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[GMCnet] Restoration. Hinging the floor engine lid to the front. [message #297189] Sat, 12 March 2016 10:51 Go to next message
BobDunahugh is currently offline  BobDunahugh   United States
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I'm sure it's been done. Then use hinges that the hinge pins can be pulled if ever required for total removal. Has anyone run into a downside to doing this? Wish I'd stop thinking of more things to do.Bob Dunahugh
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Re: [GMCnet] Restoration. Hinging the floor engine lid to the front. [message #297194 is a reply to message #297189] Sat, 12 March 2016 11:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bullitthead is currently offline  Bullitthead   United States
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If you work the angles, mounting points, and length of some gas struts, you don't even need the hinges. Gravity and compression from the struts will keep the lid jammed in the front crevice. Then just disconnect the struts to pull the hatch completely out of the way if needed.

Terry Kelpien ASE Master Technician 73 Glacier 260 Smithfield, Va.
Re: [GMCnet] Restoration. Hinging the floor engine lid to the front. [message #297201 is a reply to message #297189] Sat, 12 March 2016 12:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Yep,

I vaguely remember seeing photos of this on the GMC Photo site one day when I was surfing.

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From: Bob Dunahugh

I'm sure it's been done. Then use hinges that the hinge pins can be pulled if ever required for total removal. Has anyone run into
a downside to doing this? Wish I'd stop thinking of more things to do.Bob Dunahugh


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Re: [GMCnet] Restoration. Hinging the floor engine lid to the front. [message #297208 is a reply to message #297201] Sat, 12 March 2016 13:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bdub is currently offline  bdub   United States
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Jim Wagner's yer guy.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/interior-updates-to-our-76-gb/p24304-hatch-prop.html


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I vaguely remember seeing photos of this on the GMC Photo site one day when I was surfing.

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From: Bob Dunahugh

I'm sure it's been done. Then use hinges that the hinge pins can be pulled if ever required for total removal. Has anyone run into
a downside to doing this? Wish I'd stop thinking of more things to do.Bob Dunahugh



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Re: [GMCnet] Restoration. Hinging the floor engine lid to the front. [message #297210 is a reply to message #297208] Sat, 12 March 2016 15:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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I love the way this place works!

Head and shoulders above "two heads are better than one!" ;-)

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From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Billy Massey

Jim Wagner's yer guy.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/interior-updates-to-our-76-gb/p24304-hatch-prop.html


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Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 12:49 PM

I vaguely remember seeing photos of this on the GMC Photo site one day when I was surfing.

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From: Bob Dunahugh

I'm sure it's been done. Then use hinges that the hinge pins can be pulled if ever required for total removal. Has anyone run into
a downside to doing this? Wish I'd stop thinking of more things to do.Bob Dunahugh


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Regards, Rob M. (USAussie) The Pedantic Mechanic Sydney, Australia '75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428 '75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
Re: [GMCnet] Restoration. Hinging the floor engine lid to the front. [message #297225 is a reply to message #297208] Sat, 12 March 2016 19:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thesmith is currently offline  thesmith   United States
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Perhaps round the corners on the brackets to avoid scrapes and cuts.


Pete


bdub wrote on Sat, 12 March 2016 14:55

Jim Wagner's yer guy.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/interior-updates-to-our-76-gb/p24304-hatch-prop.html


-----Original Message-----
From: Behalf Of Robert Mueller
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 12:49 PM

I vaguely remember seeing photos of this on the GMC Photo site one day when I was surfing.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Dunahugh

I'm sure it's been done. Then use hinges that the hinge pins can be pulled if ever required for total removal. Has anyone run into
a downside to doing this? Wish I'd stop thinking of more things to do.Bob Dunahugh



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Re: [GMCnet] Restoration. Hinging the floor engine lid to the front. [message #297232 is a reply to message #297189] Sat, 12 March 2016 22:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tilerpep is currently offline  Tilerpep   United States
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My PO used the carpet as a hinge. Bad part is I can not "pull the pin" and totally remove it.

1975 Glenbrook, 1978 Royale rear bath Raleigh, NC
Re: [GMCnet] Restoration. Hinging the floor engine lid to the front. [message #297236 is a reply to message #297189] Sat, 12 March 2016 23:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bob,

Many years ago I installed a pair of residential door butts at the front of
my hatch. I replaced the pins with 3/16" or so rods bent into "L" shape.
Originally I installed screws in such a position that when the foot of the
L was turned in the gravity-preferred direction, the pins were locked in.
I've since removed those screws since the pins stay in very nicely anyway.
Aside from during engine changes, I can't remember ever removing the
hatch. I do wish I had lift cylinders on there, but not enough to bother
replacing the 3' piece of rigid conduit that lays on top of the engine
until I need it as a prop -- for the past 100k miles..

Ken H.


On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 11:51 AM, Bob Dunahugh wrote:

> I'm sure it's been done. Then use hinges that the hinge pins can be pulled
> if ever required for total removal. Has anyone run into a downside to
> doing this? Wish I'd stop thinking of more things to do.Bob Dunahugh
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Re: [GMCnet] Restoration. Hinging the floor engine lid to the front. [message #297239 is a reply to message #297189] Sat, 12 March 2016 22:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
BobDunahugh is currently offline  BobDunahugh   United States
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Thanks all for the feedback all. This site is just great. Bob Dunahugh

I'm sure it's been done. Then use hinges that the hinge pins can be pulled if ever required for total removal. Has anyone run into a downside to doing this? Wish I'd stop thinking of more things to do.Bob Dunahugh
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Re: [GMCnet] Restoration. Hinging the floor engine lid to the front. [message #297295 is a reply to message #297189] Sun, 13 March 2016 20:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Don't think I'd care for it.. hinged up covers a lot of stuff I might wanna look at when I test drive with it off. It's fairly easy to set aside the infrequent times I have it open. It would make checking the trans fluid marginally quicker, but the time consuming part of mine is removing the shelves before I can open it. If I slip it back and inch or two, it leans nicely against the dash anyway.

--johnny


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Re: [GMCnet] Restoration. Hinging the floor engine lid to the front. [message #297307 is a reply to message #297189] Sun, 13 March 2016 21:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I cut the hatch on the Royale front-to-back 7" in on each side, and piano-hinged the joints. To check the tranny dipstick, I can just slide the carpet aside and flip the driver side flap. To remove the whole hatch, I can flip both edges to tri-fold it. Note that I did the cuts on a 45 degree bevel with the downside of the center panel having the long points. I figured the lower bevel would support the joint when bearing weight. So far, it's worked well, but I don't like the spine of the piano hinge sticking up so I am going to route the panel and reverse the hinge.

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Re: [GMCnet] Restoration. Hinging the floor engine lid to the front. [message #297346 is a reply to message #297189] Mon, 14 March 2016 16:41 Go to previous message
Jim Wagner is currently offline  Jim Wagner   United States
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Bob, You don't need a hinge. The front of the hatch locks in and the struts hold it tight. You can pop the clip on the strut out to release the strut then just lift the hatch out. I have a piece of 1x6 that I lay across the opening to lean on if you want to do any work to the motor.

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I'm sure it's been done. Then use hinges that the hinge pins can be pulled if ever required for total removal. Has anyone run into a downside to doing this? Wish I'd stop thinking of more things to do.Bob Dunahugh
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