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Tue, 23 February 2016 15:35  |
dr.diesel
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So I bought the Applied 455 Intake gasket set with the stainless block off plates. All I received is the two gaskets and stainless inserts, no end gaskets and no basic instructions. As I've done about a zillion intake gaskets before I didn't think much of it till I read a few messages specifically mentioning them, then thought well heck I didn't get any, ha ha.
I'm assuming standard procedure?
- Thoroughly clean
- Use something like Permatex high tack sealant to glue gaskets to heads
- Use bead of RTV for end gaskets
- Try hard to not drop zillion pound intake during placement
- Torque bolt in proper order to 25lbs (just guessing need to look up torque)
- Celebrate with cold beer
Anything I'm missing, or special for the stainless inserts?
Many thanks
77 Kingsley
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| Re: Applied Intake Gasket thoughts [message #296043 is a reply to message #296042] |
Tue, 23 February 2016 15:38  |
jhbridges
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Why not call Applied and ask? It's a free call.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
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| Re: Applied Intake Gasket thoughts [message #296048 is a reply to message #296043] |
Tue, 23 February 2016 16:04 |
dr.diesel
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Johnny Bridges wrote on Tue, 23 February 2016 16:38Why not call Applied and ask? It's a free call.
--johnny
30 years of experience getting the run around and disconnected!
I wrote them an email earlier today, so far no response.
77 Kingsley
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| Re: [GMCnet] Applied Intake Gasket thoughts [message #296052 is a reply to message #296048] |
Tue, 23 February 2016 17:53 |
jimk
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We acquire that gasket kit from Dick Patterson.
Dick and I have done enough engines to know that the rubber/plastic seal
tends to walk out , so a clean surface and a engine RTV works best.
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Andy wrote:
> Johnny Bridges wrote on Tue, 23 February 2016 16:38
>> Why not call Applied and ask? It's a free call.
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>> --johnny
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> 30 years of experience getting the run around and disconnected!
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> I wrote them an email earlier today, so far no response.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Applied Intake Gasket thoughts [message #296075 is a reply to message #296042] |
Wed, 24 February 2016 02:42 |
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USAussie
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Andy,
That kit is supplied to Applied by Dick Patterson. Below you will find a link to the page on his website (Springfield Ignition)
about the kit. Note the last sentence:
Installation instructions included. Permanent leak free and simple to install. Hundreds in use.
Give Dick a call or send him an email and I'm sure he'll get a copy of the installation instructions to you.
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Andy
So I bought the Applied 455 Intake gasket set with the stainless block off plates. All I received is the two gaskets and stainless
inserts, no end gaskets and no basic instructions. As I've done about a zillion intake gaskets before I didn't think much of it
till I read a few messages specifically mentioning them, then thought well heck I didn't get any, ha ha.
I'm assuming standard procedure?
- Thoroughly clean
- Use something like Permatex high tack sealant to glue gaskets to heads
- Use bead of RTV for end gaskets
- Try hard to not drop zillion pound intake during placement
- Torque bolt in proper order to 25lbs (just guessing need to look up torque)
- Celebrate with cold beer
Anything I'm missing, or special for the stainless inserts?
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| Re: [GMCnet] Applied Intake Gasket thoughts [message #296077 is a reply to message #296075] |
Wed, 24 February 2016 02:51 |
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USAussie
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Andy,
Oops!
http://www.springfield-ignition.com/gmc-motorhome/block-off-kits/
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Mueller
Andy,
That kit is supplied to Applied by Dick Patterson. Below you will find a link to the page on his website (Springfield Ignition)
about the kit. Note the last sentence:
Installation instructions included. Permanent leak free and simple to install. Hundreds in use.
Give Dick a call or send him an email and I'm sure he'll get a copy of the installation instructions to you.
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
-----Original Message-----
From: Andy
So I bought the Applied 455 Intake gasket set with the stainless block off plates. All I received is the two gaskets and stainless
inserts, no end gaskets and no basic instructions. As I've done about a zillion intake gaskets before I didn't think much of it
till I read a few messages specifically mentioning them, then thought well heck I didn't get any, ha ha.
I'm assuming standard procedure?
- Thoroughly clean
- Use something like Permatex high tack sealant to glue gaskets to heads
- Use bead of RTV for end gaskets
- Try hard to not drop zillion pound intake during placement
- Torque bolt in proper order to 25lbs (just guessing need to look up torque)
- Celebrate with cold beer
Anything I'm missing, or special for the stainless inserts?
