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| Re: [GMCnet] Off topic. Caucuses over. Candidates leaving Iowa. Piece on the prairie. [message #294881 is a reply to message #294856] |
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thesmith
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I never understood why people dont vote......if nothing else there is always the lessor of two evils.....
As a recent citizen, I must say the election system here is utterly bizarre......
Pete
jimk wrote on Tue, 02 February 2016 00:30Bob,
I'm glad you went.
We all need to take part even if it seems fruitless.
On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 6:38 PM, Bob Dunahugh wrote:
> Went to the caucus tonight. I'm not big into politics. But these things
> are a lot of fun. Interesting to see the results on CNN.Bob DunahughIowa
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| Re: [GMCnet] Off topic. Caucuses over. Candidates leaving Iowa. Piece on the prairie. [message #294898 is a reply to message #294881] |
Tue, 02 February 2016 11:01 |
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There ARE several valid reasons for not voting.
One says don't vote because it only encourages "THEM."
Another is rooted in religion that states one should never
participate in corruption.
And voting always includes the very definite possibility of
voting a scoundrel (or worse) into office.
And there is always the possibility (probability?) of not
being able to discern the truth about ANY candidate!
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> Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 06:37:12 -0700
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> From: psmith47@nc.rr.com
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Off topic. Caucuses over. Candidates leaving Iowa. Piece on the prairie.
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> I never understood why people dont vote......if nothing else there is always the lessor of two evils.....
>
> As a recent citizen, I must say the election system here is utterly bizarre......
>
>
> Pete
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> jimk wrote on Tue, 02 February 2016 00:30
>> Bob,
>> I'm glad you went.
>> We all need to take part even if it seems fruitless.
>>>> > >
>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 6:38 PM, Bob Dunahugh wrote:
>>
>>> Went to the caucus tonight. I'm not big into politics. But these things
>>> are a lot of fun. Interesting to see the results on CNN.Bob DunahughIowa
>>> _______________________________________________
>> --
>> Jim Kanomata
>> Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
>> jimk@appliedairfilters.com
>> http://www.appliedgmc.com
>> 1-800-752-7502
>
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> No Coach yet but decided it will be wet bath with Sully or 4 bag system.
> perhaps a 1978 Kingsley....
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| Re: [GMCnet] Off topic. Caucuses over. Candidates leaving Iowa. Piece on the prairie. [message #294911 is a reply to message #294898] |
Tue, 02 February 2016 13:41 |
Ken Henderson
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Even if it's a matter of choosing the least bad of a bunch of horrible
choices, we DO need to do that!
And I think that's where we are today.
Ken H.
On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 12:01 PM, D C _Mac_ Macdonald
wrote:
> There ARE several valid reasons for not voting.
>
> One says don't vote because it only encourages "THEM."
>
> Another is rooted in religion that states one should never
> participate in corruption.
>
> And voting always includes the very definite possibility of
> voting a scoundrel (or worse) into office.
>
> And there is always the possibility (probability?) of not
> being able to discern the truth about ANY candidate!
>
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
> ~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
> ~ ~ Since 30 November '53 ~ ~
> ~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
> ~ Member GMCMI and Classics ~
> ~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
> ~ ~ ~ ~ TZE166V101966 ~ ~ ~ ~
> ~ ~ ~ '76 ex-Palm Beach ~ ~ ~
> ~~ k2gkk + hotmail dot com ~~
> ~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
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>> Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 06:37:12 -0700
>> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>> From: psmith47@nc.rr.com
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Off topic. Caucuses over. Candidates leaving
> Iowa. Piece on the prairie.
>>
>> I never understood why people dont vote......if nothing else there is
> always the lessor of two evils.....
>>
>> As a recent citizen, I must say the election system here is utterly
> bizarre......
>>
>>
>> Pete
>>
>>
>> jimk wrote on Tue, 02 February 2016 00:30
>>> Bob,
>>> I'm glad you went.
>>> We all need to take part even if it seems fruitless.
>>>> > > >
>>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 6:38 PM, Bob Dunahugh wrote:
>>>
>>>> Went to the caucus tonight. I'm not big into politics. But these
> things
>>>> are a lot of fun. Interesting to see the results on CNN.Bob
> DunahughIowa
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>> --
>>> Jim Kanomata
>>> Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
>>> jimk@appliedairfilters.com
>>> http://www.appliedgmc.com
>>> 1-800-752-7502
>>
>> --
>> Cary, NC
>>
>> No Coach yet but decided it will be wet bath with Sully or 4 bag system.
>> perhaps a 1978 Kingsley....
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Off topic. Caucuses over. Candidates leaving Iowa. Piece on the prairie. [message #294913 is a reply to message #294911] |
Tue, 02 February 2016 13:49 |
Dolph Santorine
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With a system that punished the best among us when they attempt to run for office and effect change.
