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ernie is currently offline  ernie   United States
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My 1975 Eleganza II is pointed nose-first into our RV port without access from the front. I need to have it pulled
Out so that it can be towed to a shop. Can that be done? I have both AAA and Good Sam towing insurance. Which should I use?
Ernie garcia


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Re: Pull GMC backward? [message #297023 is a reply to message #297022] Wed, 09 March 2016 16:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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At minimum you would have to disconnect the transmission completely. Someone will have more info, but as a rule the GMC cannot be towed backward without serious damage occurring

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Re: [GMCnet] Pull GMC backward? [message #297025 is a reply to message #297023] Wed, 09 March 2016 16:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jeremy,
> At minimum you would have to disconnect the transmission completely. Someone will have more info, but as a rule the GMC cannot be towed backward
> without serious damage occurring

what happens when one rolls backwards on a hill? Is that a no-no as well?

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Re: Pull GMC backward? [message #297029 is a reply to message #297022] Wed, 09 March 2016 17:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dennis S is currently offline  Dennis S   United States
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Ernie

Do you just want to pull it out of a carport and then hook to the front?
If so -- I have pulled mine out of a storage spot with my Expedition and then pulled it forward into a nearby spot.
Just put the transmission in neutral and release the parking brake.
If the ground is flat and you go slow they don't build any momentum to roll.

Dennis

ernie wrote on Wed, 09 March 2016 16:24
My 1975 Eleganza II is pointed nose-first into our RV port without access from the front. I need to have it pulled
Out so that it can be towed to a shop. Can that be done? I have both AAA and Good Sam towing insurance. Which should I use?
Ernie garcia



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Re: Pull GMC backward? [message #297030 is a reply to message #297022] Wed, 09 March 2016 17:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Neal Krisher is currently offline  Neal Krisher   United States
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Put it in Neutral and have it pulled backwards so that it can be towed from the front.

"Life has no instruction manual. Parts and labor can be impossible to find. Many go down the road with parts that are in need of service. A breakdown is eventual." 1975 26', TZE165V100301 Project/Driver 1977 26' TZE167V100439 Parts unit
Re: Pull GMC backward? [message #297031 is a reply to message #297022] Wed, 09 March 2016 17:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ernie wrote on Wed, 09 March 2016 17:24
My 1975 Eleganza II is pointed nose-first into our RV port without access from the front. I need to have it pulled
Out so that it can be towed to a shop. Can that be done? I have both AAA and Good Sam towing insurance. Which should I use?
Ernie garcia

Ernie,

The stories you have heard were correct, but there were two different issues.

The poor fellow whose coach got forcefully dragged backwards because someone didn't want to wait was in park. It tore out the parking block and the teeth it engages and the damaged the final drive. All because it was in PARK....

The other was one that took damage to a hit to a rear wheel, so the towing company dragged it backwards at road speed for a goodly number of miles. That just fried the transmission.

So, If you can take it out of park and not drag it a long ways at high speed, you should be all right.

As to who to pick? I can't (Oh - Boy can I not !!) recommend a company.
A 26' coach will actually fit on a larger roll-back if you put the back at max height.
Next choice is a 4500# wheel lift at the front.
If you can't find one of those, Keep looking.
Tell the company what you need and if they show up with the wrong rig, send them home.

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] Pull GMC backward? [message #297032 is a reply to message #297025] Wed, 09 March 2016 17:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Emery Stora is currently offline  Emery Stora   United States
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I think that it should have said “do not tow the GMC backwards for any significant distance as it will harm the transmission.”

I don’t think there would be any harm pulling it out of the garage in neutral just enough to allow the tow driver to tow it from the front.

About 5 years a tow driver towed Bill Brown’s GMC many miles backwards and it did ruin the transmission.

As Peer points out GMCs often will roll backward unpowered down a hill will no damage.

Emery Stora
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Frederick, CO

> On Mar 9, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Peer Oliver Schmidt GMC wrote:
>
> Jeremy,
>> At minimum you would have to disconnect the transmission completely. Someone will have more info, but as a rule the GMC cannot be towed backward
>> without serious damage occurring
>
> what happens when one rolls backwards on a hill? Is that a no-no as well?
>
> --
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Re: [GMCnet] Pull GMC backward? [message #297033 is a reply to message #297022] Wed, 09 March 2016 17:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you have a towd rigged up for it, put the coach in neutral and just use
that. It won't hurt a thing. Heck, I might even use the towd to push it
to the garage.

bdub


On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 4:24 PM, ernie garcia wrote:

> My 1975 Eleganza II is pointed nose-first into our RV port without access
> from the front. I need to have it pulled
> Out so that it can be towed to a shop. Can that be done? I have both AAA
> and Good Sam towing insurance. Which should I use?
>
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Re: Pull GMC backward? [message #297035 is a reply to message #297022] Wed, 09 March 2016 17:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I stand corrected. Wasn't really thinking about the fact that it was such a short distance. Sorry guys...

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Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
Re: [GMCnet] Pull GMC backward? [message #297036 is a reply to message #297033] Wed, 09 March 2016 17:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jeez!

With all due respect after reading these responses I wonder why I bother spending the time to compose detailed instructions like
this!

http://www.gmceast.com/technical/Mueller_GMC-Towing-Guide.pdf

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Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic


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Re: [GMCnet] Pull GMC backward? [message #297038 is a reply to message #297036] Wed, 09 March 2016 17:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ernie,
Just pop the gear into neutral and have it pulled out to the street then
have the front wheels lifted and pulled.

