard automotive
batteries. I use 6 volt batteries, use the positive post of one battery,
and the negative post of the other one. Then connect the other remaining
posts together. It will yield 12 volts at nearly twice the ampere rating of
one by itself. 2 batteries suit my needs very well, but your demand for
electrical use will be different than mine. I use Die Hards for my engine
battery, and I use an identical one on the same tray that serves as a boost
battery. I do not have a huge battery cable from the front of the coach to
the house batteries in the generator compartment, but use a 6 gage cable
for charging from the engine alternator. Just what I do.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403
On Mar 13, 2016 4:38 PM, "Kingsley Coach" wrote:
> Netters
>
> There are many things in life I don't understand. One of those things is
> batteries.
>
> "group 24 batteries gel filled 12v/ 74 amp hours"
> Would these be any good as house batteries? I think I know that 2 6s are
> better than 2 12s, but......
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike in NS
>
> --
> Michael Beaton
> 1977 Kingsley 26-11
> 1977 Eleganza II 26-3
> Antigonish, NS
>
> Life is too short to hold a grudge; slash some tires and call it even !
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| Re: [GMCnet] Battery question [message #297286 is a reply to message #297280] |
Sun, 13 March 2016 19:29 |
jhbridges
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The other end of the spectrum. I don't dry camp. One show I sometimes work has no electric hookup, I run the genset. Consequently, my house battery needs only to keep the icebox cold when I stop for a meal or fuel, and while I set the coach up before I get power on it or the genset running. So, for me, the cheapest 12V I can find. I've a solar charger which keeps it charged when the coach is parked at home.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Battery question [message #297293 is a reply to message #297286] |
Sun, 13 March 2016 19:57 |
Hal StClair
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Like Jim says, you'll get lots of different correct answers. Most of the 12 volt batteries that claim to be 'deep cycle' are really a compromise and and really don't compete well with a true deep cycle like the T105's or L16's or other true deep cycle batteries. You will notice that deep cycle 6 volts normally are taller to accommodate the garbage that will collect at the bottom of the cells over time and eventually will short out and kill the battery. You'll want to be careful of the T125's and T145's as they have added capacity at the expense of longevity by adding thinner plates. There are 6 volt AGM's available if you really want to go there but any time you get away from wet cells you'll pay the price-almost twice the cost.
One way to use wet cells would be to use an semi automatic watering kit with vents. I use those on my L16's in a nearly closed bay in my SOB. I currently use a pair of US Battery 2200 series 6 volts that are 236 AH in the GMC.
To each their own for sure.
Hal
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1977 Royale 101586, Diesel powered,
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| Re: [GMCnet] Battery question [message #297298 is a reply to message #297284] |
Sun, 13 March 2016 20:24 |
Kingsley Coach
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Gentlemen
I had 2 6's but at least one froze over the winter. I haven't pulled
the tray out yet to count, but I can guess. I thought this would be a
shortcut to decent capacity at a fraction of the cost as they were a
private sale.
I've read your comments and as Lorraine suggested, perhaps I'll just do
it right and save myself some aggravation down the line.
Thanks all
Mike in NS
On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 8:57 PM, James Hupy wrote:
> Hi Michael, you are going to get 17 different correct answers. I
> personally like Trojan golf cart batteries. I think the number 105 is the
> one that I use. They are 6 volt and are made to deep cycle. That means that
> they are ok to discharge a good bit further than standard automotive
> batteries. I use 6 volt batteries, use the positive post of one battery,
> and the negative post of the other one. Then connect the other remaining
> posts together. It will yield 12 volts at nearly twice the ampere rating of
> one by itself. 2 batteries suit my needs very well, but your demand for
> electrical use will be different than mine. I use Die Hards for my engine
> battery, and I use an identical one on the same tray that serves as a boost
> battery. I do not have a huge battery cable from the front of the coach to
> the house batteries in the generator compartment, but use a 6 gage cable
> for charging from the engine alternator. Just what I do.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Or
> 78 GMC ROYALE 403
> On Mar 13, 2016 4:38 PM, "Kingsley Coach" wrote:
>
>> Netters
>>
>> There are many things in life I don't understand. One of those things is
>> batteries.
>>
>> "group 24 batteries gel filled 12v/ 74 amp hours"
>> Would these be any good as house batteries? I think I know that 2 6s are
>> better than 2 12s, but......
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Mike in NS
>>
>> --
>> Michael Beaton
>> 1977 Kingsley 26-11
>> 1977 Eleganza II 26-3
>> Antigonish, NS
>>
>> Life is too short to hold a grudge; slash some tires and call it even !
>> _______________________________________________
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1977 Eleganza II 26-3
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| Re: [GMCnet] Battery question [message #297312 is a reply to message #297298] |
Mon, 14 March 2016 00:34 |
jimk
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Mike,
If the battery was fully charges, there is considerably less chance to
freeze up.
On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 6:24 PM, Kingsley Coach
wrote:
> Gentlemen
>
> I had 2 6's but at least one froze over the winter. I haven't pulled
> the tray out yet to count, but I can guess. I thought this would be a
> shortcut to decent capacity at a fraction of the cost as they were a
> private sale.
> I've read your comments and as Lorraine suggested, perhaps I'll just do
> it right and save myself some aggravation down the line.