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: Applied Intake Gasket thoughts [message #296079 is a reply to message #296042] |
Wed, 24 February 2016 04:58 |
dr.diesel
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Guys, thanks to all, I should be good to go now. 
Significant coach progress this winter:
- Manny 1-Ton Front end
- Headers, dual free flowing mufflers
- Intake X-over blocked
- Rebuilt carb, complete engine tune-up
- New dash insert with GPS speedo, Tach, coolant temp, volt, tranny and engine oil temp
- Tranny and final drive aluminum pans
That's all for this winter, can't wait for spring events to start!
77 Kingsley
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| Re: Applied Intake Gasket thoughts [message #296084 is a reply to message #296081] |
Wed, 24 February 2016 08:11 |
dr.diesel
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gbarrow wrote on Wed, 24 February 2016 08:45Andy,
Can you please post some info about the new dash insert with GPS speedo etc.
Will do, as soon as they are installed. How about a teaser pict? As soon as I'm done with the engine work, finishing the dash insert is next. Decided to go with GPS so I didn't have to fuss with the speedo gear change when/if I change the final drive.
77 Kingsley
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| Re: Applied Intake Gasket thoughts [message #296094 is a reply to message #296079] |
Wed, 24 February 2016 09:02 |
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Matt Colie
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Andy,
Welcome to the group, family, cult, asylum....
Sorry, I did not notice when your arrived. I would have welcomed you then.
It sounds like you have things well in hand, but personally, I wonder if you actually did call Applied. I have never been on hold there for more than mere moments.
(I did have someone (not Nick) accidentally hang up on me once, but those things happen. - Have a sense of humor.)
Oh, and the simple rule for GMC parts is:
Order from Applied or one of the other good suppliers
UNLESS:
You are sure you can get the right part and need it RIGHT NOW.
You are on the road and there is no place to ship it too.... (Such as my fan clutch this year and I still got a part I don't like.)
The shipping will cost Way more than the part. (This one can be a snare as it assumes the part you can get is correct.)
Next, please go to Control Panel/Account Settings and build a sigfile. Use a real name (you can change your screen name too) so we know who you are when we meet (a very good chance there). A bit about the coach - year, upfitter/model and major mods and a geographic reference because those that read this as e-mail don't get to see the header.
There are rallies all around you during the better weather. The fall GMCMI will only be about a day away in Ohio. Get there if you possibly can. If you can't get time off, come for a few days of weekend. We will be glad to meet you.
Speaking of which, you are now part of an amazing community. Wonderful, supportive and helping (especially our resident Ornamental) people. The only way I know to really annoy them is to ignore the advice you get here. We do have a few original owners and many multi-decade and a few million miles of experience to back things up. The only community I know of that is like this is the watermen of my world and for that reason, I like to welcome new owners here much as a new owner or vessel is welcomed there. So,
May the Good Lord bless this coach and all those that set forth within here.
Welcome Andy
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
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| Re: Applied Intake Gasket thoughts [message #296099 is a reply to message #296042] |
Wed, 24 February 2016 09:50 |
George Beckman
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dr.diesel wrote on Tue, 23 February 2016 13:35So I bought the Applied 455 Intake gasket set with the stainless block off plates. All I received is the two gaskets and stainless inserts, no end gaskets and no basic instructions. As I've done about a zillion intake gaskets before I didn't think much of it till I read a few messages specifically mentioning them, then thought well heck I didn't get any, ha ha.
I'm assuming standard procedure?
- Try hard to not drop zillion pound intake during placement
Anything I'm missing, or special for the stainless inserts?
Many thanks
I would add, when putting it on. I learned this from Dick Paterson. Make two studs. Cut heads off bolts and saw a screw driver slot in the ends. Put them on one side spaced nicely. Now you can put that heavy thing on the guide bolts like a hinge and then swing it down and into place. Put some other bolts in a bit and then use a screw drive to take the studs out.
Lowering it straight down is not easy. I have an aluminum and had a hard time getting it down straight even with it being much lighter. Dick's technique will make it like closing a door... a heavy door but a door.
'74 Eleganza, SE, Howell + EBL
Best Wishes,
George
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| Re: [GMCnet] Applied Intake Gasket thoughts [message #296100 is a reply to message #296099] |
Wed, 24 February 2016 10:05 |
Ken Henderson
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One more manifold installation hint: Make you a handle. I take a piece of
PVC pipe, or stick of wood, or similar, and drill two holes in it. Put 3"+
long bolts through those holes into diagonally opposite carburetor flange
bolt holes. Lifting with that handle, which is near the manifold's center
of gravity, makes maneuvering to fit George's (and mine and many others')
studs MUCH easier.