On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Robert Mueller
wrote:

> Jeez!
>
> With all due respect after reading these responses I wonder why I bother
> spending the time to compose detailed instructions like
> this!
>
> http://www.gmceast.com/technical/Mueller_GMC-Towing-Guide.pdf
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
>
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Re: Pull GMC backward? [message #297042 is a reply to message #297022] Wed, 09 March 2016 18:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks guys.. this is an amazing group!

ernie garcia
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Re: [GMCnet] Pull GMC backward? [message #297045 is a reply to message #297036] Wed, 09 March 2016 19:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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USAussie wrote on Wed, 09 March 2016 18:37
Jeez!

With all due respect after reading these responses I wonder why I bother spending the time to compose detailed instructions like
this!

http://www.gmceast.com/technical/Mueller_GMC-Towing-Guide.pdf

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic

Rob,

You have overlooked the Google/Wikipedia aspect.
Nobody expects to have to look any thing up any more.

Then there are the Face Book headlines: Man does something unexpected with an egg!! (He painted it.)

We recently heard of an owner that found 3k$us when his coach was dragged backwards.
I hope this owner can put the transmission in neutral.

Our best guess is that he was asking if it could even be rolled backward, but even that was a suspect situation as the circumstance was not explained at all.

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] Pull GMC backward? [message #297046 is a reply to message #297045] Wed, 09 March 2016 19:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey guys, take it easy on Ernie. He is one of the GMC CASCADER EASTSIDERS.
His coach doesn't see as much use as it used to.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403
On Mar 9, 2016 5:08 PM, "Matt Colie" wrote:

> USAussie wrote on Wed, 09 March 2016 18:37
>> Jeez!
>>
>> With all due respect after reading these responses I wonder why I bother
> spending the time to compose detailed instructions like
>> this!
>>
>> http://www.gmceast.com/technical/Mueller_GMC-Towing-Guide.pdf
>>
>> Regards,
>> Rob M.
>> The Pedantic Mechanic
>
> Rob,
>
> You have overlooked the Google/Wikipedia aspect.
> Nobody expects to have to look any thing up any more.
>
> Then there are the Face Book headlines: Man does something unexpected
> with an egg!! (He painted it.)
>
> We recently heard of an owner that found 3k$us when his coach was dragged
> backwards.
> I hope this owner can put the transmission in neutral.
>
> Our best guess is that he was asking if it could even be rolled backward,
> but even that was a suspect situation as the circumstance was not explained
> at all.
>
> Matt
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Re: [GMCnet] Pull GMC backward? [message #297059 is a reply to message #297046] Thu, 10 March 2016 03:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jim,

I wasn't as we say Downunder "havin a go" at Ernie, I was merely expressing my frustration for putting together a detailed procedure
on towing and NOBODY mentioning it to help him!

Matt,

Googling "Towing a 1975 GMC Motorhome" resulted in the following:

About 42,400 results (0.20 seconds)
Search Results

[GMCnet] Towing a GMC Motorhome - Google Groups
https://groups.google.com/d/topic/gmcnet-archive/37zKwOVSeZM
[GMCnet] Towing a GMC Motorhome, jerry, 8/28/15 10:38 AM. Any advice on towing (23 foot 1973) ..... 1975 GMC Avion (Under
Reconstruction) Michigan

buygmc - gmc motorhome information
gmcmotorhome.info/buygmc.html
http://www.gmcmotorhome.com/faq/models.html Models, Floor Plans and Décor- FAQ). where all the ... What about when towing a second
vehicle. Gas mileage.

The GMC MotorHome - Generations of GM
https://history.gmheritagecenter.com/wiki/index.../The_GMC_MotorHo...
... transmission and the 3.07 differential from the Toronado trailer towing option. ... By this time the GMC Motor Home lengths had
been identified as 23-foot and ..... The 1975 model year indeed brought many changes to the GMC MotorHome.

Car Lust: The GMC Motorhome (1973-1978 Model Years)
www.carlustblog.com/.../the-gmc-motorhome-1973-1978-under-const.ht...
Sep 9, 2011 - The styling of the GMC Motorhome was and is elegant and futuristic. I think it has ... No, but it sure can tow one.
.... 1975 GMC AVION owner.

AND TA DA!

GMC Towing Instructions
www.gmceast.com/technical/Mueller_GMC-Towing-Guide.pdf
Manual X-7525 in your hand when you call the tow service provider. 7. Advise them that the GMC. Motorhome MUST be towed from the
front or put on a vehicle.

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic

PS - I'm getting out of here for five months, maybe it will help me with an additude adjustment!

-----Original Message-----
From: James Hupy

Hey guys, take it easy on Ernie. He is one of the GMC CASCADER EASTSIDERS.
His coach doesn't see as much use as it used to.
Jim Hupy


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Re: [GMCnet] Pull GMC backward? [message #297102 is a reply to message #297033] Thu, 10 March 2016 17:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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bdub wrote on Wed, 09 March 2016 18:15
If you have a towd rigged up for it, put the coach in neutral and just use
that. It won't hurt a thing. Heck, I might even use the towd to push it
to the garage.

bdub



We got stuck on a hill once. Elise went back and put the Toad in "L" and pushed us up the rough spots.


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Re: Pull GMC backward? [message #297104 is a reply to message #297022] Thu, 10 March 2016 18:17 Go to previous message
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You're going to need a bigger towd to shove that Bluebird up a hill, Stick. Something like a Peterbilt 389 might do it.

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