| GMC'er stranded in Tallahassee area [message #295064] |
Thu, 04 February 2016 18:35  |
mercdave
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I've been following James of "Wanderlust Estates" for some time on You Tube and he posted this video today;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WapzRw5jO8Q
He has been stranded for the last 24 hours in the Tallahassee area and really needs a referral to a local shop or someone with some good electrical troubleshooting skills to help him out. James is not really a big DIY guy so I think his tools are limited.
His email is wanderlustestates at gmail dot com.
He tried to join the forum today but could not make the code generator work.
I'm just one of his followers on You Tube so I thought I would pass this on.
Dave L
Lynnwood, Wa.
1976 GMC 26' Edgemonte Rear Twin
1973 GMC 23' Rear-Ended, Totaled
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| Re: GMC'er stranded in Tallahassee area [message #295067 is a reply to message #295064] |
Thu, 04 February 2016 19:28  |
Adrien G.
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Sent email to him.
Adrien & Jenny Genesoto
75 Glenbrook (26-3) Mods LS3.70 FD / Reaction Sys / 80mm Front&Intermidiate / Hydroboost / 16" Tires / Frame Rebuild / Interior Rebuild
Yuba City,Ca. Text 530-nine-3-three-3-nine-nine-6
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| Re: GMC'er stranded in Tallahassee area [message #295074 is a reply to message #295064] |
Thu, 04 February 2016 19:49 |
JohnL455
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AAA guy pulled the starter to test at AP store instead of metering for crank signal at starter. Backup lights come on when key is turned (to run I presume) which tells me the N saftey is doing it's job but not set right or column rod problem.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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| Re: GMC'er stranded in Tallahassee area [message #295077 is a reply to message #295064] |
Thu, 04 February 2016 19:59 |
Ken Burton
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I watched his youtube video. He could get rid of the advertisement crap and net it out as to what his problem is. The problem with the rear lights is the neutral safety switch is also controls the back up lights. It is mounted on the steering column with two small bolts. Probably 5/16" or 3/8" wrench will do it. Loosen and then rotate the switch slightly to the right and tighten the bolts. That should take care of the problem with the back up lights and probably will allow the the vehicle to start.
If it still does not crank, then he needs to turn the key to the start position and listen to see if the solenoid on the starter clicks. If it clicks then the problem is with the solenoid, bendix gear, or the +12 volts (and ground) going to the starter. He has not stated if he checked the battery cables. He did not state the condition of the bendix gear on the starter when he had it out.
If it does not click then he needs to find out why he is not getting +12 (or ground) to the small wire that energizes the solenoid.
A quick workaround when he remounted the starter would have been to connect about a 3 foot piece of wire to the small terminal on the bendix that energizes the bendix and run it up forward to the area of the isolator. Then with someone sitting in the driver's seat with their foot on the brake, touch the wire to the boost solenoid or the big vehicle + terminal to energize the solenoid directly bypassing all of the coach circuitry.
This really sounds like a poor connection or a mis-adjusted neutral safety switch.
Please feel free to cut and pate this posting into a note and send it to him. Also tell him to look up my phone number on the black list and give me a telephone call.
Ken Burton
Hebron, Indiana
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: GMC'er stranded in Tallahassee area [message #295080 is a reply to message #295077] |
Thu, 04 February 2016 20:34 |
tphipps
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Does he have the Black List? I'm not close, but perhaps I can round up a posse. Group is coming here to solve my brake problem, but we might be able
Change the plan. Phone number is in the Black List.
251 two six three two one eight five.
Tom, MS II
2012 Phoenix Cruiser model 2552
KA4CSG
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| Re: GMC'er stranded in Tallahassee area [message #295082 is a reply to message #295064] |
Thu, 04 February 2016 20:51 |
JohnL455
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Ken, I had posted basicly the same thing on the FB post he put up. I don't think he knows how to troubleshoot with a VOM or he would he running by now.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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| Re: GMC'er stranded in Tallahassee area [message #295093 is a reply to message #295064] |
Thu, 04 February 2016 22:25 |
Adrien G.
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mercdave wrote on Thu, 04 February 2016 16:35I've been following James of "Wanderlust Estates" for some time on You Tube and he posted this video today;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WapzRw5jO8Q
He has been stranded for the last 24 hours in the Tallahassee area and really needs a referral to a local shop or someone with some good electrical troubleshooting skills to help him out. James is not really a big DIY guy so I think his tools are limited.