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL,
Manny Brakes & 1-Ton, etc., etc.
www.gmcwipersetc.com
On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 10:50 AM, George Beckman wrote:
> dr.diesel wrote on Tue, 23 February 2016 13:35
>> So I bought the Applied 455 Intake gasket set with the stainless block
> off plates. All I received is the two gaskets and stainless inserts, no
>> end gaskets and no basic instructions. As I've done about a zillion
> intake gaskets before I didn't think much of it till I read a few messages
>> specifically mentioning them, then thought well heck I didn't get any,
> ha ha.
>>
>> I'm assuming standard procedure?
>>
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>> - Try hard to not drop zillion pound intake during placement
>>
>>
>> Anything I'm missing, or special for the stainless inserts?
>>
>> Many thanks
>
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> I would add, when putting it on. I learned this from Dick Paterson. Make
> two studs. Cut heads off bolts and saw a screw driver slot in the ends. Put
> them on one side spaced nicely. Now you can put that heavy thing on the
> guide bolts like a hinge and then swing it down and into place. Put some
> other
> bolts in a bit and then use a screw drive to take the studs out.
>
> Lowering it straight down is not easy. I have an aluminum and had a hard
> time getting it down straight even with it being much lighter. Dick's
> technique will make it like closing a door... a heavy door but a door.
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Applied Intake Gasket thoughts [message #296123 is a reply to message #296101] |
Wed, 24 February 2016 17:02 |
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Who is Allied, must be a copy cat of Applied.
I do not monitor orders as Nick and Gary handle orders and I just BS on the
phone and email, plus handle our Reps on Air Filter Housings.
On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 8:31 AM, Andy wrote:
> Guys I appreciate all the hints, but I've been forced to plan B. By the
> time I was done pressure spraying the intake last night I didn't notice the
> cracks in the dark, :cry: , plus the intake is warped by 0.020", with the
> middle exhaust x-over portion protruding outward.
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> So, Allied just got another $850, ha ha.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Applied Intake Gasket thoughts [message #296129 is a reply to message #296123] |
Wed, 24 February 2016 18:39 |
dr.diesel
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jimk wrote on Wed, 24 February 2016 18:02Who is Allied, must be a copy cat of Applied.
Ha, Sorry, Applied, can't get the Electronics place out of my head.
Double Whammy, AL intakes are 4-6 weeks out so I canceled the order, on to plan C, whatever that is.
77 Kingsley
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| Re: [GMCnet] Applied Intake Gasket thoughts [message #296132 is a reply to message #296100] |
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Ken Henderson wrote on Wed, 24 February 2016 11:05One more manifold installation hint: Make you a handle. I take a piece of PVC pipe, or stick of wood, or similar, and drill two holes in it. Put 3"+ long bolts through those holes into diagonally opposite carburetor flange bolt holes. Lifting with that handle, which is near the manifold's center of gravity, makes maneuvering to fit George's (and mine and many others') studs MUCH easier.
Ken H.
I Like It.
With luck, I don't have to any time soon (hope-hope), but I was thinking about "¿How could I put a handle on it?"
Well, I didn't finish the thought.
Like they say, what to know the easy way? Ask a lazy man, and engineer or KenH.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: [GMCnet] Applied Intake Gasket thoughts [message #296134 is a reply to message #296132] |
Wed, 24 February 2016 19:14 |
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A mid length crescent wrench makes a nice handle.
And -- if you bridge across the front seats with a bar/2x4 and then use a come-a-long you can gently lower that heavy manifold down without getting hurt. I anchor the other end of the come-a-long to a 2x4 screwed to the floor or bridged across the cabinets near the floor.
Dennis
Matt Colie wrote on Wed, 24 February 2016 19:05Ken Henderson wrote on Wed, 24 February 2016 11:05One more manifold installation hint: Make you a handle. I take a piece of PVC pipe, or stick of wood, or similar, and drill two holes in it. Put 3"+ long bolts through those holes into diagonally opposite carburetor flange bolt holes. Lifting with that handle, which is near the manifold's center of gravity, makes maneuvering to fit George's (and mine and many others') studs MUCH easier.
Ken H.
I Like It.
With luck, I don't have to any time soon (hope-hope), but I was thinking about "¿How could I put a handle on it?"
Well, I didn't finish the thought.
Like they say, what to know the easy way? Ask a lazy man, and engineer or KenH.
Matt
Dennis S
73 Painted Desert 230
Memphis TN Metro
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, plus the intake is warped by 0.020", with the middle exhaust x-over portion protruding outward.