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| Body Side Moldings - Replacement [message #295623] |
Tue, 16 February 2016 18:34  |
George B.
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Do to a long story I will not repeat here, my 1973 coach does not have body side moldings on it (any more) they are lost. I understand replacing them with a 3 inch wide flat strip of aluminum works. Counter sink the screw holes etc. to mount in place of the original. The coach was repainted and one side shows the original orange paint that was under the original moldings. The other side had the moldings removed before painting so it does not look as bad. Thus I need the 3 inch wide or more to cover up the old paint.
Questions:
1. What thickness should the strip be?
2. I notice there are many kinds of aluminum stock available so which type of aluminum should I use.?
3. I can think of three finish options, have the aluminum polished and install to look like a chrome strip, paint it, or polished or painted and then apply the stick on black rubber molding the GMC suppliers sell?
Thank you in advance for suggestion, opinions or alternatives.
"Lost my strips in Las Vegas"
George Butts
Las Vegas Nevada
73 "Custom 26' Q" & 76 23' Birchaven
71 Honda 600 Coupe & 01 Tracker Toads
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| Re: [GMCnet] Body Side Moldings - Replacement [message #295624 is a reply to message #295623] |
Tue, 16 February 2016 19:27  |
jimk
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George,
I think 3" is a little too wide, isn't it?
On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 4:34 PM, GEORGE BUTTS wrote:
> Do to a long story I will not repeat here, my 1973 coach does not have
> body side moldings on it (any more) they are lost. I understand replacing
> them
> with a 3 inch wide flat strip of aluminum works. Counter sink the screw
> holes etc. to mount in place of the original. The coach was repainted and
> one side shows the original orange paint that was under the original
> moldings. The other side had the moldings removed before painting so it
> does not
> look as bad. Thus I need the 3 inch wide or more to cover up the old paint.
>
> Questions:
>
> 1. What thickness should the strip be?
> 2. I notice there are many kinds of aluminum stock available so which type
> of aluminum should I use.?
> 3. I can think of three finish options, have the aluminum polished and
> install to look like a chrome strip, paint it, or polished or painted and
> then
> apply the stick on black rubber molding the GMC suppliers sell?
>
> Thank you in advance for suggestion, opinions or alternatives.
>
> "Lost my strips in Las Vegas"
> --
> George Butts
> Las Vegas Nevada
> 73 "Custom 26' Q" & 76 23' Birchaven
> 71 Honda 600 Coupe & 01 Tracker Toads
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Body Side Moldings - Replacement [message #295625 is a reply to message #295624] |
Tue, 16 February 2016 19:42 |
powwerjon
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George,
3” is too wide, I think it was 2” wide and 3/16” thick. Use a real good sealant when putting it together. I would rivets that the heads have been counter sinked and then filled with body filler to make everything smooth. Be sure that any adhesive that you use is paintable.
J.R. Wright
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78 Buskirk 30' Stretch
1975 Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan, on location in Tucson
> On Feb 16, 2016, at 6:27 PM, Jim Kanomata wrote:
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> George,
> I think 3" is a little too wide, isn't it?
>
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 4:34 PM, GEORGE BUTTS wrote:
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>> Do to a long story I will not repeat here, my 1973 coach does not have
>> body side moldings on it (any more) they are lost. I understand replacing
>> them
>> with a 3 inch wide flat strip of aluminum works. Counter sink the screw
>> holes etc. to mount in place of the original. The coach was repainted and
>> one side shows the original orange paint that was under the original
>> moldings. The other side had the moldings removed before painting so it
>> does not
>> look as bad. Thus I need the 3 inch wide or more to cover up the old paint.
>>
>> Questions:
>>
>> 1. What thickness should the strip be?
>> 2. I notice there are many kinds of aluminum stock available so which type
>> of aluminum should I use.?
>> 3. I can think of three finish options, have the aluminum polished and
>> install to look like a chrome strip, paint it, or polished or painted and
>> then
>> apply the stick on black rubber molding the GMC suppliers sell?
>>
>> Thank you in advance for suggestion, opinions or alternatives.
>>
>> "Lost my strips in Las Vegas"
>> --
>> George Butts
>> Las Vegas Nevada
>> 73 "Custom 26' Q" & 76 23' Birchaven
>> 71 Honda 600 Coupe & 01 Tracker Toads
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Body Side Moldings - Replacement [message #295634 is a reply to message #295624] |
Wed, 17 February 2016 04:24 |
Mr ERFisher
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Also ask jim b. He does this all the time ?
On Tuesday, February 16, 2016, Bob Dunahugh wrote:
> Been there. Done that. The 78 Royale convertible had it's original black,
> with chrome on each side. I wanted to keep it stock. So I spent a lot of
> time, effort, and money to get it back to stock.. Only to find out on our
> first trip. That some gas overfill at the gas station distorted the plastic
> chrome trim instantly. I happened to be talking to Jim K at Applied on the
> phone right after I got the trim on. That's when he told me that I wouldn't
> be happy with it. ( Dam. I hate it when he's right.) So this time on this
> 78 Royale. The Mouse House. I saved a lot of time, effort, and money. And
> just got the black precut trim from Jim K. I'd strongly suggest you do the
> same. Bob Dunahugh
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| Re: Body Side Moldings - Replacement [message #295682 is a reply to message #295623] |
Thu, 18 February 2016 06:58 |
rcjordan
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Lots of marine rub-rail profiles out there.
SOLD 77 Royale Coachmen Side Dry Bath
76 Birchaven Coachmen Side Wet Bath
76 Eleganza
Elizabeth City, NC
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| Re: [GMCnet] Body Side Moldings - Replacement [message #295720 is a reply to message #295688] |
Thu, 18 February 2016 23:32 |
jimk
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Bill,
Jim B has told us that the one with the chrome trim does not seem to hold
up , so we use the plain Black one.