His email is wanderlustestates at gmail dot com.
He tried to join the forum today but could not make the code generator work.
I'm just one of his followers on You Tube so I thought I would pass this on.
Dave, Do you have James phone # to get in direct touch with him.
Any one know about Dennis & Teresa Schwinn, Panama City, FL, that's not that far away
if still active # eight-five-0-two-five-eight-3-two-5-one.
I hope they it fixed before they get a bitter taste for the coach.
I've see it more then a few times where a non DIY person buys a used vehicle/or and takes off on a trip
no pre-checks but on a wing and a prayer.
By the time the check engine warning sounds off it's too late.
Adrien & Jenny Genesoto
75 Glenbrook (26-3) Mods LS3.70 FD / Reaction Sys / 80mm Front&Intermidiate / Hydroboost / 16" Tires / Frame Rebuild / Interior Rebuild
Yuba City,Ca. Text 530-nine-3-three-3-nine-nine-6
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| Re: GMC'er stranded in Tallahassee area [message #295095 is a reply to message #295082] |
Fri, 05 February 2016 03:00 |
Ken Burton
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JohnL455 wrote on Thu, 04 February 2016 20:51Ken, I had posted basicly the same thing on the FB post he put up. I don't think he knows how to troubleshoot with a VOM or he would he running by now.
That was my thought also and why I did not give him any voltage readings. There are several things that could be wrong and he needs guidance on how to diagnose the problem rather than do random things like pull the starter and take it to Autozone.
I am, like you, guessing that it is a neutral safety switch problem. Hopefully he will call one of us and we can talk him through a logical diagnostic approach. If he calls, the first thing we need to decide is if it is energizing the solenoid or not.
I had a similar problem like this on someone's coach just as we were leaving for a rally. He told me it was doing it intermittently for over a year. After finding nothing wrong with the solenoid and starter, I pulled and cleaned every connection and ran the wire that I described. We now could energize the solenoid if it failed on the road. We went to the rally over 1000 miles away. It never failed again. I need to tell him to remove that wire some day. It has been in there for several years.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: GMC'er stranded in Tallahassee area [message #295107 is a reply to message #295064] |
Fri, 05 February 2016 12:05 |
mercdave
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I received this update from James this morning;
"Thank you Dave. I have a mechanic coming to help me and will show the forum thread to him. I appreciate it."
Hopefully this guy will know how to properly troubleshoot and we will see a resolution. I truly hope James does not get discouraged and will call someone if they hit something that they need help with.
Dave L
Lynnwood, Wa.
1976 GMC 26' Edgemonte Rear Twin
1973 GMC 23' Rear-Ended, Totaled
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| Re: GMC'er stranded in Tallahassee area [message #295115 is a reply to message #295107] |
Fri, 05 February 2016 12:55 |
Carl S.
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mercdave wrote on Fri, 05 February 2016 11:05I received this update from James this morning;
"Thank you Dave. I have a mechanic coming to help me and will show the forum thread to him. I appreciate it."
Hopefully this guy will know how to properly troubleshoot and we will see a resolution. I truly hope James does not get discouraged and will call someone if they hit something that they need help with.
From what I've observed from his blog, James probably can't AFFORD to get discouraged and get rid of his GMC. It's much cheaper to fix up your old stuff than spend a small fortune on new. Our newest vehicle is our 2003 Tracker towd/wife's daily driver. Everything else is anywhere from 27 - 63 years old! 
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: GMC'er stranded in Tallahassee area [message #295154 is a reply to message #295149] |
Sat, 06 February 2016 00:20 |
mercdave
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Sorry folks, I guess I should close the loop here. The You Tube follower that came out to help him had him and back on the road pretty quickly. There were two issues but the no-start was an open circuit between the neutral safety switch and the firewall. The backup light problem was unrelated.
James thanked his watchers and GMCNet for all of the help and admitted that he has some learning to do. I would like to thank all who posted.
Here is a link to his latest video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnWfwQtwF28
Dave L
Lynnwood, Wa.
1976 GMC 26' Edgemonte Rear Twin
1973 GMC 23' Rear-Ended, Totaled
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