>
>
> Thanks all
>
> Mike in NS
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 8:57 PM, James Hupy wrote:
>
>> Hi Michael, you are going to get 17 different correct answers. I
>> personally like Trojan golf cart batteries. I think the number 105 is the
>> one that I use. They are 6 volt and are made to deep cycle. That means
> that
>> they are ok to discharge a good bit further than standard automotive
>> batteries. I use 6 volt batteries, use the positive post of one battery,
>> and the negative post of the other one. Then connect the other remaining
>> posts together. It will yield 12 volts at nearly twice the ampere rating
> of
>> one by itself. 2 batteries suit my needs very well, but your demand for
>> electrical use will be different than mine. I use Die Hards for my engine
>> battery, and I use an identical one on the same tray that serves as a
> boost
>> battery. I do not have a huge battery cable from the front of the coach
> to
>> the house batteries in the generator compartment, but use a 6 gage cable
>> for charging from the engine alternator. Just what I do.
>> Jim Hupy
>> Salem, Or
>> 78 GMC ROYALE 403
>> On Mar 13, 2016 4:38 PM, "Kingsley Coach" wrote:
>>
>>> Netters
>>>
>>> There are many things in life I don't understand. One of those things
> is
>>> batteries.
>>>
>>> "group 24 batteries gel filled 12v/ 74 amp hours"
>>> Would these be any good as house batteries? I think I know that 2 6s
> are
>>> better than 2 12s, but......
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Mike in NS
>>>
>>> --
>>> Michael Beaton
>>> 1977 Kingsley 26-11
>>> 1977 Eleganza II 26-3
>>> Antigonish, NS
>>>
>>> Life is too short to hold a grudge; slash some tires and call it even !
>>> _______________________________________________
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> Michael Beaton
> 1977 Kingsley 26-11
> 1977 Eleganza II 26-3
> Antigonish, NS
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| Re: [GMCnet] Battery question [message #297313 is a reply to message #297312] |
Mon, 14 March 2016 06:47 |
Kingsley Coach
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Jim
I'll make a note for 'Future' use !
Mike in NS
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 2:34 AM, Jim Kanomata wrote:
> Mike,
> If the battery was fully charges, there is considerably less chance to
> freeze up.
>
> On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 6:24 PM, Kingsley Coach
> wrote:
>
>> Gentlemen
>>
>> I had 2 6's but at least one froze over the winter. I haven't pulled
>> the tray out yet to count, but I can guess. I thought this would be a
>> shortcut to decent capacity at a fraction of the cost as they were a
>> private sale.
>> I've read your comments and as Lorraine suggested, perhaps I'll just
> do
>> it right and save myself some aggravation down the line.
>>
>>
>> Thanks all
>>
>> Mike in NS
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 8:57 PM, James Hupy
> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Michael, you are going to get 17 different correct answers. I
>>> personally like Trojan golf cart batteries. I think the number 105 is
> the
>>> one that I use. They are 6 volt and are made to deep cycle. That means
>> that
>>> they are ok to discharge a good bit further than standard automotive
>>> batteries. I use 6 volt batteries, use the positive post of one
> battery,
>>> and the negative post of the other one. Then connect the other
> remaining
>>> posts together. It will yield 12 volts at nearly twice the ampere
> rating
>> of
>>> one by itself. 2 batteries suit my needs very well, but your demand for
>>> electrical use will be different than mine. I use Die Hards for my
> engine
>>> battery, and I use an identical one on the same tray that serves as a
>> boost
>>> battery. I do not have a huge battery cable from the front of the coach
>> to
>>> the house batteries in the generator compartment, but use a 6 gage
> cable
>>> for charging from the engine alternator. Just what I do.
>>> Jim Hupy
>>> Salem, Or
>>> 78 GMC ROYALE 403
>>> On Mar 13, 2016 4:38 PM, "Kingsley Coach"
> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Netters
>>>>
>>>> There are many things in life I don't understand. One of those things
>> is
>>>> batteries.
>>>>
>>>> "group 24 batteries gel filled 12v/ 74 amp hours"
>>>> Would these be any good as house batteries? I think I know that 2 6s
>> are
>>>> better than 2 12s, but......
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Mike in NS
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Michael Beaton
>>>> 1977 Kingsley 26-11
>>>> 1977 Eleganza II 26-3
>>>> Antigonish, NS
>>>>
>>>> Life is too short to hold a grudge; slash some tires and call it
> even !
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> GMCnet mailing list
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Michael Beaton
>> 1977 Kingsley 26-11
>> 1977 Eleganza II 26-3
>> Antigonish, NS
>>
>> Life is too short to hold a grudge; slash some tires and call it even !
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1977 Eleganza II 26-3
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| Re: [GMCnet] Battery question [message #297401 is a reply to message #297280] |
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Kingsley Coach wrote on Sun, 13 March 2016 19:37Netters
There are many things in life I don't understand. One of those things is
batteries.
"group 24 batteries gel filled 12v/ 74 amp hours"
Would these be any good as house batteries? I think I know that 2 6s are better than 2 12s, but......
Thanks
Mike in NS
--
Michael Beaton
1977 Kingsley 26-11
1977 Eleganza II 26-3
Antigonish, NS
Mike,
As was said, you got lots of correct answers.
One of those will be fine if you don't really need a house bank. Just don't use two.
Even in Nova Scotia, if you had a battery freeze, it is toast.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: [GMCnet] Battery question [message #297454 is a reply to message #297280] |
Wed, 16 March 2016 09:08 |
JohnL455
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To store any vehicle, the negative cables should be disconnected as soon as parked. This prevents a slow parasitic death and eliminates electrical fire potential. I learned this fire marshal code from doing car show events for the Big 3. If the car is not being used in a reveal segment the battery must be disconnected indoors. And no vehicle to have more than 1/4 tank fuel. I have followed this with vehicle storage strictly and with monthly trickle/desulfination charger use I right now have a still usable OEM Delco group 78 from 1996 where the Delco eye is still green and functioning. Also an occasional fresh water rinse especially on top terminal batteries can cut down on parasitic conduction drains.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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