Doesn't look as good, but in few years out in the sun, it might be worth it.
We will sell the chrome one, but we discuss it with our customers first.
On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 9:00 AM, Bill Wevers wrote:
> I used the self adhesive 2" bodyside molding over the original stainless
> steel.
> Here is an example:
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> http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-1-4-x-32-Universal-Black-Chrome-Body-Side-Molding-/262284738824
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| Re: [GMCnet] Body Side Moldings - Replacement [message #296038 is a reply to message #295624] |
Tue, 23 February 2016 13:29 |
George B.
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I thought 3 inches wide would cover up the old orange paint that now shows with the original early-style wide molding gone. I really do not want to have to do any painting. As I understand it, you attach the aluminum strip and next stick on the body side molding.
jimk wrote on Tue, 16 February 2016 17:27George,
I think 3" is a little too wide, isn't it?
On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 4:34 PM, GEORGE BUTTS wrote:
> Do to a long story I will not repeat here, my 1973 coach does not have
> body side moldings on it (any more) they are lost. I understand replacing
> them
> with a 3 inch wide flat strip of aluminum works. Counter sink the screw
> holes etc. to mount in place of the original. The coach was repainted and
> one side shows the original orange paint that was under the original
> moldings. The other side had the moldings removed before painting so it
> does not
> look as bad. Thus I need the 3 inch wide or more to cover up the old paint.
>
> Questions:
>
> 1. What thickness should the strip be?
> 2. I notice there are many kinds of aluminum stock available so which type
> of aluminum should I use.?
> 3. I can think of three finish options, have the aluminum polished and
> install to look like a chrome strip, paint it, or polished or painted and
> then
> apply the stick on black rubber molding the GMC suppliers sell?
>
> Thank you in advance for suggestion, opinions or alternatives.
>
> "Lost my strips in Las Vegas"
> --
> George Butts
> Las Vegas Nevada
> 73 "Custom 26' Q" & 76 23' Birchaven
> 71 Honda 600 Coupe & 01 Tracker Toads
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Body Side Moldings - Replacement [message #296104 is a reply to message #296038] |
Wed, 24 February 2016 11:56 |
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George,
I have attached pictures of our first coach that we did a frame up restoration. IMHPO the rub rails are a unneeded and useless item out of the past. The coaches look so much better without it, again IMHPO! As stated by others, the latest available materials available for the rub strip are not as durable at the original that was installed by GMC. That said it does take some time and proper installation of the aluminum strip (2” wide X 1/8 thick). If done correctly it blends the strip area so that it is almost invisible in a painted coach. 73 thru very, very, very late 76 coaches had the gap where as the 77 & 78 coaches used an “H” aluminum strip to join the upper and lower body sections. You will have to clean up the area where the strip is going to be installed so that bonding/sealant agent, in this case a paintable seam sealer will stick to both the body and the new strip. This late spring or early summer I will be doing the installation of a aluminum strip to cover the body gap on our 75 Avion. I will do a photo album to capture the installation.
The following pictures show the strip area on our 77 coach which was a 4 color paint with all painted graphics.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/77-gmc-exterior/p37090-mvc-014s1.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/77-gmc-exterior/p37088-mvc-012s1.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/77-gmc-exterior/p37087-mvc-011s1.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/77-gmc-exterior/p37083-mvc-007s1.html
The next picture show a close up of the GMC 4D graphic on the front and rear logo areas of the coach. Each color used on the coach is represented in the Logo.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/topeka-gmc-paint-job/p7828.html
J.R. Wright
GMC GreatLaker
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Tech Editor
78 Buskirk 30' Stretch
75 Avion Under Reconstruction
Michigan, On location in Tucson
> On Feb 23, 2016, at 12:29 PM, GEORGE BUTTS wrote:
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> I thought 3 inches wide would cover up the old orange paint that now shows with the original early-style wide molding gone. I really do not want to
> have to do any painting. As I understand it, you attach the aluminum strip and next stick on the body side molding.
>
>
>
>
> jimk wrote on Tue, 16 February 2016 17:27
>> George,
>> I think 3" is a little too wide, isn't it?
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 4:34 PM, GEORGE BUTTS wrote:
>>
>>> Do to a long story I will not repeat here, my 1973 coach does not have
>>> body side moldings on it (any more) they are lost. I understand replacing
>>> them
>>> with a 3 inch wide flat strip of aluminum works. Counter sink the screw
>>> holes etc. to mount in place of the original. The coach was repainted and
>>> one side shows the original orange paint that was under the original
>>> moldings. The other side had the moldings removed before painting so it
>>> does not
>>> look as bad. Thus I need the 3 inch wide or more to cover up the old paint.
>>>
>>> Questions:
>>>
>>> 1. What thickness should the strip be?
>>> 2. I notice there are many kinds of aluminum stock available so which type
>>> of aluminum should I use.?
>>> 3. I can think of three finish options, have the aluminum polished and
>>> install to look like a chrome strip, paint it, or polished or painted and
>>> then
>>> apply the stick on black rubber molding the GMC suppliers sell?
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance for suggestion, opinions or alternatives.
>>>
>>> "Lost my strips in Las Vegas"
>>> --
>>> George Butts
>>> Las Vegas Nevada
>>> 73 "Custom 26' Q" & 76 23' Birchaven
>>> 71 Honda 600 Coupe & 01 Tracker Toads
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> GMCnet mailing list
>>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>>> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jim Kanomata
>> Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
>> jimk@appliedairfilters.com
>> http://www.appliedgmc.com
>> 1-800-752-7502
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> 71 Honda 600 Coupe & 01 Tracker Toads
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