I know die hard party loyalists on both side to the the isle who are in utter disbelief that this is the best our nation of over 300,000,000 people can muster.
Dolph
DE N8JPC /AE
Wheeling, West Virginia
1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
1-Ton, Sullybilt Bags, Reaction Arms, 3.70 LSD, Manny Transmission, EV-6010
“The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"
> On Feb 2, 2016, at 2:41 PM, Ken Henderson wrote:
>
> Even if it's a matter of choosing the least bad of a bunch of horrible
> choices, we DO need to do that!
>
> And I think that's where we are today.
>
>
> Ken H.
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> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 12:01 PM, D C _Mac_ Macdonald
> wrote:
>
>> There ARE several valid reasons for not voting.
>>
>> One says don't vote because it only encourages "THEM."
>>
>> Another is rooted in religion that states one should never
>> participate in corruption.
>>
>> And voting always includes the very definite possibility of
>> voting a scoundrel (or worse) into office.
>>
>> And there is always the possibility (probability?) of not
>> being able to discern the truth about ANY candidate!
>>
>> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
>> ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
>> ~ ~ Amateur Radio - K2GKK ~ ~
>> ~ ~ Since 30 November '53 ~ ~
>> ~ ~ USAF and FAA, Retired ~ ~
>> ~ Member GMCMI and Classics ~
>> ~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
>> ~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
>> ~ ~ ~ ~ TZE166V101966 ~ ~ ~ ~
>> ~ ~ ~ '76 ex-Palm Beach ~ ~ ~
>> ~~ k2gkk + hotmail dot com ~~
>> ~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
>> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
>> ______________
>> |[ ]~~~[][ ][]\
>> "--OO--[]---O-"
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>>> Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 06:37:12 -0700
>>> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>>> From: psmith47@nc.rr.com
>>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Off topic. Caucuses over. Candidates leaving
>> Iowa. Piece on the prairie.
>>>
>>> I never understood why people dont vote......if nothing else there is
>> always the lessor of two evils.....
>>>
>>> As a recent citizen, I must say the election system here is utterly
>> bizarre......
>>>
>>>
>>> Pete
>>>
>>>
>>> jimk wrote on Tue, 02 February 2016 00:30
>>>> Bob,
>>>> I'm glad you went.
>>>> We all need to take part even if it seems fruitless.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 6:38 PM, Bob Dunahugh wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Went to the caucus tonight. I'm not big into politics. But these
>> things
>>>> > are a lot of fun. Interesting to see the results on CNN.Bob
>> DunahughIowa
>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>> --
>>>> Jim Kanomata
>>>> Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
>>>> jimk@appliedairfilters.com
>>>> http://www.appliedgmc.com
>>>> 1-800-752-7502
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cary, NC
>>>
>>> No Coach yet but decided it will be wet bath with Sully or 4 bag system.
>>> perhaps a 1978 Kingsley....
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Off topic. Caucuses over. Candidates leaving Iowa. Piece on the prairie. [message #294924 is a reply to message #294919] |
Tue, 02 February 2016 15:32 |
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Johnny Bridges wrote on Tue, 02 February 2016 16:11If you don't vote, you're not allowed to bitch about the results of the election.
--johnny
I agree, though voting for statewide office in AL is kind of pointless. Voting in the Republican primary for statewide office matters, but after that it is essentially pointless.
Can I just say how much I really hate the electoral college and how much I wish we were more open to reviewing our Constitution on occasion? Something like every 12 years, in a Presidential election cycle, we allow a 60% majority of voters to be able to pass Constitutional Amendments, one proposed by each political party with more than 30% representation in either House of Congress.
Yes, that is still a slow process, as amending the Constitution should be, but it would generally allow both parties to put forward one idea 8 times per century. The idea would have to be passed by more than a majority of voters, so obviously nothing that appeals strongly to either extreme wing would survive. But I sure bet we could get a whole lot of middle of the road common sense things that offend both wings into our government charter.
Thanks,
Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
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| Re: [GMCnet] Off topic. Caucuses over. Candidates leaving Iowa.Piece on the prairie. [message #294928 is a reply to message #294919] |
Tue, 02 February 2016 15:34 |
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G'day,
In Australia you can get fined if you don't vote!
http://www.aec.gov.au/elections/australian_electoral_system/electoral_procedures/Electoral_Offences.htm
To answer your next question if you wish to abstain you:
1) Go to the polling place
2) Give your name to the election officials
3) They mark that you have voted on the electoral roster
4) They hand you a ballot
5) You go into the polling booth
6) You fold up the ballot without marking any choices
7) You walk out of the polling booth and put the blank ballot in the ballot box
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Johnny Bridges
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 8:12 AM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Off topic. Caucuses over. Candidates leaving Iowa.Piece on the prairie.
If you don't vote, you're not allowed to bitch about the results of the election.
--johnny
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Braselton, Ga.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Off topic. Caucuses over. Candidates leaving Iowa.Piece on the prairie. [message #294970 is a reply to message #294928] |
Wed, 03 February 2016 07:37 |
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I like it 
Pete
USAussie wrote on Tue, 02 February 2016 16:34G'day,
In Australia you can get fined if you don't vote!
http://www.aec.gov.au/elections/australian_electoral_system/electoral_procedures/Electoral_Offences.htm
To answer your next question if you wish to abstain you:
1) Go to the polling place
2) Give your name to the election officials
3) They mark that you have voted on the electoral roster
4) They hand you a ballot
5) You go into the polling booth
6) You fold up the ballot without marking any choices
7) You walk out of the polling booth and put the blank ballot in the ballot box
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Johnny Bridges
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 8:12 AM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Off topic. Caucuses over. Candidates leaving Iowa.Piece on the prairie.
If you don't vote, you're not allowed to bitch about the results of the election.
--johnny
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'76 23' transmode Norris upfit
Braselton, Ga.
"Sometimes I wonder what tomorrow's gonna bring when I think about my dirty life and times" --Warren Zevon
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| Re: [GMCnet] Off topic. Caucuses over. Candidates leaving Iowa.Piece on the prairie. [message #295015 is a reply to message #294928] |
Thu, 04 February 2016 03:59 |
Ken Burton
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USAussie wrote on Tue, 02 February 2016 15:34G'day,
In Australia you can get fined if you don't vote!
http://www.aec.gov.au/elections/australian_electoral_system/electoral_procedures/Electoral_Offences.htm
To answer your next question if you wish to abstain you:
1) Go to the polling place
2) Give your name to the election officials
3) They mark that you have voted on the electoral roster
4) They hand you a ballot
5) You go into the polling booth
6) You fold up the ballot without marking any choices
7) You walk out of the polling booth and put the blank ballot in the ballot box
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Rob, We have the opposite problem here. There are people that vote 3, 4, or 5 times in every election. Even the dead vote here.
You know the Chicago motto: Vote early and vote often. One year They were handing out stickers at the polls that said "I voted"
I took 5 of them and wore them on my hat for days. No one every asked why I had so many.
The state (Indiana) passed a law saying that you had to show a picture ID to vote. It was appealed all the way to the Supreme Court.
So if you like to vote, come to Chicago, Illinois.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Off topic. Caucuses over. Candidates leaving Iowa.Piece on the prairie. [message #295022 is a reply to message #295015] |
Thu, 04 February 2016 08:25 |
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thesmith
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It would be funny, if it wasn't so sad, that some people actually believe that to be the case.
Its just another, more subtle, version of Jim Crow and some Republicans have even admitted as much....
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/10/25/2835101/gop-asks-party-official-resign-admits-voter-suppresses-democratic-votes/
But we should end this thread.....definitely off topic.
Pete
[/quote]
Rob, We have the opposite problem here. There are people that vote 3, 4, or 5 times in every election. Even the dead vote here.
You know the Chicago motto: Vote early and vote often. One year They were handing out stickers at the polls that said "I voted"
I took 5 of them and wore them on my hat for days. No one every asked why I had so many.
The state (Indiana) passed a law saying that you had to show a picture ID to vote. It was appealed all the way to the Supreme Court.
So if you like to vote, come to Chicago, Illinois.
[/quote]
Cary, NC
1978 Center Kitchen Royale.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Off topic. Caucuses over. Candidates leavingIowa.Piece on the prairie. [message #295037 is a reply to message #295022] |
Thu, 04 February 2016 11:46 |
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IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ENDED BEFORE YOU SENT IN YOUR COMMENT!
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Pete Smith
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 1:25 AM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Off topic. Caucuses over. Candidates leavingIowa.Piece on the prairie.
It would be funny, if it wasn't so sad, that some people actually believe that to be the case.
Its just another, more subtle, version of Jim Crow and some Republicans have even admitted as much....
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/10/25/2835101/gop-asks-party-official-resign-admits-voter-suppresses-democratic-votes/
But we should end this thread.....definitely off topic.
Pete
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| Re: [GMCnet] Off topic. Caucuses over. Candidates leavingIowa.Piece on the prairie. [message #295047 is a reply to message #295037] |
Thu, 04 February 2016 15:08 |
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thesmith
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Indeed. At least one post earlier.....
USAussie wrote on Thu, 04 February 2016 12:46IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ENDED BEFORE YOU SENT IN YOUR COMMENT!
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Pete Smith
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 1:25 AM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Off topic. Caucuses over. Candidates leavingIowa.Piece on the prairie.
It would be funny, if it wasn't so sad, that some people actually believe that to be the case.
Its just another, more subtle, version of Jim Crow and some Republicans have even admitted as much....
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/10/25/2835101/gop-asks-party-official-resign-admits-voter-suppresses-democratic-votes/
But we should end this thread.....definitely off topic.
Pete
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